>there are people who unironically believe "liberty" is more important then safety
>>2428267
>there are people who take ideological advice from Joseph fucking Stalin
>>2428267
Love this guy. Wrote the most "humanist" constitution in the world, nothing out of it was practiced in real life
>>2428273
whats wrong with Stalin?
Okay but hardly anyone under Stalin's rule had any safety whatsoever
>pic related
>>2428287
>criminals and traitours shouldn't be punished
>>2428289
>Implying those are Criminals and Traitors
>This quote coming from a man who killed tens of millions
>>2428297
>muh holdomor
>muh six gazillion kulaks
>>2428289
that stops working when you start to label everyone you don't like a criminal/traitor.
Friendly reminder that hierarchies and social classes are natural and needed in human society. All people are different, and many are better at some things than others.
Communism a shit, Stalin was a hypocrite.
>>2428302
>>dismissing mass slaughter of your own citizens as thought it were nothing.
Not doing yourself any favors here buddy.
>>2428337
thisx10
>>2428275
He was making a point about how pointless freedom on paper is.
>>2428339
>slaughter
it was a starvation because of bad crops.
Soviets where piss poor back then so they couldn't get them food. had the same shit happend 30 years later they would have afforded tofeed those people.
muh holdomor genocide is a myth by butthurt Ukrainians
>>2428566
KGB go back to fucking reddit.
>>2428327
Like 90% of all liberal regimes?
>>2428287
That pic is from 1921-22 during the Russian civil war.
>>2428267
If you want to be constantly guarded go to prison.
>>2428267
this so called true freedom, i.e. positive freedom should not be in opposition to negative freedoms.
>>2428680
But it is. Positive freedoms require someone else to provide them to you, which in turn means that negative freedoms must be infringed to secure them.
Negative freedoms, on the other hand, only require other people to leave you alone.
>>2428287
Stalin wasn't even in power when that photo was taken.
>>2428267
Those who would trade liberty for safety deserve neither
>>2428267
>Stalin
>fucking STALIN of all people talking about hungry people
>>2428289
>everyone i dont like is a criminal or a traitor
>>2428289
If you have 7 million traitors in your country then it's probably a shit country.
>>2430475
It was Russia to be fair.