Help me understand the Falange /his/. From what I have read they

>>2405581
>Real fascism has never been tried

The Falange is really similar to Strasser's national socialism.

Remember that the Falange was pretty much the same as the anarcho-syndicalists except with catholic values and decency. Both of them seek to gain support from the syndicates but the FAI won so shit happened.

It's socialism/communism for only one nation with extra LARPing, disregarding the rest.

>>2405610
Also, because he was killed Franco took power and turned the Falange into a reactionary monarchist movement. It wasn't supposed to be like that.

There's a topic in spanish history that is about the involvement of the syndicalists in the fall of the Spanish Republic. That's because the Falange was supported by many syndicates, which didn't care being called leftists or right-wing.

>>2405628
So why is Syndicalism referred too as fascism when it's much more akin to some type of communism? Hell, the Falange flag's colors were even based off that of the anarchist C.N.T. And were they ever monarchist? The gist I got was that the monarchist of the Nationalist side were the Alfonsoist and the Carlist.

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>>2405581
National Syndicalism is essentially right wing communism. Except it works.
Josè stated a lot of times that he was sick of Capitalism but considered Communism a non option as well because it just doesn't work.
We've seen Anarcho-Syndicalism succeed in Catalonia(That is, if we're measuring success off of what we've seen from Communism, in that it is capable of working without the nation fucking collapsing in on itself with famines and poverty), and if an ideology can survive going through the political ringer of being bonded with Anarchism, it most certainly can work if it goes unfettered by the 'Anarcho-' prefix. Of course, it's unfair and wildly speculative to say this considering the fact that Catalonia was just a small region of Spain, and that we don't know if it would do the entirety of a country the same good it did for just a partial section of the country.

>>2405628
To add to this, Franco had embraced Capitalism, something the Syndicalists of the Falange never did and never would do. Franco didn't give a damn about the Falange and especially didn't care for Josè, a lot of dickhead Falangists now celebrate and honor Franco, and others reject him and all he stands for.

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>>2407276
In all honesty, Josè was a quixotic and somewhat naive man, he didn't know a lot about the world outside of studying law, Franco thought of him as a foolish, naive playboy, someone who liked to wear fancy outfits, come up with designs for flags, throw around bold words like "Fascism" and give rallying speeches but didn't know how to do anything outside of that.
A lot of his speeches just sort of consisted of him preaching nebulous things, he essentially would talk a lot but would say very little.
Josè didn't really have any unique thoughts to offer, he just saw Syndicalism essentially could serve as a full replacement to Capitalism and decided to champion it.

>>2407276
Don't get sucked into the fake right left dichotomy.

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>>2407284
If the Catalonians were Anarcho-Syndicalist, then why did they fight against the Falange rather than join them? It would seem that instead of joining either the Nationalist side or the Republican side, both of which had no real interest in Syndicalism, it would be better to form a third Syndicalist front? And that sorta ties it back to why they are considered Fascist, what made them different from the C.N.T or the communist if what they wanted was essentially the same?

>>2407368
>If the Catalonians were Anarcho-Syndicalist, then why did they fight against the Falange rather than join them?
I always just thought the Nationalists were doing most of the fighting against Catalans, but the thing was Falangists fucking hated Anarchists and Separatists.
Josè once wrote, I can't remember where, possibly in the twenty-seven points that national separatism is not to be tolerated in any way. The Catalans wanted independence, or at least wanted much more moving and shaking power for the Generalitat of Catalonia(which they had a lot of, far more jurisdiction for their region than any other had). This notion is bound to be taken offense to by Fascists, which the Falangists were.
>And that sorta ties it back to why they are considered Fascist, what made them different from the C.N.T or the communist if what they wanted was essentially the same?
Anarcho-Syndicalism is different from National because of the presence of the state. Firebrand anarchists aren't going to get along with a group that unapologetically champions fascism and emphasizes the role of the state in economic affairs(Falange wanted banks nationalized) and all other facets of power, even if they do have similar ideas about how to run a country.
Falangists had no interest in accomodating Communism much less Anarcho-Communism in any way because of their right wing status, and likewise the C.N.T. had no interest accommodating Ultra-Statists, which the Falangists were.
That's all I really know about the subject, you should check with someone else, I might not be correct on a few things, I just know a lot about pre-Franco Falange and Josè, I sort of stopped learning about them in the Civil War.

>>2405610
>LARPing
There's this idiot meme word again