God tier >Minoaboo >Grecoindianboo >Renaissanceboo

lol the Renaissance is the shittest period in Western history. The entire philosophy behind it is completely pathetic.

>>2550618
You fell for the thread literally designed to cause arguments

Crucify yourself

>>2550622
Joke's on you, arguments is what I'm here for. The fuck you even think this board is for?

>>2550611
You put the same option in Good and Bottom tho

>>2550618
Philosophy is a meme overrated field.

>>2550628
Fine then. Which arguments behind the Renaissance do you find to be pathetic? That we should use our fucking heads and think?

>>2550628
For the greatest minds of our generation to use all the world's knowledge available at our fingertips to re-analyze the history of human presence on Earth and reach new hitherto impossible understandings of our existence.

You fucking mong

>>2550611
Findiesiecleboo here. Where do I fit?

>>2550611
>Byzantineboo
Why are there so many Byzaboos on this board? Is it because it's the less well-known retarded brother of the real Rome?

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>>2550635
Except that's not even close to the philosophy behind the Renaissance. The philosophy behind the Renaissance is that we should throw away everything that defines the West and start cosplaying as ancient Romans, because muh shitalian heritage wewuz Caesars n shiet.

>>2550649
Your attempts at trolling are really weak. Come on Anon. It's not that difficult to properly imitate some butthurt Christfag.

>>2550648

Something something Christianity

>>2550654
I accept your surrender despite your pathetic attempt at saving face.

>>2550657
Truly magnanimous

>God tier
>>Renaissanceboo

*tips laurels*

Shit thread and op is a faggot
Sage

>>2550648
Muh greece was so relevant historically they deserve more than being so irrelevant now, turks don't deserve to inhabit such a butifel country also muh constantinople
>>2550611
>Sovietboo
It's called tankie friend. And yes, imo the dissolution of the Soviet Union was a mistake but the fall of communism wasn't.

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>>2550611
>no medievalboo
mfw

>>2550611
But we're all weeaboos anon

>>2550634
this
FUCK SOCRATF AND FUCK SMART PEOPLE

>>2550611
>>Grecoindianboo
That is a thing? Count me in, then.

>>2550669
>It's called tankie friend
t. Leninboo

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>>2550649
Back to your mudhut, snownigger.

>muh shitalian heritage wewuz Caesars n shiet

Where is/was the Vatican based again? Who created ROMAN Catholicism?

>>2550611
>Grecoindianboo

Yeah, why enjoy well-documented, historically relevant Greeks when you can masturbate over a few ruins and unproven theories over how the Greek-Indian master race taught Indians how to make Buddhas.

>>2550715
France did.

Celtaboo, vikingaboo and mediterraneanboo here. Literally the two polar opposites of old barbarianism and modern refinement, both wondrous exampels of which to enjoy the aestethics. Fight me.

>>2550730
Kill yourself.

French were barbarian niggers during the Middle Ages. They don't have any philosopher as great as Thomas Aquinas.

>>2550738
lmao, look up where Thomas Aquinas studied and did all his work Luigi.

Hint: it wasn't fucking shitaly

>>2550738
Dude, Thomas Aquinas is the poor man's Peter Abelard, and he studied and wrote at the University of Paris.

Sorry but medieval Italy was a backwater shithole, France was where it was at.

>>2550611
>>AustriaHungaryboo
Cuck tier

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You forgot to add Veniceboo to God tier

S E R E N I S S I M A

>>2550742
>>2550750
Doesn't change that the fact that the three most important philosophers of the Middle Ages weren't frogs:

>John Duns
>William of Ockham
>Thomas Aquinas

Paris was richer and more developed at the time, so that's where some of the scholars went to study. Doesn't mean shit.

>>2550611
The celts aren't that bad. They're rather interesting for a bronze age and Iron Age civilization.

>>2550757
This

>>2550765
>the fact that France was the heart of all Western culture and science as well as the richest and most developed country where Italian niggers had to immigrate to in order to acquire some knowledge doesn't mean shit

lmao

>>2550765
Peter Abelard is by far the most important medieval philosopher, and there are dozens of other French ones on the same level as the ones you listed.

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>>2550775
>richest and most developed country

Just Paris you faggot. The rest of France was an irrelevant shithole. The Italian city-states were way more wealthy and developed than the rest of Europe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_city-states

>Between the 12th and 13th centuries, Italy was vastly different from feudal Europe north of the Alps. The Peninsula was a melange of political and cultural elements, not a unified state.

>By the 13th century, northern and central Italy had become the most literate society in the world. More than one third of the male population could read in the vernacular (an unprecedented rate since the decline of the Western Roman Empire), as could a small but significant proportion of women.

>It is estimated that the per capita income of northern Italy nearly tripled from the 11th century to the 15th century. This was a highly mobile, demographically expanding society, fueled by the rapidly expanding Renaissance commerce.

>In the 14th century, just as the Italian Renaissance was beginning, Italy was the economic capital of Western Europe

>>2550791
Italy only became relevant once France was taken down by the Hundred Years War and the Plague.

And what did shitalians do with their half hour of relevance? Create an "intellectual" movement based entirely on being buttblasted at France and which set back scientific progress by 300 years. Thank God France eclipsed Italy again in the early 1600s and we returned to the path of progress.

>>2550801
>The renaissance setback scientific progress by 300 years
An I reading this correctly?

>>2550805
Yes?

>there are people on /his/ who still don't know this

>>2550801
>set back scientific progress by 300 years

Are you really this fucking retarded? There's a very little amount of medieval European scientists. The Renaissance from 1450-1600 completely eclipses this pathetic list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medieval_European_scientists

Notice that like almost half of them are mudslimes and there are much less figures from France than from Italy.

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>>2550816
>>2550801

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>>2550634
You're a small fry.

>>2550818
>this level of pop history retardedness

The entire foundation of modern physics and mathematics dates from the 14th century. Everything that Galileo wrote about physics was discovered at that time.

Meanwhile Renaissance "scientists" did nothing except translate ancient books and reject all medieval advancements because they dared contradict Aristotle. This period of reactionary obscurantism only ended when Galileo rediscovered medieval science, and people like Descartes and Francis Bacon reformulated medieval philosophy.

>>2550818
Can you even name one relevant Renaissance scientist?

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>>2550842
Leonardo da Vinci

>>2550840
>The entire foundation of modern physics and mathematics dates from the 14th century

Yes. Close to the time of the Renaissance. What about the rest of the Middle Ages that didn't produce anything of relevance?

>>2550854
The 14th century in France (and England) is the Middle Ages and has nothing to do with the Italian Renaissance.

>>2550840
>Galileo rediscovered Medieval science.
>Scientists rejected findings because they contradicted Aristoteles.

Excuse me, what? Would you kindly explain to me how, say, the basics of our understanding of pressure fit within a Artistotelian framework (Torricelli)?

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>>2550868
>ignoring the Italian figures from the Late Middle Ages

Why are you so biased you frog nigger?

>Constantinus Africanus
>Mondino de Liuzzi
>Guido da Vigevano
>Trotula
>Rogerius
>Giovanni Dondi dell'Orologio
>Jacopo Dondi dell'Orologio
>Jordanus de Nemore
>Theodoric Borgognoni
>William of Saliceto
>Guido of Arezzo
>Leonardo Fibonacci
>Dante Alighieri
>Thomas Aquinas

Where's ameriboo
Where's israeliboo
Where's plain weeb

>>2550872
What are you even trying to say? Aristotlean thermodynamics are completely wrong and were disproved in the 17th century, after the Renaissance had ended. Torricelli also lived in the 17th century.

>>2550901
>I know how to copypaste a bunch of random names
That's nice.

>>2550986
>butthurt because you can't list even 1/3 of that for France

muh Peter Abelard lmao

>>2551003
I'm pretty sure he would be able to list a dozen random French names m8.

Castillianboo>everything else

>>2551036
These aren't random names I listed. They are taken from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medieval_European_scientists and I added some other figures along with them that I consider important. What's the point of listing some faggot irrelevant monk?

>>2551050
Nobody cares about your phonebook of shitalian literally whos m8.

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>>2551078
Keep being buttdevastated, frog. Italy BTFOs France at accomplishments per capita since France was always the most populous country of Western Europe.

>>2551109
>France was always the most populous country of Western Europe
That's because shitaly was never a country lmao

>>2551109
I think you should be a little more grateful to France for bringing you civilization and creating your country.

>>2551128
That doesn't matter. The Italian peninsula is a real geographic location.

>>2551130
Everyone agrees that the unification was a mistake. Italian history past that point is nothing but shame. Fuck France.

>>2550611
What about Dominaboo (Late Roman Empire-philes for you barbarians)?

>>2551147
The point is Italy was almost as populated as France throughout history, and yet according to your own graph is barely half as relevant.

>>2551147
Italian history at any point in time is nothing but shame m8.

>>2550611
No
>incaboo
>mayaboo
>aztecboo
>iroquoisboo
>puebloboo
>tlingitboo

shame on you

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>>2551163
http://www.medievalages.net/2013/10/medieval-europe-population-and-demography/

>France 1340 AD: 19 million
>Italy 1340 AD: 10 million
>France 1450 AD: 12 million
>Italy 1450 AD: 7.3 million

You will never get close to the Med master race. Forget it. You're just a pseudo-Latin barbarian.

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>>2551109
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA fuck I hadn't looked at the pic, you actually shooped it to make Italy look less pathetic

Now that's just sad

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>>2551181
oh shit nigger

>>2551181
I didn't shoop anything. I saved this pic from /pol/. What if it's yours that's shooped?

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>>2551195
I have the book you double nigger.

In any case, an Italian was butthurt and insecure enough to actually shoop this in an effort to make Italy seem less irrelevant.

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>>2550757
>S E R E N I S S I M A

>>2551216
Italy is not irrelevant even if we take this one as fact. It's still inside the European Core.

Show the map distributing the figures by region now. It's probably different from mine.

>>2551225
Nope those are the same. You don't really think a lazy Luigi would have gone through the trouble of shooping that too do you.

>>2551245
Show me.

Those could be just two different editions of the book. Italy is not the only thing that's different. Belgium is above Spain in mine.

>>2550611
AustriaHungaryboo is below naziboo

>>2551254

It's not two different editions you knob, those are the exact same scan but for the shoop:
>>2551109
>>2551181

>>2551273
And where's the rest of the scan of the other one?

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>>2551288
I already told you the other pages are the same as in the shooped collage you posted.

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>>2550611
Where do Bavariaboos stand in the rankings?

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>>2550611
So many wrong things in this post.
I think I'm gonna go back to my Greek literature book.
Greece>>>AustriaHungary

>>2551295
>>2551288
Wait no that's another shoop made to troll frogs.

>>2550611
>Byzaboo
>Bottom of the Barrel
Why? They survived longer than the actual Roman Empire, made sure Christianity survived in the east, and protected Islam from expanding into Europe for centuries. The Patriarch of Rome's treachery is the reason why Europe they fell.

>>2551295
Can you just fucking post the map of the figures from the pdf version of the book to compare already? Why would someone shoop that? Seems stupid. Putting Belgium above Spain and augmenting Italy's accomplishments for no reason?

>>2551317
being a byzaboo on 4chan is pleb tier because it's mainstream. It's babby's first esothic empire of admiration

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>>2551322
Fuck's sake, happy?

Augmenting Italy is pretty fucking obvious. No clue why Luigi switched Belgium and Spain though, maybe in a feeble attempt at plausible deniability or something.

>>2551298

fornicating with a heifer

All -boos are fine. Enjoy whatever you like.

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>>2551363
Alright so, 1400-1600 looks the same, but the rest is clearly different. There are almost no figures from 1600-1800 compared to the other one. Anyone who has done some basic research of that period knows this is bullshit. Italy produced quite a few important figures during the Age of Enlightenment and stuff:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intellectuals_of_the_Enlightenment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian_scientists

Case closed. They're different versions.

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>>2551383
This is unironically the only good response in this thread. Fuck all of you for even suggesting in jest that people having a favourite historical civilisation are plebs.

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>tfw Israeliboo

Where am I?

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>>2551425
This is now a Manachem Begin thread

>>2551394
They're exactly the same except for your pathetic shoop you desperate faggot. Why do you insist on dragging out your humiliation like this, I'm starting to get contact embarrassment.

>>2551394
lol Italy was an irrelevant piece of shit during the Enlightenment, and you posted the same maps he did.

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>>2551442
They are not. I'll compare them side by side for you to see. They're fucking different versions. He fucked up by not including a shitton of figures from Italy. That's a fact.

>>2551452
>Cesare Beccaria
>Ruggiero Giuseppe Boscovich
>Luigi Galvani
>Antonio Genovesi
>Giuseppe Lodovico Lagrangia
>Giacomo Leopardi
>Francesco Mario Pagano
>Giambattista Vico
>irrelevant

Kys snownigger.

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>>2551499
>He fucked up by not including a shitton of figures from Italy

he was pretty harsh on spain as well. the author is a filthy perfidious *nglo after all. there's no way we don't have a little more figures than that. northern europeans have inferiority complex towards meds because they wouldn't be shit without them.

I'm a Saracenboo what am I

>>2551499
No one outside of shitaly has ever heard of any of those irrelevant Fagotto Fagottinis, and those maps are exactly the same how fucking blind are you? You just didn't put them in the same order for some reason.

Are all shitalians this retarded and deluded?

>>2550640
I have found my calling

>>2550634

this

Can somebody explain to me what is with A-Hboos? I am Czech history major, i've been studying about Austria-Hungary my whole life and it was the worst empire of them all. How can anybody find a single reason to like it?

>>2551181
>>2551499
This actually is pretty pathetic. Not sure which is sadder, one Italian shooping a graph or the other making a desperate attempt to still pass it off as real even after getting blatantly found out.

I knew Italians were pretty pretentious but I thought more in a fun way than resorting to falsifying data, this is kind of making me lose respect for them.

>>2551633
Really, do Spaniards actually think they can compare to Britain or France or Germany in science and art?

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>>2551683
It's not shooped unless the distribution of the figures is shooped as well. Seem unlikely to me.

Books always have different editions. The scan I posted is probably a more up to date version of the book.

>>2551693
They can certainly compare in art and literature.

>>2551647
>Volta and Galvani were never heard about outside Italy.

I guess batteries have their edisonage measures in ediso- oh, wait, that's VOLTAGE and VOLTS.

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>>2551735
Moar.

>>2551693
Can you name a Brittish or German painter with a bigger reputation than Picasso? I am just asking for one

>>2551800
The other dudes are extremely important as well. That frog faggot is just baiting:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesare_Beccaria

>Recognised to be one of the fathers of classical criminal theory and modern penology,[4] he is well remembered for his treatise On Crimes and Punishments (1764), which condemned torture and the death penalty, and was a founding work in the field of penology and the Classical School of criminology by promoting criminal justice.

>According to John Bessler, Beccaria's works had a profound influence on the Founding Fathers of the United States.

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God Tier:

0. My dick ∞
> My dick becomes an eternal cyborg god hybrid that lasts forever and destroys the world, 2XXX
1. English FVEY, ??? years
> Defeat of Napoleon, 1815
2. Germanic HRE, 670 years
> Barbarossa Inauguration 1155 CE
3. Carolingian Frank, 647 years
> Conversion of Clovis, 508 CE
4. Latin Rome, 676 years
> Battle of Pydna, 168 BCE
5. Mycenaean Greece, 1432 years
> Explosion of Thera, 1600 BCE
6. Minoan Crete, 7000 BCE
> Celestial Impact, 9000 years,
7. Doggerland, 16000 BCE
> Humans stop being niggers 100 000 BCE
8. Fire (invented) 800 000 BCE
- Ooh ooh ooh AAH AAH AAH

honourable mention cavalry archers

>>2550611
>Celtboo
Should be kys tier. Why would anyone like a crappy savage culture that got BTFO so hard it stopped existing almost everywhere outside of two meme islands, unless he was a cuck?

>>2551823
Dürer

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>>2552062
>believing that Celtic culture died out and that there weren't people speaking Celtic languages, enjoying Celtic fashions and shitposting their Druidic religions five centuries after they were conquered

>>2552071
Are you serious or just a Kraut?

>>2552117
Serious.

>>2550632
Shut up Dmitri Papadoulou

>>2552135
How does he have a bigger reputation than Picasso?

>>2552151
Picasso is meme tier artist liked by plebs, Dürer was far more impactful.

>>2551747
>Spain
>literature
wew

>>2552157
This is a non argument. Even then Spain has Velasquez,Goya or Dali that are way superior to Dürer if you use the meme pleb argument.

>>2552159
More impactful than German for sure.

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>>2552163
>Dali

>>2552167
I haven't heard of a single Spanish author other than Cervantes

>>2552171
>Dürer

>>2552177
But your opinion and knowledge are worthless anon. Modern literature was born in Spain.

>>2552185
>unable to name one

What is wrong with liking Prussian or Byzantine history though? Other than everyone wanting to be a contrarian little shit?

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Is Commonwealthboo the same as Polandboo?

>>2550611
>Romeboos and Byzantineboo are somehow different categories

Cute.

>>2552195
I can name multiple ones. You just don't know anyñ

>>2552238
>I can only name irrelevant ones

>>2552167
Entire literature history of Spain put together cannot measure up to Goethe alone.

>>2552247
Kek. Do you realise that Goethe was heavily influenced by Calderon which wasn't even the most notable author in the siglo de oro?

>>2552257
>shit spics actually believe

Greece is godtier. List discredited. Poor opinion.

>>2550634
This. Science is much more important.

>>2552266
>Being proud of being dumb
R U American dude?

>>2552266
Not sure where it comes from (probably part of their education) but more than one Spaniard I have met was convinced Spanish literature was literally the most extensive and influential in the world. They all could unironically name multiple Spanish playwrights they consider more influential (on a global scale) than Shakespeare.

>>2552309
Russian )))

>>2552311
Because shaky is pleb meme compared to calderon

>>2552159
Cervantes is one of the most influences writers ever dude. Obviously you don't read.

>>2552309
Can we please stop this every dumb poster is American shit

>>2552386
t. John Walker LeShawn Delgado

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I wish there was more literature on mesopotamia.

>>2550618
wow great job anon, with one sentence you discredited centuries of human thought, amazing. Please tell me what I should believe in

>>2550649
jesus Christ, your understanding of the Renaissance is pathetic

>>2550611
What about Persia?

>>2552062
Found the romaboo.

>>2550611
Strongly consider suicide

>>2552027
please fuck my boipucci

>>2552027
oh wow this.

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Where are the SriBoos? There are like five of us in the world