>a shitty desert with a population of 50,000 protoslav horsefuckers

HORSE
ARCHERS

>>2527828
We're the Chinese really that powerless against horse archers? Didn't they also have horse archers?

>>2527843
genghis khan personally raped every chinese person in the way

>>2527843
China has more trouble dealing with its own stability than with enemies on the battlefield

>>2527852
>ywn be personally humbled by chungus khan

>>2527890
>he fell for the BMC meme

>>2527819
conquered unimportant land with people who have been historically horrible at warfare. Although their campaigns in the middle east were quite impressive.

>>2527843
>Didn't they also have horse archers?
The Chinesse soon learned there's a big difference between archers on horses and horse archers. The later is a skill which takes a lifetime to develop.

why didn't they conquer india

>>2527912
Elephants

>>2527912
Tamerlane did

>>2527819
Can someone explain the red in OP's picture? Obviously they're territorial holdings, but I'm curious about the patch of land far west as fuck.

>>2527922
map of mongolic languages plus the border of the mongol empire at its height

>Mongolia
>Mongoloid
Really makes you think...

>>2527922
Those are the Kalmyks, they are Dzunghars(mongols) who migrated to there in the 18th century. Lenin was half Kalmyk.

Never try to mess with a man's waifu

>>2527819
most of the land was empty anyways

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>>2527912
The Timurids were a tribe from Mongolia.

>>2527984

it was once they were done with it

>>2527819

>how did they do it

By "conquering" what was mostly thousands of square miles of barren wasteland that noone else wanted.

>>2527906
this

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>>2527984
>>2528121
It's funny that these 'arguments' must be coming from Anglos, who had an empire of niggers, amerindians, abos and poos.

The Mongols conquered China, Islamic Middle East and Eastern Europe, all of which could prove themselves to be a good fight at the time unlike savages with sticks.

>>2527828

> HORSE ARCHERS

No, it was superb usage of heavy cavalry and their military revamp in general being superior to everything else.

Archery was merely one attribute that is incredibly over exaggerated.

>>2527843

> We're the Chinese really that powerless against horse archers?

Of course not, in many initial battles they actually had MORE horse archers than the Mongols because of all the northern auxiliaries in their armies.

The Mongols were simply better.

In fact, the Mongols were far more effective against other steppe peoples than against sedentary peoples.

The true power of the Mongols were the personas within the army, Genghis, Subotai, Batu etc. the moment those guys died it all went to shit and they were degraded to the usual generic horse armies.

Fuck, Nogai khan failed to take out fucking Hungary that was already half dead from the first invasion;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Mongol_invasion_of_Hungary

He even got his ass handed to him in Serbia, fucking Serbia.

>>2528143
The third reich and french empire only lasted a few years and most of the terriories germany acquired were only under military occupation

>>2528143
>modern Italy
>Roman Empire
My sides
Also nigger India is top shit so basically KYS

>>2527819
>protoslav
But the Slavs already existed, these were just steppe peoples

>>2528202
India was in ruins when the Eternal Anglo go his hands on it. The Mughals (Mongol tribe) absolutely devastated them to the point of no recovery.

>>2528229
Muslims tend to devastate just about anything they get their hands on

>>2527819
>>a shitty desert with a population of 50,000 protoslav horsefuckers was able to create the largest land empire in history

Theory is their land was briefly very productive, ideal for supporting huge numbers of horses and men. Then the climate shifted again and they returned to being a small sparse people.

>>2527843
>>2527906
Various Chinese Empires HAVE had cavalry and mounted archers that could fight evenly and even beat steppe nomads. It just so happened that the Jin and Song were not such Empires, and both were undergoing inner turmoil and busy fighting each other when the Mongols began their rise.

Also, steppe nomads are not always effective fighting forces. Their primary food supply are herds, not actual hunting, and if the nomadic confederation becomes especially good at extracting tribute, they can also end up as decadent and weak as any settled agrarian Empire: see the Liao and Jin.

So, if anything, it was the very hardship of the time period that allowed the Mongols to become such an effective fighting force.

>>2527843
I have read that Chink horses tended to be weaker than the ones owned by steppe nomads. A sedentary society doesn't focus on breeding thousands of swift horses. The various nomadic tribes did, and they rode all day every day. Chinese calvary were either too inexperienced or just outnumbered when they encountered nomads.

>>2527945
his ethnic background is hotly debated actually

>>2528121
And the other half was some of the wealthiest and most densely populated regions on the planet. What a shitty point to make.

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What happened here?

>>2528229
>India was in ruins when the Eternal Anglo go his hands on it. The Mughals (Mongol tribe) absolutely devastated them

>>2528839
>steppe build fast horses
Yeah that's why steppe nomads have always favoured tall horses
Oh wait
>>2528229
I'm confused, I thought /his hated the English for what they did to India?

>>2527843
Mongols are like tribes in CKII, they have a military advantage against feudals at the beginning, but as technology develops they start to suck and can't do shit
t. paracuck

Mongols are protoslavs and live in deserts?

>>2528143
>poos
>steppegooks couldn't even conquer street shitters

Note how the Mongolians spread. Many of their conquests were closely tied to the Eurasian steppe, which actually happens to be mostly grassland that is well suited for grazing cattle.

>>2530928
>>steppegooks couldn't even conquer street shitters

Alexander got killed an arrow tipped in poo-poison.

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>>2527819

>>2530757
THe steppe doesn't get enough rainfall therefore it's a desert

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>>2531021
That's why they must make the Final Solution.

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>>2528164

>Serbia

lmfao Remove turkic remove turkic you are worst khanate you are the Mongol smell.

>>2528143
>spanish europe
>how to marry every country into your empire
Should've just shown Spain's colonial empire, it was pretty impressive.

>>2527819
>protoslav
What?

>>2527819
wasn't that the British Empire

>>2531021
What's with that red spot all the way to the left?

How would the mongols have faired if their khan didn't die and they pushed further into Europe

>>2528143
If it was so easy then why didn't your country do it?

>>2527819
>chechens are mongol
Well fuck

>>2527906
>lifetime to develop
blatantly wrong, more like horse archery was a mongol lifestyle
Mongols were proficient at horse archery by the time they were 14...hardly a "lifetime"
besides, Genhis Khan's success started against other Mongol tribes and they also fought large middle eastern forces which had excellent horse archery.

>>2527843
The northern half of China (aka the Jin dynasty) was a conquest dynasty ruled by the Jurchens who conquered the Chinese. The Jurchens were basically Mongol lites, so yes they had their own horse archers.

>>2536699
those are the kalmyks not the chechens