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Was 1950's/60's Germany basically a NatSoc paradise?

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Was 1950's/60's Germany basically a NatSoc paradise?

>ethnically homogenous
>strongly conservative society
>Christian
>very anticommunist; the communist party is banned
>booming industry and economy
>government and elite basically made up of ex-Nazis
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>>2393497
NatSoc is primarily about economics, why do retards think than NatSoc is just "nationalism"?

>unironicalky using the word nazi
Back to raddit
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>>2393497
>ethnically homogenous

Half the pop was made of Russian rape babbies
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>>2393497

I'm going to be generous and assume you meant West Germany.
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>>2393497
>strongly conservative society
>Christian

These are not Nazi. The rest was rather common.
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>>2393502
>>2393504
oh to be a teanager again
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>>2393502
>unironicalky using the word nazi

>Unironically can't spell unironically
>Unironically gets butthurt when someone uses correct terminology
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>>2393513
>a slur
>correct terminology
Kill yourself
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>>2393504
I meant west germany, not the russian occupied east.

>>2393506
>communist party is banned

no shit, how'd you tell?
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>>2393516

Okay, anon. My death is on your hands.
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>>2393512
Not an argument idiot. It's like retards who say zionism/israelism is Jewish national socialism. What the fuck is NS about it? It's just nationalism. This is what happens when leftist propaganda rots your brain to the point every form of nationalism is literally Hitler to you.
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>>2393519
>no shit, how'd you tell?

Don't be cheeky. You should have said West Germany.
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>>2393516
No one really knows its a slur at this point. Also plenty of slurs became correct terminology.

Calling the ideology as it was called by it's proponents, "National socialism", is misleading.
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>>2393531
>calling the DPRK the DPRK is misleading
>we need to call them dog eating commie gook homos like proper academic rigor requires
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>>2393512
My post just observes yours. Both quoted posts are so childish it hurts
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>>2393502
Nazi government had practically no economic platform other than >use all the moneys to buy armaments.
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>>2393525
misquoted. See here: >>2393534
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>>2393497

You forgot the part where the Allied provisional government banned Germans from complicated work and imported Turks to rebuild between 45 to the 49.
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>>2393525
nsdap literally started off as the "german worker's party". It was a left wing socialist party that happened to hate Jews. Hitler came along and started talking about "expanding eastwords" and colonising the east to get them in bed with the german nationalists and monarchists, then he got rid of the left wing of the party (reohm, strasser, goebbels). Well he didn't get rid of goebbels but he bent him to his will.
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>>2393538
You mean the part that never happened?
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>>2393538
you funny Mehmet
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>>2393540
And what the hell does any of that have to do with BRD?
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>>2393533

DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS
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>>2393548
I don't even know what that means.
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>>2393550

IT's just empty rhetoric. It usually some self flagellating kraut or ignorant anglo praising a war criminal.
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>>2393533
>Missing the point entirely
DPRK is called DPRK because it's an institution with an official name. It's ideology is called 주체. It is a fitting name, no other political parties use it and no one calls it any different.
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Don't know but here's what it looked like on a weekend night.
https://youtu.be/EvVRoA2DgIs
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>>2393559
>official name
Exactly. I missed when the NSDAP called themselves "nazis".
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>>2393497
Eastern Germany maybe. Western Germany was degeneracy central.
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>>2393569
NSDAP is a political party, not the ideology.
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>>2393574
The ideology was called national socialism.
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>>2393569

This is a pamphlet from Goebbels.

https://archive.org/details/GoebbelsJoseph-DerNazi-sozi-FragenUndAntwortenFuerDen
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>>2393497
Going by superficial standards, the DDR itself was a NatSoc paradise.
They even had similarities in uniforms and military parades.

The problem with modern Westerners thinking "conservative" and "nationalist" just means supporting the nuclear family, being ethnically homogeneous and waving your country's flag during parades, is that it puts most communist societies in that category also.
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>>2393576
And more commonly and correctly "Nazism".
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>>2393608
>correctly
What did he mean by this
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>>2393610
Try dictionary
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ITT: anglos and other ausländers mainly concerned with Uncle Adi's cock and their own edginess. >>2393583
Like you could read Fraktur. If you could you would have noticed that neither the word nazi nor sozi is on your linked pages.
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>>2393497
Since Ludwig Erhard largely liberalised the economy, I don't think you could say postwar Germany was another era of National Socialism.

Pretty much every other non-communist country in Europe was ethnically homogenous, conservative by today's standards, Christian and everything else you listed apart from being made up of ex-Nazis.

The bureaucracy was sure made up of some ex-Nazis, however almost none of the politicians in government or the elite were.
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>>2393617

I know, it's still the original title given to it by Goebbels though.

You're welcome to go and look it up for yourself if you don't believe the citation I have already given you.
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>>2393628
Page please.
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>>2393642

It's at the top. That's what title means.
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>>2393645
Why direct everone to a specific page in the first place then. Did you want to prove that a nazi used the word nazi? (whoa, really?)
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>>2393647

I'm not sure what you're so mad about. Someone asked whether the Nazis ever used the word Nazi, so I provided them a primary source.

I'm not sure what you are on /his/ for if you have some massive issue with discussing historical questions and sources.
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>>2393591
but communists hated the nuclear family, the organised everything into communes, not to mention they destroyed Christian life and tried to push the atheism meme.
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>>2393651
I already stated what I am on about >>2393617
Do you read Fraktur or not? Your jewing around (to use some natsoc terminology) is quite annoying.
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>>2393665

I already agreed that it's only used in the title.
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>>2393664
Initially, the Soviets did want to reorganize the family life in favour of a more commune approach. However, when Stalin came to power he purged the (((progressive communists))) and implemented traditional policies, turning family into the building block of the socialist state and the mother an honorable person who would give birth to new workers.

http://blogs.bu.edu/guidedhistory/russia-and-its-empires/chelsea-adler/
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>>2393667
Closed question. Options are Ja or Nein.
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>>2393695

Nein. And I never claimed to.
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>>2393698
Why though? It's a hard to read font, but it's not impossible to read.
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>>2393591
Neither Russia nor China are ethnically homogeneous.
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>>2393704

I've had a look through the English translation. I can't speak German.
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>>2393664
Basically what >>2393690 said, they had to support the nuclear family eventually because it was more pragmatic.

>>2393720
The point was more about smaller communist countries like in Eastern Europe or North Korea.

The USSR and China were multi-ethnic but even they tried to create and enforce a common national identity and pursued their own national interest.
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>>2393512
Holy shit, this lack of self awareness.
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>>2393591
>The problem with modern Westerners thinking "conservative" and "nationalist" just means supporting the nuclear family, being ethnically homogeneous and waving your country's flag during parades, is that it puts most communist societies in that category also.


That's not what either word means in Western thinking.

Conservative means to have socially conservative values, people who are conservative tend to also be nationalist but they are not the same thing.

Being nationalist means taking pride in your country.

Being obsessed with being ethnically homogeneous is ethno-nationalism often bleeding into neo-nazism. It's only ethno-nationalists who try and shorten this to just 'nationalism' and conflate the two concepts.
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they inherited the benefits of fascism without having to actually be fascist, kind of like a playboy pissing away an inheritance when he should be getting his CFA
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>>2393797
Akshually nationalism is not as much connected to a country as much as it is to the nation and it's lot more complicated than just mere pride.
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>>2393839
akshually nationalism is literally the revolutionary force of not wanting a habsburg cousin to tell you what to do
it has no other purpose or meaning
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>>2393721
>I can't speak German but let me tell you about German national socialism and its proper terminology
Americans were a mistake
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>>2393591
>>2393797
>Being obsessed with being ethnically homogeneous is ethno-nationalism often bleeding into neo-nazism.

No, you misunderstood that one maybe because I didn't explain it in detail.
When I said ethnically homogeneous i meant that as a description of the country not an actual political goal.
It's more like your average young American going
>X East-European country is 90% X ethnicity, they must be super based hardcore ethno-nationalists

When in fact that's just because that country wasn't economically attractive to migrants.
People mistake certain things for nationalism.
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