Why were the finns so retarded? No one else in europe were uncivilised

>>2445548

What's the definition of civilized here?
Written language?

>>2445585
They didn't have that, they didn't have working infrastructure or anything resembling an advanced societu. There are no historical records about finnish culture and/or beliefs.

>>2445607

Well there were roads, villages, manufacture of wood and metal products and tight connections to international trade networks.
Nothing comparable to the Southern European civilization that Germanics had began to imitate though.

Scandinavians had been copycatting Italians even before Christian times.

>>2445647
Source?

>>2445655
Not him, but a Finn.
Vahtola, Jouko: Suomen historia
Rankama, Tuija & Kankaanpää, Jarmo 2007. ”The Earliest Postglacial Inland Settlement of Lapland
http://www.kansallismuseo.fi/fi/kansallismuseo/opetus/opetuspaketit/esihistoria/tietoa/vaesto
http://www.kansallismuseo.fi/fi/kansallismuseo/opetus/opetuspaketit/esihistoria/tietoa/luonto
http://www.kansallismuseo.fi/fi/kansallismuseo/opetus/opetuspaketit/esihistoria/tietoa/kivikausi
http://www.kansallismuseo.fi/fi/kansallismuseo/opetus/opetuspaketit/esihistoria/tietoa/pronssikausi
http://www.kansallismuseo.fi/fi/kansallismuseo/opetus/opetuspaketit/esihistoria/tietoa/rautakausi
http://www.mikroliitti.fi/aikakaa/aikakaaf.htm

Don't believe all the /int/ memes you hear m8. Pre-Swedish Finland had no written records but it had everything >>2445647 stated.

>>2445668
Finland also had """cities""" (nothing comparable to actual cities of the day, but trading towns existed) such as the "Varikonniemen rautakautinen asuinpaikka" and Turku for example pre-dates Swedes.

Also while Finns didn't have their own writing, they are mentioned several times in Viking and Novgorod sagas + papal letters.

>>2445690
Also pretty much every pre-crusade household in Finland that has been discovered has had traces of iron slag. This means that Iron production was pretty common in Finland.