"Beware of Jewish fables" Titus 1:14 What did

"and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth."

It means what it says. Do not pay attention to false teachings or orders from non christians.

>>2390553
so he's saying to ignore the pope?

>>2390506
He, himself, was Jewish tho... wtf!!

>>2390972
Yes

>>2390990
He was Christian, Shlomo. You should try it some time.

>>2390506
That Jesus really survived the crucifiction and escaped?

That the OT is bs and the Gnostics dindu nothing wrong (Paul himself being one).

>>2391492
Probably this. Actually Catholics and Orthodox have more in common with Gnostics than Jews.

>>2391481
>>2391492
(You)

>>2391499
>>2391500
Fun fact: Paul never really talks about a bodily crucifixion, but a spiritual or symbolic one.

>Rom.6[6] We know that our old self was crucified with him so that the sinful body might be destroyed, and we might no longer be enslaved to sin.

>Gal.2[20] I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me

>Gal.5[24] And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

The Gnostics maintained that Jesus was not bodily crucified.

Paul also uses gnostic terms such as archons and aeons.

>1Cor.2[2] None of the rulers (archons) of this age (aeon) understood this; for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of g

>>2391539
Absolutely no one who has ever actually read Paul could fall for this drivel

>>2391543
>Literally muh feelings
Uh, okay.

>>2391549
Colossians 2:9, friend.

>Colossians 2:9, friend.
>For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
Uh that verse is relevant to the discussion because...?

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>>2391590

◄ 2 Peter 3:16 ►
New International Version
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Colossians 2:9 is not incompatible with any gnostic belief that I know of.

god bless saint paul. judaizers will forever hate him.

>>2391604
On the contrary, even.

For in Christ all the fullness (pleroma) of the Deity lives in bodily form,

http://biblehub.com/text/colossians/2-9.htm

Gnostics believed that the Pleroma was the spiritual world of light whence Christ came.

>Pleroma (Greek πλήρωμα) generally refers to the totality of divine powers. The word means fullness from πληρόω ("I fill") comparable to πλήρης which means "full",[1] and is used in Christian theological contexts: both in Gnosticism generally, and by St. Paul the Apostle in Colossians 2:9 (the word is used 17 times in the NT).[2]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleroma

In other words thanks for proving my point that Paul was a Gnostic ;)

>>2391625
Yeah, Paul is using a Gnostic term to commit what is blasphemy in Gnosticism
Exactly the same as John in John 1
You do know that the incarnation is blasphemy in Gnosticism, right?

>>2391625
Despite many faggots thinking early Christianity was suppose to be some sort of "Judaism 2.0" the fact is early Christianity was very much blurred with Gnosticism, proto-hermeticism and others ect. Christ was very much a mystical figure who taught esoteric things.

>>2391590
In Gnosticism the material is evil. In Gnosticism it is impossible for the true God to take on a bodily form, because it cannot enter the material. This says the fullness (pleroma) of Godhood dwells bodily in Jesus. This is fully incompatible with Gnostic theology.

>>2391648
The New Testament has a clearly Jewish theology and regularly quotes the Old Testament

>>2391633
>blasphemy
What you're trying to do, is that you're using orthodox terminology and logic and then trying to input this to Gnosticism to try (?) to make a point. It doesn't work like that. There was no gnostic creed or central authority figure to anathematize and define what is or what isn't "blasphemy". There were many gnostic sects with many different beliefs about the nature of Christ, kind of like early ante-Nicene Christianity.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, you fail ;)

>>2391664
>The New Testament has a clearly Jewish theology
It has a clearly Greek philosophy as well.
>and regularly quotes the Old Testament
Which doesn't make it Judaism 2.0.

>>2391665
>What you're trying to do, is that you're using orthodox terminology and logic and then trying to input this to Gnosticism to try (?) to make a point
Gnosticism is a term which has meaning because it is united by a number of common doctrines. One ceases to be Gnostic once they depart from these doctrines. One of these is dualism. Paul was clearly not a dualist, as proven by Colossians 2:9
>kind of like early ante-Nicene Christianity
Unsurprising that you also know nothing of the ante-nicene church. Try reading a book.

>>2391715
See>>2391625
You know nothing of Gnosticism or Christianity. Begone satan.

>>2391724
>I share a board with retards like this

>>2391659
>for Valentinius, Christ descended on Jesus at his baptism and left before his death
There goes your entire argument.

>>2391715
Y-you don't agree with me? Read a book (that agrees with me)!

Hilarious.

>>2391739
Forgot source for the Valentinus.

http://www.equip.org/article/the-gnostic-jesus/

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>>2391739
Still waiting for an actual argument

>>2391754
He's saying a very famous gnostic disagrees with your idea that >>2391659 is incompatible with Gnosticism. Gnosticism is a very broad title which encompasses many beliefs. Including, partially, Saint Paul.

>>2391754
You're embarrassing yourself at this point. You made a claim and I refuted that claim. Then you had recourse to memes.

>>2391754
You're still waiting? Begone to the dept of Hades which you cometh, satan.

>>2391763
>He's saying a very famous gnostic disagrees
And yet provided no such evidence that Valentinus believed that the true spiritual God could enter or did enter creation, instead provided evidence that Valentinus believed that 'Christ' descended on Jesus at baptism and left before death. Considering Christ is essentially gnosis in Valentinianism, this is worthless.
>Including, partially, Saint Paul
Something that he has still failed to demonstrate.
>>2391767
You are clearly underage. Go away, moron.

>>2391780
>Something that he has still failed to demonstrate.
Except he has >>2391625
and >>2391539

>>2391784
Both of those were refuted

Paul didn't write Titus so we can ignore it.

>that's a blasphemy in Gnosticism
No such thing as a blasphemy in Gnosticism.
>Gnostics can't possibly believe that God entered the material world
Valentinius the famous gnostic believed it.
>molimeme
You sure showed us who the moron and underage child is. But you won't get another (you).

>>2391796
Who did It?

>>2391790
They weren't. You just said a bunch of debunked nonsense about gnostics being forced to subscribe to a particular dogma.

>>2391799
This is your last (You), cherish it, fucktard

>>2391804
Paul

>>2391799
>>2391807
Gave him another one for ya senpai

>>2391810
No he didn't

>>2391821
http://biblescripture.net/Titus.html

>>2391799
Here, mate.

>>2391821
What are you basing this claim, that Paul didn't write Titus? Do you care to share it with us or are you just going to be autistic about it?

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>>2391835
Thanks bros.

>>2391828
>>2391838
http://catholic-resources.org/Bible/Paul-Pastorals.htm

One last post, from the Secret Book of John:

I am the Providence of everything.
I became like my own human children.

I existed from the first.
I walked down every possible road.

I am the wealth of the light.
I am the remembering of the fullness.

I walked into the place of greatest darkness and on down.
I entered the central part of the prison.

I entered the middle of darkness,
The inner part of the underworld
To pursue my mission.

I entered the midst of darkness
I came to the deepest part of the underworld.

I raised him up
I sealed him with the light/water of the five seals.
Death had no power over him ever again.

I ascend again to the perfect realm.
I completed everything and you have heard it.”

These things came to John in a mystery.
Instantly the Savior vanished.

Is this retard trying to argue that docetism is a prerequisite for being gnostic?

>>2390506
>2nd generation follower of the Paul movement buzzed on the afternoon's wine decided to sit down and write this.
>Thousands of years later people take it literally.

>>2390506
Probably referred to all the anti-Christian information coming from the Pharisee camp and maybe but less likely some of the Jewish Christian groups.

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Daily reminder that Christianity is THE original red pill.

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Thanks. This makes me feel confident That Christianity is the true religion. Just look at (((who))) hates it the most.

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St. Paul, the Usurper

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>>2392048
Amen.