Universally speaking, what is considered an "attractive

>>2520286
Not ugly, no deformities, healthy weight and size

>>2520286
any woman form which a beta retrieves a value, a relevance and turn this into a pride.

>>2520286

Facial symmetry, youth, fertility.

>>2520286
Whatever signals health and reproductive capabilities

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>>2520286
Has to have a penis

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>>2520286
Thickness

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Englishness.

>>2520286
That one, who is she?

>>2520286
not fat

beauty standards are a social construct

>>2520549
You're going to have a hard time finding a non-retard thinking that (in a broad term) beauty isn't a social construct.

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>>2520549

This. Fuck fascist beauty standards they were created by the white supremacist capitalist heteronormative cispatriarchy to oppress women and PoC

>>2520286
Curves

>>2520576
You dropped your spaghetti

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>>2520575

Retard detected characteristics that show evolutionary fitness are universal. Why are libcucks so anti science?

>>2520576
Don't forget how this is all somehow a result of jews.

>>2520586
People don't always select for evolutionary fitness

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>>2520589

Some men also get off by cutting their dicks and pretending to be women. Outliers don't disprove anything. Also we are talking about beauty standards in general not personal preference

>>2520586
>What's sexual selection
Why bother mentioning evolution if you're going to leave out one of the key elements of it.

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>>2520596

Sexual selection is influenced by evolutionary fitness.

>>2520286
There was a survey done in my country and I remember saying that men like women with high cheekbones.
There were also some other things but I forgot them.

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>Beauty standards are a social cons-

>>2520592
If they're even outliers. Also characteristics aren't even universal anyway; different cultures have a preference for different hip-waist ratios, the argument being that a larger number of parasites in whatever local diet would result in a preference for larger hips.

Besides, 'attractive woman' can refer to more than just physical beauty.

>>2520603
To what degree?

I've noticed that 4chan autists tend to have a very abstract ideal of female beauty. I think it has something to do with their malformed brains.

>>2520286
one that betters herself for you independant of any conditionality upon your behalf short of being free of you being oppositionally defiant just cuz'

>>2520286
not your pic

>>2520286
Clean unscarred skin is one of the few signs of attractiveness that exists everywhere.

>>2520603
That doesn't contradict it being a social construct.

>>2520624
anime is very abstract, pretty sure it is anime

>>2520576
>there are """men""" who will stick it into them in a heartbeat

>>2520649
>Tattoos

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>>2520586
>>2520592
>>2520603
Why do you have these pictures saved on your computer.

>>2520286
Looks healthy. Normal weight, clear skin, no weird abnormalities, symmetrical, healthy hair.

>>2520592
>Outliers don't disprove anything.

Actually they do. They disprove universal standards.

>>2520576
I'd fuck em.

>>2520613
That's not a perfect face tho

>>2520639
Yeah, man, like a slim girl with well formed lips, well formed cheeks, a feminine jaw, big blue eyes, small nose, fair skin and fine eyebrows isn't attractive.
#Beautyissubjective

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>>2520694

Yeah fuck fascist beauty standards everyone is beautiful!!!

Liked shared and upvoted

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>>2520724
>Yeah fuck fascist beauty standards everyone is beautiful!!!
Oh, I don't agree with this. My standards on what a beautiful woman looks like are quite high, that's why I don't find a woman attractive solely based on her being white or having some doodles on her face.

>>2520286
>Universally speaking
That's where your question becomes a question with no answer.
Memers will tell you otherwise though.

>>2520759
>patrician taste
/pol/ redpilled kiddos have fetishized race and anti-SJWism so much they apply it to everything.
>Bruh, I can't even fap to women who aren't aryan, photoshop-tier supermodels, like that's absolute beauty amirite?

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>Pale, porcelain skin
>Big eyes
>Symmetrical face
>Light, thick, voluminous hair that's straight
>Aquiline nose, or at least nose with pronounced nose bridge
>Sharp features in general (like nose)
>Not much body hair
>Proportional tits, usually C's are best, but B's are nice too.

Personality

>Into rape fantasies
>Into degradation fantasies
>Has low self-esteem
>Has daddy issues
>Likes being throatfucked
>Has tattoos
>Browses 4chan

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>>2520657
>>2520690
like kekwork

>>2520286
Obviosly with a mental and phys health, plus accurate at all. Q is, what is it for a woman.

Not fat. That's really all I care about. If she's not chubby, I'll fuck her.

>>2520483
>when English women still looked human and not like Doctor Who alien rejects

>>2520649

>what is scarification
>what are piercings

>>2521922
Hi.

I'm >>2521803

I like piercings (nipple piercings, tongue piercings) because of what they signify more than anything else. When I see a girl who has them it tells me she's a bit fucked in the head, a bit of a masochist etc.

That's why I like them. Same reason I like tattoos.

>>2521922
What are warts, boils and blemishes? God you are the most retarded person in the world, go fuck yourself with a torch you piece of shit, "but my muh common sense" is shit, just like you are. God please tell me you are sterile so that you at least wont contaminate the gene pool.

>>2521803
The first half of this

>>2520288
Objectively, this

>>2520535
Soe, she works in esports and such I'm pretty sure

>>2522041
She was built for rape. Look at that body.

>>2520613
That bitch is not pretty at all anon, shame on you

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While it obviously a subjective thing, there are SOME key elements that come from instinct.
Some features we like may very well be natures way of telling us that this one is good for children.
You also have people who see beauty in different ways.
My gf isn't ugly and yet isn't pretty, but she has some personal aesthetics that i enjoy that maybe others couldn't overcome.
It's not a social construct, but in some ways it is.

>>2520576
i'm surprised the floor didn't collapse

Nice face, long and (preferably) smooth hair, symmetric body (from head to toe), sufficiently large breasts, wide hips, clear skin.

This is literally feminine beauty 101, and Greeks made all their women statues following these criteria.

>>2522602
>First part

Mostly agree. See >>2521803

>second part

*tips fedora and vanishes into vape cloud*

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Big messy hair. God i love big messy hair.

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>>2520286
Youthfulness! But this one is still 10/10 with grandma skin.

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>>2520576
my god the PARCHIARCHY

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>>2521824
DELET

One with a feminine penis

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>>2522767
Yeah but Gillian actually has exceptional skin for her age, nearly 50 or something, and is a bit of a health food nut. Even in her early interviews she said she was vegetarian and didn't drink or smoke. We see Scully smoking of course, but that couldve been faked.

>>2522859
She was always fugly

>>2520286
You wanna fuck her?
You wanna be with her?
You can't stop thinking about her?

>>2520286
Nothing specific that's universal, only standards which are subject to change, depending on cultures.

>>2522859
She will be hot even in her early 70s

>>2520759
>high
Implying a superiority. Strict, perhaps, but high? That's subjective.

>>2520286
cute face, short waist, and a big behind

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>>2520576

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>>2520483
More like Irishness

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>>2520286
Waist to hip ratio - take the smallest measurement at the waist and divide it by the largest measurement around the hips

the thinner the better, .7 - .8 for females is considered attractive across cultures.

its an evolutionary argument, notice how this was selected for in women, while it just looks weird on dudes. broad shoulders were selected for.

>>2523152
here's your redpill
the better your ratio, the bigger the boobs, the "more fertile" and "childbearing" the hips the dumber the brain
why?
because it takes some other advantages to make up for your shitty build

this is why smart women have small tits and look weird

same logic goes for men, but i won't spell it out for you

>>2520286
Young, firm, smooth skin, symmetrical features, child bearing hips, milky jugs.

>>2520690
You sick fuck

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>>2523105

not fat, high cheekbones, no jew nose.

>Universally

>>2520286
pale skinned buxom women. Look at the prices arabs set for sex slaves.
see Circassian beauties.
Half of black men in the UK are with white women.
Most black men seem to prefer white women.
Hapa culture obsess over being rejected by white women.
Most men of all races including white seem to be most obsessed with white women.
Dark skinned women bleach there skin.

one who is intelligent, nihilistic and has a wicked sense of humour

>>2523210
Kenny get off 4chan.

>>2521803
>tattoos
Into the homeless shelter you go, anon.

You'll find your waifu there for sure.

>>2520576
>That short, fat spic in the front
She has to be kneeling, right?

>>2520309
This.

>>2523589
you're delusional
in many african cultures white women are considered ugly

>>2523723
>african
>cultures
Ya blew it

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>>2521803
>personality
>tattoos

I would definitely regard the inclination towards obtaining a tattoo as a personality flaw, not just in a women, but any individual. Nothing turns me off a person faster than seeing some disgusting self indulgent graffiti on their flesh.

>>2520286
If I feel a stirring in my loins, she is an attractive woman.

>>2520309
>Fertility
How do you determine fertility by looking at someone
There could be hot girls who fuck like crazy because they're barren

>>2520379

look's like rodrick from diary of wimpy kid, fugly face, delicios body

>>2520286
>start thread asking for evidence for use of gas chambers in ww2
>get 30 day sitewide ban
>mods let this off-topic crap stay up

This board is worse than /pol/

>>2524663


becuz yowh uglyy tooohhh and so yo mOmma

>>2520288
>>2520350
Right

>>2520549
Wrong

>>2520286
Rosie O'Donnell

>>2524178
>>2523638
I explain why here.

>>2521934

I like girls with daddy issues and I find the outward trappings hot.

>>2520483

>women no longer look like this

Feelsbadman.jpg

>>2520549
you must be fantastically ugly

>>2522817
>head leaning away
>pulling the bowstring with base segment of fingers
>arrow not even nocked
I'm fucking triggered.

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>>2522870
Fucking kys she was and always will be a qt

>>2522859

Too bad she married some uggo and her daughter looks like a goblin

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Natalia Poklonskaya

>>2522826
>terry2
Please post your other terrys

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>>2525353
:3

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>>2525353
this desu

>>2525622
>she likes Nikolai II
Into the trash she goes

>>2525353
shes aged horribly

>>2525622
>>2525799
>>2525353
she is against fascism so ofc she is a qt

>>2526584
You are a Jew if you don't want the monarchy back

my gf

>>2525622

Look at how she is genuinely interested in the art, possibly admiring the craft or the history of it.

Where can I find a woman like this who won't just take a selfie with it?

>>2526734
>this shitty king is a hero because commies killed him

I'd rail you if you asked nicely... If that's what you're asking

>>2527009
He was a bad tsar, still better than the judeo-bolsheviks though.

>>2527027
This.

Think about someone like Tony Blair. Think about that level of sheer treachery. No King has ever tried to actively wipe his own people out and replace them with foreigners before.

Shit Kings > Successful (((politicians)))

>>2527027
No, he wasn't. Soviets were infinitely superior to Nikolai. They took his shitty backward ass nation and turned it into an actual world super power.

>>2527035
That was only after Stalin cleansed the bolshevik kikes who plunged Russia into utter chaos, and he still had to bring serfdom back to accomplish it.

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>>2520286
someone who we can associate with, having fun, being honest, helping each other emotional and striving to be better, someone to complete us, to make us happy, interested, fascinated and count on for everything. Having a "nice body" is surtanly apeling at first, but there is no women who has all the personality thraids and body characteristics a man seeks for but in they they exchange them, forget about what they don t like and accentuate what they do like. An attractive women is a women who fulfills best a man s ideas of human beauty and is intriguing for him, who fits his needs, either by the outside language (clouting, apple, behavior) or inside (personality)

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>>2520379
LOL

Also this is the second time I've seen this thread, it was a while ago, what's your obsession with soe dude?

>>2520613
She is far from perfect, and it was confirmed that she used photoshop.

>>2521803
>First half

Based

>second half

Nice bait

>>2520549
they a social constructed because of what the human mind objectively likes

>>2520586
Mao would have personally shot this man in the head

>>2520549
You better have arguments to back that up that don't include the massive number of illogical & nonsensical fetishes a human can develop because that alone proves me wrong.

>>2521945
are you ok

>>2520576
>be beautiful
>get everything you wanted just for existing
>people love you and want to be with you
>massive self-esteem
>generally pretty okay with the system
>rarely achieve any substantial level of self-actualization because you don't need to

>be ugly
>few people like you or want to date you
>develop low self-esteem
>work hard because you realize nothing in life comes for free
>get degrees, become an expert or scientist or whatever
>still no admiration from the plebs
>still no social acceptance
>Stacy is still happier and more content, and probably richer because she married well due to being desirable
>become angry and start blaming the system

There's a very simple reason most radical feminists tend to be landwhales. The qt ones gain nothing from challenging a system that benefits them.

>yfw you realize feminism is the same as /pol/'s red pill, only has a different boogeyman and uses different idioms

>>2529298
I said this a few years ago to someone in our PhD program, "Where did all the hot girls go?"

Tons in undergrad. A few in masters. None in PhD. They realize they don't have to work that hard to get what they want.

>>2520286
On the universal sense, since males are suppose to be the strong, big, hard, rough, tough, and straight lined in appearance, they will be attracted to the narrow, small, fragile, smooth, graceful, gentle, round, curvy and welcoming in appearance.

Basically, like how a Cock experience a vagina, that's how the universal men sees the universal female.

Also, that is why men without confidence and strength are fucked up.
Females look for those qualities in the males in the general sense.


That is why I'm screwed.
Still, I'm more attracted to character than appearance.

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Universally speaking, women with Mediterranean sea water in her blood.

Objectively, Peruvian women

>>2529298
>>yfw you realize feminism is the same as /pol/'s red pill, only has a different boogeyman and uses different idioms
third wave feminists just haven't realized exactly which rich (((white))) men run the system yet is all. they're so close, yet so far.

>>2520286
>Universally speaking
>attractive
Attractiveness is, by definition, subjective.

Beauty, however, is absolute. I would say it is strongly linked to a sort of juxtaposition of vitality and delicacy.

>>2529307

>being this retarded

undergrads 17-23yrs old (hottest)
masters 24-30 years old (some hot)
phd 30 yrs old + (few hot people remaining)

go jerk off to some more anime you fucking neck beard.

>>2529666

fair point,

also

good get.

>>2520286
A young, child-like, looking woman

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>a sort of juxtaposition of vitality and delicacy.

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>>2521803
>Pale, porcelain skin
Sure, but a Carotene tan looks better if added ontop of this complexion
>Big eyes
No. Positive Canthal Tilt, as well as being hortizontally long but vertically small (aka hunter eyes as opposed to prey eyes)
>Symmetrical face
Yeah
>Light, thick, voluminous hair that's straight
Most Northern Europeans have thin hair (which is a progressive trait) but yeah
>Aquiline nose, or at least nose with pronounced nose bridge
No, a high rooted, high bridged, long thin nose is ideal
>Sharp features in general (like nose)
Sure
>Not much body hair
A bit subjective but yeah, you don't want her to have no body hair at all because then any potential sons you two may have might end up with little body hair but you wouldn't want the opposite extreme and end up looking Indian/Sicilian.
>Proportional tits, usually C's are best, but B's are nice too.
45:55 Breast ratio, 20-Degree nipple, this is usually not possible in breasts too large or too small, think perky.

pic is (You) b8

>>2520483
sauce?

>>2522602
>wide hips
A low wait to hip ratio is ideal in women.

The Greeks seemed to know a lot more about the ideal female form than we do in the modern day, lost wisdom perhaps.

>>2525069
It's propaganda who cares, pretty girl is all that matters.

>>2529734
Gianna actually is pretty qt in a weird sorta way. And then her body... well we hardly need to argue on that.

>>2529803
The House That Screamed. Excellent spooky 70s film.

>>2529950
Thank you.

>>2520286
Generally speaking things that indicate health and strong genes, e.g. weight, symmetricity of face/body, lack of health issues or deformity, and strong bone structure. Also shapely titties, ass and child bearing hips.

Aside from that it is mostly subjective and socially influenced. A lot of the time it has to do with indicators of wealth, like how in the past in Europe paleness was attractive because it indicated not having to work for a living, whereas now being tanned is desired because it implies travel abroad. I would say the subjective/social aspect probably calls the shots overall. I don't think foot binding was a thing because of some in built biological drive.

>>2524316
This attraction we're talking about, instinct; not calculation or measurement.

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>>2520576

>>2525353
>>2525622
>>2525799
Have you seen the bitches teeth? There's a reason she always keeps her trap closed in photos.

>>2529350
>narrow, small, fragile,
bull fucking shit m8, this is usually social conditioning. There are universal standards of female beauty but being weak is not one of them.

>>2520624
Yet more proof that women are not funny

>>2520286
your picture

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>>2520613

That face doesn't even match the superimposed outline.

To see this image and believe it - truly one must be retarded.

>>2529701
>don't watch anime
>don't have a bear, let alone a neckbeard
You clearly never actually went to school. In my discipline, anyone who wants a PhD goes straight after either undergrad or masters, depending on their programs.

Meaning it's more like
Undergrad 17-22
Masters 22-24
PhD 22-29 (at the absolute latest)

Truly an impressive difference! Go kill yourself, loser NEET

Strong legs for pushing plow and strong back for hoisting baskets of harvest

>>2520575
Explain the Venus of Willendorf then.

>>2520483
They look like southern europeans.

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The good points have already been largely brought up. Given that preference and societal difference has always had an impact, there are many factors which are nigh-universal.

Symmetry, good skin and hair, healthy body-weight, some level of voluptuous bosom and bottom, etc. The key factor is things remaining within some level of what is typical.

However, we can't deny that somethings are socially constructed. Black girls straightening their hair is, by and large, due to social constructs. Skin whitening cream as well, is a combination of colonial legacies and emphasis on class (tanned skin indicative of being a labourer).

Having said that, a lot of it likely comes down to familiarity. Preferring white skin as a white person living in a white society isn't indicative of racism. Having said that, genetically speaking, I highly doubt there is any kind of predisposition towards any skin color.

The average person is attractive, because we are attracted to decidedly typical traits. Go figure.

>>2534171

Same anon here, just adding a really good anecdotal point here.

I did my Bachelor's at the University of Alabama and my Master's at the University of Illinois. Many, many, many Southern white girls insist that they are not attracted to black guys. Same is insisted of many white guys. The same ratio is not at all present in the North, and I can guarantee this isn't a coincidence nor is it genetic predisposition.

a white woman
>tfw you will never ever have a white wife

why wasn't I born European

>>2534171
pooinloo followed by uzbek are best looking. All other opinions are wrong.

>>2520288
>healthy weight
this board is filled with casuals

>>2534636
T. Captain Ahab

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>>2534171
>No Aboriginal

>>2529726
This. We are juvenile apes.

European

>>2520624
ROFL