Why do white Buddhists get such a bad rep when there were white

Because they're not the same white people. Why should they have a good rep?

>>2397976
Because Buddhism is pretty cool. White people are pretty cool.

How can two cool things at once be a bad thing?

>>2397979
well, two wrongs don't make a right

>>2397966

DEFINE "WHITE".

>>2397966
No has a issue with European people who practice Buddhism. People make fun of stupid people in the west who only achieve a most basic understanding of Buddhism and think it makes them enlightened. Basically it is the same reason people make fun of weebs, or in a history board Byzantineboos.

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How come people be this delusional?
this post came from the same site that mock Greeks and Meds as Arab rape baby daily, and consider the whole ME as "shitskin", yet a group of Greek-Persian-Indian mix people are considered white?

The whitest Indo Greek probably resemble modern Iranians anyway than typical "white" people

>>2398027
I never said Indo-Greeks are white. I said there were white Buddhists in ancient times.

Which there probably were, given the amount of Indo-Greeks about it could only be expected that some of them were significantly more Greek than Indo.

>>2398027
Those are Egyptians on the pictures.

>>2398060

NOONE WILL TAKE ANYTHING THAT YOU POST SERIOUSLY AS LONG AS YOU KEEP EARNESTLY AND IGNORANTLY USING THE TERM "WHITE".

>>2398073
Shut the fuck up you autistic beaner, stop being jealous of white people.

>>2398076
>NOONE WILL TAKE ANYTHING THAT YOU POST SERIOUSLY AS LONG AS YOU KEEP EARNESTLY AND IGNORANTLY USING THE TERM "WHITE".
>stop being jealous of white people.

HURR

>>2398073
The question is an inherently cultural one.

We all know what I mean by "white people" whether or not this is a meaningful concept is irrelevant as society acts as if it were anyway. Without describing this set of people as "white" there would be no other way to really put the question.

>Why do ??? Buddhists get such a bad rep when there were ??? Buddhists long, long before there were ??? Christians

As you can see that makes no sense.

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>>2398076

>>2398100
>Greeks aren't white
>only Scandinavians are white
How is morning in Tel Aviv?

>>2397997
True.

People who get mocked are new age-zen-conciousness peddlers who scam gullible sods

>>2398096
>Without describing this set of people as "white" there would be no other way to really put the question.

YOU ONLY THINK THAT BECAUSE YOU CANNOT CONCEIVE OF A WAY OF THINKING, AND ARTICULATING, WITHOUT THOSE SPURIOUS NOTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN INSTILLED IN YOU.

THE QUESTION DOES NOT MAKE SENSE WITHOUT THE WORD "WHITE" IN THERE, BECAUSE THE QUESTION ITSELF IS FLAWED, SINCE YOU CONSTRUCTED IT AROUND THE SPURIOUS NOTION OF "WHITENESS".

I WOULD SUGGEST A BETTER QUESTION, BUT SINCE I DO NOT KNOW WHO, OR WHAT, DO YOU MEAN BY "WHITE BUDDHISTS", AND "WHITE CHRISTIANS", I AM CURRENTLY UNABLE.

THE CATEGORIES OF "WHITE", AND "BLACK", ARE NOT RACIAL, BUT SOCIOLOGICAL; THEY WERE FABRICATED BY SLAVERS IN THE EIGHTEENTH CENTURY C E TO SOW DISCORD AMONG THE ENSLAVED, PRECLUDING THEM FROM UNITING.

>>2398120
>BUT SOCIOLOGICAL;
Exactly, it's a sociological thread.

>>2398125
...

Uuggg... Someone remind me how to filter out individual namefags... I'm not even giving him a (you).

>>2398139
Don't filter him. That way you may actually learn something if you read his posts.

sage for shit thread, and faggot OP.

>>2398178
Samefag

>>2398139
Define white, OP.

>>2397979
Greeks aren't white.

>>2397966
There were white pedophiles long before Christianity, so whats your point?

>>2397966
Zoroastrianism blocked Buddhism from reaching Europe. Therefore Europeans, the group traditionally called white, did not absorb that religion until culture became globally open to research.

>>2398027
Those paintings are from Egypt dude.

>>2398247
People of indigenous European descent including Greeks.

>>2397966
>Why do white Buddhists get such a bad rep
It's just McDonalds Baptists getting mad at their college age kids rebelling against their overly restrictive upbringing.

>>2398531
>Zoroastrianism blocked Buddhism from reaching Europe
Yeah, but it didn't stop Europeans from reaching Buddhism.

AY YO HOL UP

WE
WUZ
ENLIGHTENED
N SHIT

Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.

Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies.

>>2398120
stop writing in caps you turbocunt if I ever find you irl I'll castrade you make you eat your remain jesus fucking christ die already!

>>2398531
It didn't. Buddhism reached Europe, too, just in numbers too few to make it a viable religion in Europe.

>>2398639
Yet they, most likely, depict people of Greek descent.

>>2397966
Buddhists even don't have Caucasian-like statues, Duddhism still religion of Asians.

>>2400101
Yeah, and pretty much every painting of Jesus makes him look like a white-boy.

Doesn't invalidate the fact that Brown Christians are as old as Christianity itself.

Fun fact: Buddha himself was white

>>2400113
>le blue maymay
This is the logic WEWUZKANGZ hoteps use for claiming Jesus was black.

>>2400126
But Jesus was black.

>>2400131
>he had tan feet
Welp that solves it then.

>>2400113
WE WUZ BUDDHA N SHIEET

>>2400126
PROVE that high caste individuals were already mixed with Dravidians in 500 B.C.

>>2400137
We wuz tho

>Golden-hued body
>Eyes deep blue
>The lines on his palms have a rosy tint.
>His hair has long curls.

Buddha sounds 100% Aryan.

>>2400136
>and His feet were like unto burnt brass, His head and His hairs were white like wool, as white as snow
Sounds like Morgan Freeman tbqh.

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>>2400158
Lots of people have those features senpai. basal level relation does not imply descent from said group. Some greeks have blonde hair; doesnt mean they were nords. Some Ethiopians are light. Doesnt make them Arab. Some Egyptians are very dark; doesn't make Egyptians black. And so on

>>2400149
Prove they weren't lel.

>>2400180
Yeah, and people with those features are called white people.

If we accept that "whiteness" is an entirely cosmetic attribute it's inescapable that Buddha is white based on that description.

So far I've heard asian people claim buddha based on location and skin tone, white people claim buddha based on eye color and caste, indian people claim buddha based on culture and location, and lastly even black people claiming him based on the fact that he had curly hair.
Has there been a more contested person racially?

>>2400158
>>Golden-hued body
okay so yellow? This doesn't say anything about actual skin pigmentation; only that he has a glow.

>>Eyes deep blue
Lots of people have blue eyes.

>The lines on his palms have a rosy tint.
I have this and I'm not white.

>>His hair has long curls.
lots of people have this.

>>2400198
If thats the case, then yes. By that logic, most Ancient Egyptians would also fit the broad category of "black". But just like how the actual Egyptians dont have relation to blacks, groups of people who look "white" still have nothing to do with Western Europeans or American whites. In other words, we shouldnt try to put people in our team just because they share our features.

>>2400234
>okay so yellow? This doesn't say anything about actual skin pigmentation; only that he has a glow.
His glow was described elsewhere. That is commenting on his skin pigmentation.

Coupled with the fact he has blue eyes, curly hair and rosy palms he sounds pretty white.

>Lots of people have blue eyes.
Overwhelmingly white people, some of which live and have historically lived in India.

>I have this and I'm not white.
Obviously, but you're missing the forest for the trees. That people with all of those features at once tend to be white.

>lots of people have this.
So they do, but East Asians absolutely do not.

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>>2400221
>Has there been a more contested person racially?
Jesus

>>2397992
Define "lower case" first.

>>2400242
>groups of people who look "white" still have nothing to do with Western Europeans or American whites
They do though. Indo-Europeans come from a common source.

Of course no European alive is descended from the Buddha, but that's not the point since it's not about claiming the Buddha for anyone's team. It just shouldn't be any controversy to acknowledge that he looked a certain way.

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>>2400250
>So they do, but East Asians absolutely do not.
No one thinks Buddha was an East Asian. He was an Indian prince so probably the same stock as pic-related. Modern North-Indians probably have the greatest claim to him racially though it was East Asia that really internalized his teachings.

>>2400258
I feel using the term "European" is both anachronistic and on a subconscious level makes you want to put him on our "white" camp. I'm not saying you're necessarily doing it consciously, but I do think there is some subconscious we-wuzzing happening. Ultimate, terms like "black" and "white" tend to do more harm than good when talking about pre-colonial history.

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>>2400318
I'm not using the term "European", I'm using the term "Indo-European". Which isn't anachronistic at all.

>>2400092
Eh? Greeks were always a tiny minority in Egypt ethnically. Even in alexandria we weren't the majority.

>>2398027

>lol what was central asia

>>2400182

>what is burden of proof

>>2400171

>he uses a bad translation
>he doesn't know brass inside a furnace glows brilliantly
>LOL WE WUZ AMIRITE

faggot

>>2400234
>Lots of people have blue eyes.

the vast majority of people on earth do not, what are you smoking?

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>>2400409
>bad translation

This is a Muslim-tier argument.

>>2398178

You only need to see one of his posts to learn everything you need to know about him, ie, that he is mentally retarded and so anything he says is irrelevant and probably wrong.

>>2400423

protestant splinter groups constantly change and warp the translation of the bible to dodge copyright laws so they can make money selling bibles to other more naive protestants

sometimes Muslims are actually right

>>2400438
That part is from the KJV.

>>2400423
Not him but some translations are absolutely awfully wrong and often intentional

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>>2400126

You realise that we have written accounts of Buddha, right? His skin was "golden-hued", he had black hair, and he had deep blue eyes. He'd probably look a lot like any modern high-caste northern Indian.

>>2400463
>KJV
>Revelation 1:14
>His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

dude uh, maybe recheck that before you embarrass yourself again.

also

>not the Vulgate

pls

>>2400242

Why is it so hard to believe that a man with an Aryan name, born among the (Aryan) ruling class of a society, and whose physical description is of an Aryan, was, in fact, Aryan? What else could he have been? A Mlechcha, like Krishna? With blue eyes, and light skin?

>>2400490
>dude uh, maybe recheck that before you embarrass yourself again.
But that's the part I quoted from the translation I said I quoted it from.

>>2400508
WE WUZ BUDDAH GUYS

WE WUUUUZZZ CUZ NAAAAAMMMEEE

>dravidian rape bladda
>ever white

let me guess, haplogroup map time? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>2400488
>Every hair-root dark colored

fixd

>>2400520

Are you a moron? Serious question.

>>2400546

So that's yes to being a moron. Go google the word "Aryan".

>>2400519

let's compare your quote to the actual text

actual text

>His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

your quote

>and His feet were like unto burnt brass, His head and His hairs were white like wool, as white as snow

hmmmmmm

>burnt brass
>fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace

notice anything? I'll bet you're black nationalist too.

>>2400551
WE WUZ CUZ VEDIC MYTHS GUYYSSS

WE WUZ CUZ NAAAAAMMMEESSS

EVERYONE WHO EVER DID ANYTHING WAS WHIIITTEE CUZ I SAID SO

NO NOBODY COULD EVER INTERBREED NO WHITE PEOPLE ARE PURRRREEE AND NEVER FUCK NIGGERS LOOOOOOOL

>poo in the loos

>>2400560

I know, reading is hard. Better to just keep making a fool of yourself.

>>2400560
>>2400546
>>2400520

>white people never existed or did anything outside of Europe

you're actually worse than the revisionists, you're trying to erase history.

>>2400242
No, you are completely wrong. Aesthetically ancient Egyptians did not look like "Blacks" as their facial structure is completely different and Caucasian. "Black" refers to Africans, with the race being named "Black" after their dark skin colour. Dark skin isn't the only criteria to be or look Black however. This can be confusing as some people will use the term "black" (lower case b) to simply refer to the skin colour itself. Racially however, nobody would argue Egyptians look "Black" (with a capital B to denote the race which is confusingly named after a colour). The same applies to Whites, who are named after a colour even though that's not the only criteria to be OR look White. For example an Albino Black does not be or look White aesthetically whatsoever. A pale Arab however might look White as he is a Caucasian and has fair-skin. Whether that Arab is white or not though depends on your definition. Some definitions of White are pale skinned Caucasians with European ancestry, with other definitions pertaining to any pale-skinned Caucasian. I'm going off-topic though.

A better example would be Blacks and Aborigines. Very unrelated but could reasonably be mistaken for one another. Even then though, the differences in facial features are quite significant.

>>2400546
this.
it gets so tiring listening to white people and their delusions of grandeur

>>2400557
Substantially, how are those different?

>burnt brass
>burned brass
In either case both describe previously burned brass as opposed to presently burning brass.

>I'll bet you're black nationalist too.
I'm not even black or Christian.

>>2400591
>burned brass

how can you be this retarded as to misquote the same text, not once but twice after it has been explicitly pointed out to you?

AS IF THEY BURNED IN A FURNACE

THIS IS PRESENT TENSE

THE PASSAGE IS MEANT TO CONVEY AN IMAGE OF BRASS BURNING INSIDE A FURNACE

AS IN

"THE BRASS BURNED INSIDE THE FURNACE"

YOU HAVE A THIRD GRADE READING LEVEL

>>2400604

I'm sure you think you're "zinging" us with your wit, but really it's just baffling. I can only imagine you think you're on stromfront or plebbit or something. But don't let me stop you being a fool.

>>2400604
>INVASION MYTHS

oh so you're an Indian nationalist.

No wonder why you're so butthurt, your nation state is a fabrication.

>strawmans

>>2400627
>>2400621
WAAAAHH GENOMICS HURTS MY FEE FEES AND MY WHITE NATIONALIST BULLSHIT MYTHS

>Even though there is a continued debate on the Aryan migration into India, detectable gene flow from west Eurasia has been shown by many studies[13, 16, 23, 24, 30, 31, 32, 44, 51, 53]. Interestingly, we have detected gene flow from the west prior to the Aryan invasion[30, 32]. There is now universal agreement that various Indian populations share a common late Pleistocene maternal and paternal ancestry, along with detectable east and west Eurasian ancestries[31, 54]. Using hundreds of thousands of autosomal markers, we illustrated that the Indian populations have two major distinct ancestry components; one restricted to southern India, the second one restricted to the northern region of India[30, 32]. It is noteworthy that both of the ancestry components show higher haplotypic diversity than those predominant in west Eurasia[32]. This rejects the idea of an Aryan invasion/migration and suggests an ancient demographic history and/or higher long-term larger effective population size in India than in west Eurasia.

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>>2400616
>THIS IS PRESENT TENSE
No it isn't.

>burned
>present tense
shiggy

>>2400604

lol Tamerlane

>genetics don't change over time, information is never lost, populations never shift or fail to pass on their lineage en masse

>>2400642

I just gave you an example of a present tense statement using the word "burned".

Kill yourself troll.

>>2400646
WE WUZ GUYS WE WUUUZZZZ

>It is striking that the tribals do not possess U2e, and have the highest frequency of U2i. The gradations in frequencies (Figs. 1 and 2) of HG-M, particularly of subHG-M2, and also of HG-U, notably the absence of U2e among tribals, indicate that (1) tribals are more ancient than the castes,(2) there has been considerable admixture with Central and West Asians during the formation of the caste system, and (3) many new female lineages were introduced by the IE speakers.

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>>2400653
>I just gave you an example of a present tense statement using the word "burned".
No that was a past tense statement. "Burned"= past tense, "burn"= present tense. What kind of mental gymnastics does it take to deny this?

>>2400642
>>2400616

The passage actually says
>kai hoi podes autou homoioi chalkolibano hos en kamino
>chalkolibano
>fine bronze
>hos en kamino
>as in a furnace

No mention of "burned" or "burnt", the meaning is of molten bronze which fits the fiery eyes and hair like ash. metaphors, people.

>>2400654

>genetics is a settled field, this interpretation is absolute truth and is no way influenced by politics

I wish you could be honest with yourself. Go ahead and pretend the entire northern half of the subcontinent wasn't systematically genocided.

Conclusions of this thread:
Buddha was white.
Jesus was black.
/his/ was a mistake

>>2400661

you are actually on the same level as an elementary school child, you should feel ashamed

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>>2400678

>>2400664
>>>2400642
>>2400616
>chalkolibano

Also this term is used only here in Revelations, its translation as "fine bronze / brass" is ancient but etymologically it could just as well mean "glowing bronze".

>>2400668
WE WUZ GUYS WE WUZ LET ME FIELD THIS CREDULOUS HYPOTHESIS WITH NO PHYSICAL OR GENETIC EVIDENCE TO BACK IT CUZ I SAID

WE WUUUZZ WHIITTTEE

seriously where did all the """"""aryan""""""" indian nationalists come from? i know you all want to pretend to be stormfags but just lol

everything is a genocide to you nu-males regardless fucking lmao

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>>2400681

I was insulting you, not making an argument. Let me explain the difference.

"You are retarded."

Is an insult.

"You are retarded, and therefore wrong."

Is a fallacious argument, retard.

>>2400703
>"I was just shitposting guys, that makes it better than fielding a bullshit argument!"

When did this become an accepted excuse to reddit spacers on 4chan?

>>2400700
>""""""aryan""""""" indian nationalists

that's the opposite of what indian nationalists think

>LOL WE WUZ STORMFAGS BTFO

this is how you hide the enormity of your ignorance.

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>>2400703
>I was . . . not making an argument

Clearly

>>2400707

dude I've posted like this

>>2400707
not like this

>>2400707

like this on 4chan for easily seven years now. I've never posted a thing on reddit in my entire life and never will.

>>2400713
t. Aayush Preshveeda

WE WUZ GUYS CUZ I SAID SO

ARGUMENTS? WUTS THAT LOOOO I JUST HAVE SHITPOSTING CUZ THIS IS /HIS AND I NEED NO STUDIES OR ARGUMENTS OR EVDIENCE TO BACK MUH FEEELSIES UP

>>2400723
>like this on 4chan for easily seven years now
You'd think then that you'd know how to quote other posts properly.

>>2400723
>2010fag

get out

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>>2400735
>>2400737
no
>>2400725

>>2400759
Is that you right now you big gay faggot?

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>>2400764

no this

>>2400488
>golden-hued
>white
nordcucks ladies and gentlemen

>>2399792
Europe is an arbitary definition

>>2400419
Aishwarya Rai, a south indian Tuluva had blue eyes, both her parents are dark sinned. The gene for it exists in india, Hrithik Roshan, another actor has green eyes.

Both are nowhere close to white and will always be identified as indian.

>>2400604
>Males from dominant populations, possibly upper caste, mated outside of their caste, but their offspring were not allowed to be inducted into the caste.

Doesn't this show that the Aryan elite stayed rather pure for a long time?

>>2398120
Dude, the caps lock button id below tab and above left shift, please use it.

>>2400804
>only albinos are white!

You stupid bastard. Greeks aren't pasty but they're white, Arabs aren't pasty but they're white, the Buddha wasn't pasty but he was white.

>>2401200

Why would you even waste your time replying to an obvious mental retard? You realise this makes YOU the idiot? He has severe mental retardation, what's your excuse?

>>2400092
>>2400348
>Greek
lol, I'm North African and one of those guys looks almost exactly like me

>>2397966
The only White Buddhists were the Tocharian, who don't exist anymore.

>>2400021

>>2402554
Gautama Buddha was white

WE

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>>2401102
Pic is north indians in himachal state

>>2397966
Maybe it was all the molestation of boys.
You think this might have had something to do with it. Females--and some males--get rather feisty and angry if their children are raped.

>>2400804
>Not being able to tan yourself to the point where you look like a golden god
Not white confirmed

>>2404565
WE
WUZ
INDIANS
IN
SHIET

>>2397966
Because they're not the same people. Modern white buddhists are faggots.

>>2398027
And what part of the Roman Empire were these frescoes from? I'm willing to bet it was from Africa or the Middle East.