>various religious organisations such as al-qaeda and ISIS

>>2491682
>what is mutually assured destruction

>>2491701
>what are godcucks that literally want the apocalypse to happen and want to die to do it

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

>various countries such as al-the US, UK and France have openly (even formally) declared war on the Middle East
>all have used weapons of mass destruction against various civilian targets
>each has made actual biological or nuclear weapons and United States is considered to already possess 'neutron bombs'
>wmd threat is real and credible: "nuclear war is the single most important national security threat that we face. one nuclear weapon exploded in a city - be it New York or Moscow, Tokyo or Beijing, London or Paris - could kill hundreds of thousands of people, and it would destabilize our security, our economies, and our very way of life." - President Eisenhower
>Alt-Right demands tolerance

>>2491682

Non-state actors have been a headache since 9/11, and now that we have literal retards with nukes around(Pakistan, India and North Korea) instead of stable goverments(US, UK and France) and one semistable-somewhat safe goverment(Russia) the risk of using nuclear weapons is higher, either before or after those weak goverments fall.

And even if you could just pinpoint these kind of organizations in the map it wouldn't matter, MAD is based around the idea that both parts are rational agents.

And not everyone is a rational agent.

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>various Western states such as the USA and UK have informally declared war on the Middle East
>all have an unstated ambition to control the oil trade against the wishes of the native peoples
>each has made actual credible attempts to establish dominance over state actors and the USA is considered to already control Saudi Arabia and Israel
>Western threat is real and credible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtZErcUTXE
>Westerncucks demand that their views be the world's

>>2491744
>US
>Stable
I think India and Pakistan's democracies are more stable right now

>>2491715
>>2491746
>failing to see the difference between actions against states and actions against civilians

>>2491746
>wanting oil means you declare war on the M.E.
>not actually taking action against the larger oil states
>U.S. pulls Israel's strings and not the other way around
>being this politically illiterate
>Might makes right = cuck
Shiggy

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>>2491746
>>2491715

>>2491986
To be fair >>2491746 makes some good points.

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So can we all agree on this history?

July 1979: US Energy Crisis is caused by Iranian Revolution. Realising that America had become dangerously dependent on oil President Carter gave his Crisis of Confidence speech.
>I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of the United States. Beginning this moment, this Nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977-never. From now on, every new addition to our demand for energy will be met from our own production and our own conservation. The generation-long growth in our dependence on foreign oil will be stopped dead in its tracks right now and then reversed as we move through the 1980's
>To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my Presidential authority to set import quotas.
>To give us energy security, I am asking for the most massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our Nation's history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel

But fat Americans just wanted cheap gas and didn't give a fuck. Carter's modest and sensible proposal was so outrageous to Amerilards that his support plummeted and he was facing a landslide defeat. So he reversed gears and came up with the Carter Doctrine in January 1980, which is still policy and is responsible for the mess that the US has made of the Middle East (and he still lost).
>Let our position be absolutely clear: An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.
>TL;DR: the United States will use military force if necessary to keep the oil flowing.

>>2491976
>against states and actions against civilians
You do realize states are full of civilians right? When America bombed Hiroshima it didn't wipe out their military installations.

>>2491744
You're right about Pakistan. The entire country should just be nuked from orbit, the Sunni population genocided and the land split between Iran and India.

But DPRK won't use nukes.

>>2491701

the threat of MAD only works due to both parties' desire to not be killed. that is the sole condition on which it operates. considering the fact that death does absolutely nothing to deter their cause (and actually elevates it due to their belief in martyrdom) MAD will do nothing to stop them.

>>2491682
>be it New York or Moscow, Tokyo or Beijing, London or Paris

Don't give them suggestions, dumbass!

>>2492020

democracy was a mistake

>>2491979
>U.S. pulls Israel's strings and not the other way around
ya blew it
Israel is absolutely tiny in comparison to the US or even many US states, in terms of area, population, and natural resources