It's the year 1939. What nation has the best chance of defeating

>>2496342

Pretty much any major power. Germany is completely reliant on foreign oil to make their war machine work. Without it, they have no air or armor support worth mentioning and will have an enormous amount of trouble knocking over even places like France, and someone like the USSR or the U.S. would smother them.

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>>2496342

Germany couldnt even beat them when they had Italy, Finland, Croatia, Slovakia, Romania, Hungary, and Spain in their invasion.

>>2496359
Italy costed them the battle against the Soviets.

>>2496351
What logic is this? Were every military in the world at the time reliant on steam power and only Germany on oil? I don't recall OP saying that the opponent was allowed to trade and Germany not. Germany had allies in the Middle East.

>>2496351
>Pretty much any major power.
Lol. France was doing well.

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>path blocking intensifies

>>2496378

>What logic is this? Were every military in the world at the time reliant on steam power and only Germany on oil?

The logic is that other major powers (unless you count Italy and China as major powers) have access to domestic sources of oil, either in their home countries or in their colonies. Germany has a little spigot near Austria and some synthetic stuff, not nearly enough to sustain the kind of offensives they'd need to overcome another major power.

> I don't recall OP saying that the opponent was allowed to trade and Germany not.
> No outside backup/support/help

Do you have a reading problem, or a thinking problem?

> Germany had allies in the Middle East.

Not really. There was some sympathy in places like Iran and Iraq, but not enough to actually send over crude, except insofar as the occupied Vichy government did yield the oil they were getting from Iraq over to the Germans. (Until the British invaded it anyway).

>>2496378

Germany was reliant on the Soviet Union for the bulk of their oil. The Mid East at the time was pretty much entirely under the control of France and Britain.

sorry stormfags, but there is no realistic way in which the nazis had any chance of winning

>>2496402

Romania actually provided more oil than the USSR even when the Germans were trading with both.

>>2496372
How so?

>>2496437
He's going to go on about how the diversion towards Greece delayed Barbarossa and gave time for the winter to come to the Soviet's aid while simultaneously overlooking that the main diversion to the Balkans was Yugoslavia, and Greece was an afterthought, that the necessary supply buildups had not been completed by May, and the enormous difficulties the Germans had in pushing on even by mid-September before the weather turned foul.

>>2496402
Yeah okay but

what if a fascist government takes power in Britain and the USA adopts a policy of total isolationism and Spain never had to fight a civil war to install Franco and Japan successfully invades Siberia and Turkey joins the Axis Powers and so does Iran and Italy crushes Greece and never suffers a labor shortage?

Who could possibly stop the glorious German war machine then?

>>2496459
Poland will have to save Europe

>>2496459
>90% of speculative WW2 threads: the post

>>2496400
So in your imaginary scenario other powers can trade with their colonies and Germany has to be completely blockaded. You sure showed me Germany had no chance.

>>2496459

you might as well just throw in that superman becomes a nazi after he sees a bunch of shitty anti-semetic jpegs while browsing /pol/

>>2496396
>running away intensifies

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>>2496459

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>>2496512

In the scneario OP describes, we have no foreign support for either side. Germany, however, was enormously reliant for foreign support. What exactly is the difference between the Soviets or British getting American Lend-Lease and Germans getting Romanian oil?

>>2496659
Trade =/= support.

>>2496663

Hey, Lend-Lease was trade too! The Soviets sent some raw materials back to the U.S. And of course, we'll ignore that trade to one belligerent in a conflict has been considered a form of support since at the very least the Napoleonic wars, (you might want to look up why Napoleon deposed his younger brother Louis after setting him up in the Netherlands as king). We'll also ignore how the Germans would unilaterally set the exchange rate between the Reischmark and the Leu, essentially making it a form of tribute.

>>2496688
Ok so reddit thinks Germany loses to Great Britain if Britain is allowed to trade with its colonies and Germany is blockaded. We get it.

>>2496698

Germany lost either way.

Why are you so mad about this?

>>2496703
I'm not bad that you have an opinion bro. I'm not a leftis!t Still doesn't make it true though.

>>2496698

Germany was blockaded, since you know, you had hostile naval powers restricting their overseas movements, which is why they didn't even try to get stuff out of the North Sea. This, of course, did not stop access to Romanian oil, which was overland. However, the hypothetical the OP describes is rather specific in that it is a "1v1", no support to either side.

English is quite a useful language. You should really learn how to write in it, it'll help you in all sorts of things in life in general, not just on 4chan.

>>2496698
>Hypothetical 1939 showdown between Great Britain and the Third Reich, who would win?
>oh yeah also Britain is disallowed the primary benefit of having the most powerful navy on the planet

see >>2496459 for the remainder of your argument