"you" dont exist. What you identify as "yourself"

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Literally the only true thing you said is that the Self is empirically a collection of ever-shifting inter-connected components not an unchanging personality.

Everything else is just mystic hoodoo.

>>2396904
really makes u think

Really fired up my synapses

>>2396915
no.

>>2396931
yes

you're taking the whole self thing too seriously
its just an idea to partially explain/characterize a phenomenon

>>2396941
Yeah in reality. But that's not what the mass majority of people understand it as.

>>2396934
I dont think you read too well, I said "no".

>>2396952
And I said yes.

>>2396904
The life choices you make can be traced back to fundamental underlying rationale that functions the same way as math.

If you spend your whole life making evil choices you might be surprised where that leads you.

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>>2396947
who cares how the mass majority does anything, especially how they understand

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>>2396960
>evil
>choices

>>2396968
Keep killing for power and you might be surprised what real power looks like.

Saying this doesn't solve the issue of how there is an "agent" perceived as an essential part of some motions(conscious motions).

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>>2396960
>evil

>>2396953
.....you win this round, asshole.

>>2396904
If I do not exist then how can any of the conclusions I draw or observations I make be correct?

>>2396904
what are they being collected IN?

After all, the use of a jar is in its emptiness.

>>2396981
Why dont you debate

>>2396993
Because it's not you, the idea of yourself, that makes these. It's the formulaic reactions to external stimuli based on the lifetime of observing cause and effect, which in no way need you to exist to be correct.

>>2397000
tres zen.

What a mystery!

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>>2396904

>>2397000
It's collected into a form. After all, matter can not exist without form

>>2397026
As if there were no perceiving subject

>>2397115
oui

>>2397026
How do I know this though if I do not exist? If I am an illusion then the only objective experience I can positively encounter (the sense of self) is invalid, therefore any experiences this illusionary self experiences become illusions and therefore invalid as well.

>It's the formulaic reactions to external stimuli based on the lifetime of observing cause and effect, which in no way need you to exist to be correct.
Sounds like I'm am unnecessary redundancy then.

>>2397031
Taoism actually

Zen is MUCH more fun

>>2397081
I thought matter and energy were equivalent and that energy was formless.

>>2396904

>"you" dont exist.

I am a separate distinct thing from anything else in existence. This is a provable fact as far as anything is provable. I may not be 100% unique, but that does not mean I do not exist.

>When you dream who is it that witnesses the dream?

Me. How is that a serious question?

>>2396904
>"yourself" is only a collection of experiences

then what is the thing that is experiencing?

>who's the Watcher? It's the real you

oh so "you" does exist

get your fucking terms straight scrub

>>2397161
It's not "the sense of self" though. It's a sense of an agent which is not necessarily contingent on any physical form.

>>2397186
>It's a sense of an agent which is not necessarily contingent on any physical form.
A soul?
Sounds awfully metaphysical.

>>2397193
No, there is only one agent.

>>2397201
Prove it.

>>2397210
Try to imagine there being more than one agent.

You can't, therefore there is only one. "Singular" is an empirical property of the agent.