Why is Europe, specifically eastern europe, so anti-semetic while """"racist"""" America has never had a problem with jews?
is it from old folk tales about jews pinching your toes or some other bullshit?
>be feudal monarchy
>trading is below the nobility
>serfs are tied to land
>cities and towns are rarely independent
and then comes a group of ppl who cannot own land, sticks togather and good with money, while nobody wants to do their business
once industrialization and trading becomes very lucrative theres a situation when its all in hands of these ppl roughly around the 19th century
they want in on that
a side effect of the jews being the traders and looked down class of society they often needed education to get by so they become administrators, lawyers, doctors and various intellectual professions which put a spotlight on them
thus making it easy to point fingers at them and basicly be jelous of their wealth
america never had this problem because it didnt exist during feudal ages so society was shaped differently
>>2550807
>while """"racist"""" America has never had a problem with jews
lol since when?
All these Breitbar news crowds now in power are antisemitic to the max
Because as far as Americans were concerned, Jews were just another breed of European "undesirables", along with the Irish, Slavs, Italians, etc. And just like those groups, Jews eventually got lumped in under the banner of being white along with the anglos and germanic people.
Most of the pre-existing bigotry that existed throughout Europe about Jews as outsiders or child-killing boogeymen didn't make it across the ocean (or died out within a couple generations when it did), so Jewish folk ended up being nothing more than a variety of emigrant that was more or less assimilated in time.
>>2550807
>while """"racist"""" America has never had a problem with jews
Kek, try living near Brooklyn or Lakewood, NJ and tell me their aren't anti semites.
>>2550940
>>2550979
While OP probably went too far in saying America has "never had a problem with jews" (I mean for fuck's sake we don't even need to argue about today, just like at any American city c. 1895), I think we can still agree popular antisemitism is dramatically less pronounced in the USA than it is in a lot of places throughout (particularly eastern) Europe.
>>2550940
If this isn't bait kys
Jews didn't own the most powerful propaganda machine ever invented in the media and movie industries back then. The only image one could have of a Jew was to actually know a Jew, then they would instantly become anti Semites.
>>2550931
There is also the factor of Jews being literate and having a unified code of law (Jewish law) that was enforceable by the communities (at the time Jews had a kind of autonomy and their own court). So if a Jewish trader from medieval France wanted to send produce to a Egypt he would contact a Jewish trader in Alexandria, they would make the contract in Hebrew and if problems arose he could submit a complaint against the Egyptian to a respected Rabbinical court in lets say Safed, they would recieve the defense letter, deliberate the claim according to the Jewish law and the Egyptian Jewish community would enforce it. So Jewish law served as international trade law for several centuries and if you study it you will be surprised how much of it are commercial issues.
Later on the Venetians and even later than that Templares and others joined in and had used their influence with the Pope to fuck up the competition.
>>2551008
>t. eastern european
>>2550979
yeah, I know very well there are people who dont like jews, but in America, theres never been some segregationist law against jews specifcally (other than uncle marty isnt allowed in the country club) or history of genocidal pogroms against them
>>2551017
Almost nobody spoke Hebrew in the Rabbinical era, anon. It was something like Latin was for the Jewish communities. Even a lot of prominent Medieval Jewish works of theology, like all of what the Rambam produced, were in local languages (Arabic in the Rambam's case).
To suggest a pair of Jewish merchants would correspond in Hebrew is absurd.
I'm not going to venture on an opinion, but I did notice a distinct anti-jewish sentiment in Russian lit. They're always characterized as shifty, greedy, & money-lenders sucking the blood out of the poor russians.
>>2550807
>America has never had a problem with jews?
Completely and totally wrong
>>2551107
Back before the Nazis took the crown, Tsarist Russia was the stereotypical antisemitic regime, and not without cause. Russians had a very long history of acting poorly towards Jews, even by the rest of 19th century Europe's standards - Jews were disallowed from living near the cities, and you could never go more than a few years before a pogrom (which comes from the Russian word gromit', to thrash) shocked the rest of Europe with its absurd brutality.
It likely had something to do with a combination of the fact that Jewish people were a more sizable minority in the Russian Empire than elsewhere and the particular brand of authoritarianism practiced by the tsardom.
>>2551152
on the opposite side of that, Didnt the Austro-Hungarian Empire have really laxed views on jews to where jews were treated equally?
Because I heard something about American Jews actually wanting to side with Germany in WW1 for this reason. To fight the anti jewish Russians.
>>2550807
>has never had a problem with jews
??? American anti-semitism only died down after the Holocaust and even then it took a few decades.
>>2551184
I don't know about AH, but Prussia (and by extent, Germany) was one of the few countries in Europe to actively welcome Jews and give them a solid place in society during the 19th century. A lot of German jews voluntarily enlisted into the Reichswehr and many of them were decorated only to be rounded up and killed a few short decades later (though some were let go if they were REALLY decorated or knew Nazi mucky mucks personally from the war).
>>2551184
I don't know enough about Austria-Hungary to comment for sure, but it doesn't surprise me that Jews were largely uninterested in fighting for Russia in the first world war. Nicholas II was rabidly antisemitic, and the frailty of his reign only increased hid desire to pawn the blame off onto traditional scapegoats.
Nicholas' secret police are most likely the ones responsible for creating and disseminating the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and the Tsar himself was known to read excerpts aloud to his children.
>>2551061
>Europeans are very accepting of different people as long as the stranger integrates within the host culture.
Explain the muslims then.
>>2550807
made me think
>>2550807
there's loads of people in America that hate jews
but Jewish practices and American practices are basically the same shit so there's a kindred spirit there
>>2551292
I remember one time we had more jews than Israel
>>2551152
>Tsarist Russia was the stereotypical antisemitic regime
And before them the Byzantines.
>>2551327
Nah, Spain is the intermediary between Russia and Byzantium.
>>2551327
no before then the Spanish
then it was the Byzantines
and before them the Romans
then the Babylonians
then the Egyptians
>>2550807
because americans aren't proper christians
>>2551270
You are mentally inept, Muslim don't integrate and aggressively try to indoctrinate and control the host populations.
>>2550807
Because America was literally founded on philosemitism. The fucking Pilgrims had Christian zionism as one of their tenets.
>>2551327
apple doesn't fall far from the tree, etc
>>2551075
>Hebrew persevered through the ages as the main language for written purposes by all Jewish communities around the world for a large range of uses—not only liturgy, but also poetry, philosophy, science and medicine, commerce, daily correspondence and contracts. There have been, of course, many deviations from this generalization such as Bar Kokhba's letters to his lieutenants, which were mostly in Aramaic,[39] and Maimonides' writings, which were mostly in Arabic;[40] but overall, Hebrew did not cease to be used for such purposes. This meant not only that well-educated Jews in all parts of the world could correspond in a mutually intelligible language, and that books and legal documents published or written in any part of the world could be read by Jews in all other parts, but that an educated Jew could travel and converse with Jews in distant places, just as priests and other educated Christians could converse in Latin. For example, Rabbi Avraham Danzig wrote the Chayei Adam in Hebrew, as opposed to Yiddish, as a guide to Halacha for the "average 17-year old" (Ibid. Introduction 1). Similarly, the Chofetz Chaim, Rabbi Yisrael Meir Kagan’s purpose in writing the Mishna Berurah was to "produce a work that could be studied daily so that Jews might know the proper procedures to follow minute by minute". The work was nevertheless written in Talmudic Hebrew and Aramaic, since, "the ordinary Jew [of Eastern Europe] of a century ago, was fluent enough in this idiom to be able to follow the Mishna Berurah without any trouble."[41]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Hebrew
Sorry for quoting wiki but it's kind of common knowledge. Hebrew was a compulsory subject of any Jewish education because you can't read the scripture, Mishna and Talmud without it. There are thousands of letters and correspondence between traders (who were not just anybody but the elite) and community leaders. There is a whole body of work in Hebrew.
>>2550807
The root of antisemitism is simple:
Jews were the first religion which allowed its followers to borrow others money, and then have them return it at a later date with some % profit depending on the timeframe. All other major religions prohibited this. Other than that, in many eastern euro countries the rulers considered it "unhonorable" to handle their money, they wanted to be noble warrior-kings (especially prevalent in poland) so they hired money specialists to handle money - Jews. Once this dynamic was established, the rulers were able to blame any money issues on jews. This became a cultural norm, that if you have financial problems its because of jews. Thus the especially prevalent antisemitism over here.
Other than that there is some factual relevance to the antisemitism - most major, old banking companies ewere established by jews because of what i mentioned first. Thus to some degree banks fucked people over as they do even now.
Any pre-existing antisemitism was amplified by both communism and nazism which ran through the region.
America never had this issue as it was established a secular country, people could handle money right from the start.
>>2550807
>""""racist"""" America has never had a problem with jews
You now know there was backlash against the song God Bless America because it was written by a Jew.