Why hasn't the United States embraced its true nature as an imperial power yet?
>Trump gets assassinated
>Trumps adopted Jewish son in law become first Emperor of the USA
>???
>>2411922
The american citizenry is too soft, after the destruction of a political party can america only have a chance of becoming an empire
>>2411935
Who would sink the killing blow as Trump lay bleeding in congress?
Would Bannon be Mark Antony?
>>2411922
slightly off topic but that's actually a pretty sweet flag.
Would need a night of long knives and a unifying ideological sentiment that gains critical mass then just sort of rolls off the momentum from there. You'd have to have checkers board get its shit together. Can I just move to mars?
>>2411922
once we get rid of the republicans and establish that the "people" are in control . we can declare on whomever we please without the masses protesting
>>2411995
This. The Left is incredibly good at manipulating masses to do whatever they want.
>>2411922
This flag is uglier than the one already in use.
>>2412096
But why would the left ever pursue imperial ambitions? Their entire platform smacks of anti-imperialist rhetoric.
>>2412116
Because the current (new) left is becoming everything they preach against, and I don't see that ending any time soon.
>>2411972
Mike Pence
Marc Anthony == Banon who runs off to Europe to commandeer a race war
>>2412124
I'd rather not have an empire ruled by hypocrites, then.
At least the republicans support military buildup, which is one of the integral tenets of imperialism.
ITT: retards think empires are inherently autocratic
>>2411922
But it did? It's been an empire in all but name for damn near a century. We don't use the word empire because it has negative connotations.
>>2412139
we haven't gained a state in fucking decades bro
>>2412134
By definition, they are.
>>2412144
Never said it was (directly) expansionist.
>>2412155
you have a point , america occupies Afghanistan which has 90% of the worlds poppy fields which is used to make heroin
funny how were all suffering from an influx of cheap and plentiful heroin all of a sudden
>>2412146
have you ever heard of fucking ATHENS
>>2411922
Because the citizens are tired of paying to make generals rich.
>>2412144
Pleb doesn't know what a client state is...
>>2412169
Britain and France were both republics at the height of their colonial empires.
>>2411922
we have, since basically the Jefferson administration.
>>2412192
Britain was not. It was only a republic for a very brief period before the British colonialism was even in full swing.
During the height of the British empire in the interwar period it was a monarchy, hence the named United Kingdom.
>>2412155
we stopped because wealth stopped being about directly controlling territory.
>>2412190
>invades a country
>rebuilds it with taxpayer money
wow what a smart empire america is
>>2412201
fine...a liberal democratic constitutional monarchy where most power was tied to an elected legislature and citizens had expansive civil rights.
you fucking autist.
>>2412212
brilliant actually. Japan and Germany have been wonderful client states.
>>2412221
Yeah, how?
>>2412221
they are nothing but a drain , were still paying for their military protection
>>2411922
Rulers wear the target
Leaders direct the rulers
It's far better to be kingmaker than King
>>2412127
Why would a Jewish mouthpiece want a race war?
>>2412116
Hillary is pretty imperialist.
>>2412285
Pretty sure OP meant traditional European imperialism and colonialism, not neo-liberal progressive femperialism.
>>2411922
America was founded by people who wanted to get away from empires, and thankfully nobody has forgotten that yet.
>>2412282
Depends what your business is
>>2411935
We're only six civvy away from Emperor Mattis.
>>2412096
>implying all political spinsters haven't become superb at manipulating the public feeling
It's been a century since le Bon. All you need to start toying with the feelings of millions is a couple of good books and the willingness to learn.
>>2412729
>President Mattis
I wish a nigga would...
>>2411922
America is just a declining hegemon that enjoys a big military thanks to the second world war. American society is too individualistic and money obsessed to form an empire like Rome. All it would take to destroy America is preventing their populace from access to burgers and pornography. I cringe every time Americans liken themselves to Rome.
>>2412941
Couple that with America fighting wars on behalf of Israel, a strategically useless country. Americans are just cucks.
>>2411922
I don’t know why… we really should stop being the world policeman and just take it for ourselves.
>>2412967
>>2411922
One of the basic tenets of contemporary economic knowledge is that trade between partners is much more lucrative for everyone than wasting copious amounts of resources on trying to take things from each other by force. The US understands (understood) this quite well, this is why they play the world police. You can't dominate an entire planet through military might without destroying it completely. However, by keeping it relatively peaceful and open, you create the ideal circumstances for domination through trade.
That is why the US isn't a proper imperial power. To stay wealthy and powerful.
>>2412266
>how
Are you mentally impaired? Did you ever notice that both Japan and Germany are US allies that have thousands of US troops and shitloads of equipment stationed inside their countries?
>>2412276
That's the way it works. They do some shit for the US (Trade deals, harboring troops to increase our power in the region, backing us up on the world stage, providing material support when we ask for it), and in return they get protection.
>>2412967
>INGODWETRUSTINGODWETRUSTINGODWETRUST
>>2413041
Yeah protection from the US
>>2411922
The best empires are those that don't even know that they are empires. Nobody is being conquered, we are just building relationships and defending allies.
>>2411922
But they already did at the turn of the last century.
The American public has generally been largely against imperialism (At least outside of their own continent), and the few times they tried (Philippines) it was a complete disaster.