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>tfw live better than kings did hundreds of years ago

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>tfw live better than kings did hundreds of years ago

Feels good man
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Heh what a pleb
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That feel when no girlfriend tho
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>>2452010
Materialism is sin.
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>>2452020
t. Henry Chesterton IV
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>TFW no harem though
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In some regards. Others, not so much. You probably don't have a legion of servants or a harem full of women.
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>>2452019
Why do you need a girlfriend when you have videogames?
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>don't get to spend all day hunting, riding horses, dancing, feasting and whoring while everyone adores you and all your loyal servants and statesmen sort out all your problems for you

I think not
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>>2452046
Videogames won't let you rim an asshole
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>>2452071
>old hags
fuck off
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>>2452010

No you don't lol.

Kings could clap their hands and get whatever amount of pussy they wanted.

They could also ride around in armor and swordfight, even kill people.

You eat better food and will live longer, that is basically it.

But your life will still likely be far more depressing and shittier than some kings life.
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>>2452079
>you eat better food
Not really. The average meal of a king might be on-par with the kind of meal one has a handful of times in their lifetime, unless they are ultrarich.
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>>2452020
>Uses modern technology to condemn modernity as evil.
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>>2452095
One doesn't have to like something to be bound to it.
>omg jews why do you hate the romans so much if you live under them wtf i hate jews now take the red pill
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>>2452103
What?
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>>2452108
We're bound to the technology you sperg.
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Does anyone have the "Wagecuck vs. Serf" image saved?
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>>2452109
Kinda a weird analogy to use.

You're free to reject modern technology. Go live in Clear Creek, Oklahoma.
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>>2452131
That's not freedom. Jews were free to bugger off somewhere too. It's not like the Romans could control every part of the middle east.

I used the Jews as an example for a reason, Anon, they were bound to Jerusalem.
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>>2452046
Sex is nice. I like children too
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>>2452079
Our lives are much more comfortable.

Money and servants means nothing if you don't have your health. Most people find that out that hard way.
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>>2452134
You're not tho, so bugger off.
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>>2452152
Yes I am.
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>>2452146
Our lives are horrible.
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>>2452172
What's "yenta"?
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>>2452079
>But your life will still likely be far more depressing and shittier than some kings life.

Nice projection, plebeian! Can't hear you here in my castle (bachelor pad)!
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>>2452178
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Yenta
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>>2452095
Well, it's important have an effective medium if you want to spread the Lord's word.

>>2452071
Never understood the fascination with the ass. Don't you know that poopoo comes out of there for girls as well? I guess it helps define the form of the girl's body, but simply paying attention to the ass itself is just nonsense.
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>>2452071
>rim an asshole
Why would I do that? Literally the most disgusting subservient beta thing you can do, worse than kissing someone's boots.
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>>2452172
>thinking I'm gonna work for the corps
nice joke chummer
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>>2452197
>our lives
>I
Take a pick and run with it you Anglo swine
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>>2452019
I'll have you know that I have a 2D wife, and don't need a girlfriend.
I advise that you also marry a perfect 2D girl.
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>>2452172
>17
old hag
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>>2452010
>Tfw no royal marriage
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>>2452184
Hilarious and origional.
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>>2452214
Stop asking retarded questions you can google in 2 seconds you fucking moron.
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>>2452172
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>>2452142
You can always become a priest.
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>>2452412
>this is what dead inside wagecucks tell themselves
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>>2452431
No you can't. I tried.
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>>2452194
>being unable to just appreciate a nice butt
Sad.
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>>2452010
A king? Not really. Our environments are more comfortable due to shit like AC and superior heating. Not to mention medical care and entertainment.

Other than that a wealthy noble or merchant would still be far better off than your average pleb today. They had servants doing everything for them, professional chefs cooking them whatever they wanted, the finest clothing, and the ability to literally get away with murder should someone piss them off.
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>>2452547
>Other than that a wealthy noble or merchant would still be far better off than your average pleb today. They had servants doing everything for them, professional chefs cooking them whatever they wanted, the finest clothing, and the ability to literally get away with murder should someone piss them off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damocles
And live in constant fear of being usurped or invaded.
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America's homicide clearance rate—the percentage of solved crimes that lead to arrest—has fallen considerably in the past 50 years, from around 90% in 1965 to around 64% in 2012, according to federal statistics. This means more than 211,000 homicides committed since 1980 remain unsolved.Jul 4, 2015
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>>2452088
source?
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>>2452587
>source for something self-evident
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>>2452584
>90% in the 60s

yeah, and 80% of them were innocent or negroes that got blamed for literally everything
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>>2452508
peter hitchens is a whiny old knob who cares what he says
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>>2452589
Is it though? today we have a wealth of spices and luxury foods that would be exotic and hard to obtain, not to mention may not even be available in that part of the world, not to mention cooking has gone from something that was a necessity to more of an artform in the last 100 years. Again, I ask source that kings ate more varied, quality food than what I could obtain and prepare for myself with $50 at the local grocer
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>>2452602
>spices and luxury food make a meal
t. tastelet
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>>2452595
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>>2452606
>spices and luxury food don't make a meal
t. king from hundreds of years ago
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>>2452609
Why are arguments good?
>>2452614
Firstly, kings had access to spices and such. He could pay to have one of the best chefs in Europe work for him.

He didn't have to deal with restrictions.
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>>2452625
Arguments and counter-arguments are how we find answers.
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>>2452625
It's easy to just SAY that, what I was asking for was a source to where you got your info from, or if you were just deducing that's the way things were
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>>2452633
No they aren't.
And if so, why are answers good?
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>>2452644
Answers solve problems. By their definition that's what they are.
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>>2452019
B-but I have a magic box that produces pictures of traps which I can jerk my penis off to
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>>2452652
Why is solving problems good?
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>>2452659
Because problems are by their definition bad. Think of problem-solving as the removal of bad things.
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>>2452660
Why do you think problems are bad?
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>>2452670
If they weren't bad we wouldn't recognize them as problems.
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>the I've personally slept with more races of women than any of my ancestors even knew existented, like a genetic conquistador
>tfw I eat meat and fruit every single day
>tfw physical exercise for fun, a practice facilitated by technology to allow anyone and everyone to have the physique of a Greek god
>when I'm done that I literally hop into a tube and have a personal waterfall of clean warm water cascade over me
>I can relax with almost every single piece of music ever created available in an instant, no matter the temporal/special distance between me and the artist
>Dito with art, books, plays, etc.

I literally get to live the life of a God in exchange for 8 hours a day of minimum wage labor.

Modernity is pretty cool desu.
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>>2452674
Yes we would.
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>>2452689
No one is impressed by you sleeping with old hags
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>>2452716
Literally nobody is impressed with your creepy perverse obsession with little girls
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>>2452835
adolescents are not little girls, frog poster.
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>>2452010
So you get primae noctis?
You don't have to work?
You get to sleep with all the girls in the court even if you're ugly?
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>>2452584
Yeah....that's probably because forensics fucking sucked and you could get convicted if you had a motive and someone saw you in the general vicinity of the victim before they died.
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>>2452508
He's anti-capitalism? Or, wait, does he actually confuse capitalism with globalism?
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>>2452881
Globalism is all about wealth like he says. Once you obliterate culture and tradition all that you have left are efficiency and hedonism. Financial interests are the driving force behind globalism. Not necessarily what I'd call capitalist though.
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>>2452964
What we understand as capitalism came out of the enlightenment, right? Which was completely anti-religion, anti-tradition, and focused on people doing "useful" things. Capitalism is the source of the loss of all those things. It's sort of surprising they held on for so long.

Is he some kind of monarchist then?
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>>2452980
Probably a kind of traditionalist would be the most accurate label. He wants England to be English forever. Trains and bicycles instead of cars and trucks, everyone is Christian, decosmopolitanize London, everyone gets along with their neighbors and social capital is unimaginably high, that sort of thing.
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>>2452010
no harem.
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>>2452010
So yuz be sayin dat we kangz n shiet now?
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>>2452020
then throw out your computer
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>>2452010
>no court of loyal vassals and scribes doting on your every word
>no royal banquets held in your honour
>no rival kingdom razed and put to the sword by your command
>no vast riches and land
>no children to pass your reign down to and ensure the glory of your family for centuries
you live like SHIT
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>>2452606
Wait what else would make a meal, besides spices and ingredients? Sure cooking plays a part but if we're arguing modernity vs. medieval kings I have access to literally millions of recipes.
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>>2453176
And they have the best chefs in Europe, or even out of colonies. They're better than you unless you're a professional chef yourself.
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>>2453146
Don't have to worry about being razed, executed or usurped though. Everyone seems to be assuming that all kings had strong kingdoms
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>>2452088
t. I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about
You could open up a fucking kindergarden book on culinary history and learn this is wrong.
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>>2453183
but at least you would die a king and not some old fag in a hospital bed
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>>2452142
>I like children too
I bet you do :`^>
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>>2452088
>Can't eat no raw vegetable because human shit is used as fertilizers, everything has to be boiled for hours
>Alcohol all the time because the water is shit
>Pickled cucumber to everything
>If you're a king, noble or very rich you'll eat lung hash, pig's trotters, lamb head and other similar disgusting stuff
People ate a lot of chitterlings. Today you almost never eat chitterlings because it taste like shit.
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>>2452602
>I ask source that kings ate more varied, quality food than what I could obtain and prepare for myself with $50 at the local grocer
Do you spend $50 on every meal?

Also good luck finding swans and whole boars at your grocer's.
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>>2453210
>all that pleb taste
Why are Anglos even talking about cuisine?
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>ancient kings would be LUCKY for the chance to pay shit tons of gold for a small bundle of pepercorns
>nowadays I can sprinkle as much pepper I want on my scrambled eggs every day and it costs me almost nothing

feels peppery man
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>>2453238
This guy gets it.
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>>2452194
>Never understood the fascination with the ass.
I shall explain it through 4chan's preferred medium:
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1488610347184.webm
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>>2453238
food is a big one. imagine having to eat nothing but potatoes and fish without seasoning or butter everyday for your entire life. I think at some point monarchs could at least have the luxury of lots of good food.
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>>2453223
You think seriously think swans and whole boars would be a king's average meal 200 years ago?
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>>2453238
but can you scour an empire for the perfect fuckboy and venerate him as a god
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>>2452196
says the virgin
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>>2452010
The problem is precisely that people DON'T feel better about their life even if the median person in the west has a life so luxurious that pretty much nobody could afford it in the past. Which means that all this obsession with achieving higher standards of comfort, wealth and so on are just a neurosis of the modern man.
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You not only live worse than kings, you probably live worse than medieval peasants as well.

>Before 1600, the average peasant was living very well. He was more free than is generally thought. He was living exactly the life to which today’s stockbrokers aspire: a big house in the country with horses, animals and land. It’s just that the peasant didn’t have to slave in the city from 7 a.m. every weekday to get it: he just had to work for a day or two each week on the manorial land. Every tenant peasant had his own arrangement with the manor house. Here are two thirteenth-century examples from Rowland Parker:

>Thomas Vaccarius holds 9 acres of land with a house, and he must do each year 100 days work, plough one acre and do carting service when required. He shall receive one hen, and shall mow and stack. His services are valued at 10s a year, and he pays a rent of 3d.

>John Aubrey holds 18 acres of land with a house, and he must do 52 days work a year, must plough for 2 days, do 2 boon-works at harvest, mow the meadow for 2 days, cart the hay, repair the roof of the hall, harrow the oat-land along with his fellows, and he shall receive one hen and 16 eggs. His services are valued at 9s 8d and he pays a rent of 2s 6d.

>Thomas Vaccarius paid a tiny fraction of his wages in rent for his nine-acre holding. He worked just two days a week. John Aubrey had eighteen acres of land and a job which only required him to work one day a week and which, in today’s values, pays him thirty grand a year (putting his rent at £7,000, a modest amount for such a considerable property). The rest of the time, John and Thomas would be working on their smallholdings and practising a craft or several crafts by which they earned more money. — Tom Hodgkinson

The only thing that's definitely better is medicine and healthcare nowadays, which might not even hold true for you depending on where you live as well as the health problems caused by modern technologies and pollution.
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>>2453962
>even if the median person in the west
This triggers the hoplite.
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>>2453992
this one was really good, anon
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>>2452707
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>>2453185
>Kindergarten book on culinairy history

That's the book between "Applied Astrophysics for toddlers" and "Nietschze's Bedtime Stories: God Is Dead" right?
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>>2452020
>everything that makes you happy is a sin
Christians are such spiteful people
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>>2452010
Nah. A life with Age of Consent laws isn't a life.
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>>2454180 how young of a girl do you really need? Having casual sex with 12 year olds is not your god given right. That being said what is the optimum age of a mother for maximizing offspring health. If i had a daughter i wouldnt let some man with intentions of casual sex around mg kid
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>>2454188
>2017
>Not educating your kids well enough to trust their own decisions.

Also, pic related is pic related.
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No you don't.
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>>2452010
>No sex
>No hunting
Sure thing, buddy.
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>>2453748
>You think seriously think swans and whole boars would be a king's average meal 200 years ago?
Well no, I'm pretty sure 19th century monarchs ate something like modern high cuisine. I was thinking much older.
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>>2452010
>no harem
>no 5 course made-from-scratch meals everyday
>no hunting
>no leading armies
>no giant troupe of world class entertainers to server my every need
>no people to write about me for the next hundred years
>no having any semplance of meaning in your life stemming from not living in a materialist country

haha... sure is nice to have air conditioning, am i right guys?
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>>2452010
>don't get to have slaves who do everything for you
>don't get to live in enormous, beautiful palaces
>don't get to kill and torture everyone you dislike
>don't get to fuck whatever you like
>don't get to beat your wife and children without repercussions
>don't get to raise a massive army and play god
>don't get to indulge in every imaginable activity you would like to indulge in
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But, although he recovered, the incident, which ended his jousting career, aggravated serious leg problems which plagued him for the rest of his life, and may well have caused an undetected brain injury which profoundly affected his personality, according to the History Channel documentary Inside the Body of Henry VIII ...Apr 17, 2009
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/7037298/A-banquet-for-Louis-XIV-recreated-at-the-Palace-of-Versailles.html

>Twenty or more not-so-dainty dishes would have been a typical evening repast for Louis XIV of France.

>Royal ballotine of pheasant
>Petit pâté en croûte à la bourgeoise
>Fresh deep-sea oysters
>Lobster aspic chaud-froid
>Beef madrilène with gold leaf spangles
>Pureed chestnut soup with truffles from the Court of Italy
>Bisque of shellfish from our coasts with a boletus infusion
>Pumpkin soup, fresh from the royal vegetable garden
>Scallops with oyster liquor
>Wild duck cromesquis à la Villeroy
>Hare stew
>Roast beef, carrots and smoked eel
>Wild salmon au sel
>[...]

>Within each service (except for the fruit course) there were between two and eight dishes. By the time Louis retired at 11.30pm, he would have eaten some 20 to 30 dishes, after which he would then pocket the candied fruit and nibble on a boiled egg as he made his way to bed.
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>>2454766

>The first dish, the pheasant, was a tribute to the Bourbons’ love of hunting, and its feathers were often used to decorate the dishes. The seafood illustrated the 'chasse-marées’ system, whereby sellers brought fish from the coast to the cities. Oysters principally came from St Malo and Cancale, while lobsters came from Normandy and reached Paris at about 4am. The purveyor then had to deliver the supplies to the palace by 5am (a system so stressful that one chef, François Vatel, impaled himself after a late delivery).

>'All our ingredients were sourced locally from the gardens of Versailles, Paris and nearby regions, just as they were at the time of Louis XIV
>Between 1678 and 1683, Louis’s gardener, Jean-Baptiste de la Quintinie, a former lawyer, established a vegetable garden that quickly became the pride of Versailles. Quintinie was adept at producing vegetables well in advance of the season and extending yields through the use of heated greenhouses and glass cloches, the creation of microclimates, pruning trees to maximise the exposure of fruit to sunlight, and selecting varieties through grafting.
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>>2453210
>Alcohol all the time because the water is shit

Sounds awful
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"We have ascertained beyond doubt that God is much rather displeased with the sacrifices you offer, the time of sacrifices having now passed away. And because you will not admit that the time for offering victims is past, therefore the Temple will be destroyed, and the abomination of desolation shall stand in the Holy Place." The Clementine Recognitions, chapters liii to lxxi.

Chapter XXII, 6 of the Clementine Homilies says "They followed the Apostles in their custom of daily lustrations. They refused to partake of flesh or wine, taking as their pattern, St. Peter, whose food was bread, olives, and herbs...."
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>>2454751
>implying kings did that 100 years ago
Perhaps in the orient. Not in the West.
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>>2454792
OP said "hundredS of years ago."

Though I'm not sure why oriental kings wouldn't count.
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>>2454121
Not necessarily. Sin is dangerous because it tempts us and deludes us from what is truly good. Otherwise we would all be living virtuous lives and there would be no reason for hardship. But I think hardship is one of the many things that can bring us closer to God, whether we know it or not.

Happiness is good and everyone should be given the chance to pursue it, but it shouldn't be the sole purpose for life. I think there are plenty of more important things.
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>>2452172
>No doubt of eternal paradise on death
Thats good because it comes at 33
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