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Which historical figure most deserves the title of "Bad

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Napoleon or Genghis Khan?

Who else?

>INB4 Hitler.
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OP can't inb4.

Hitler.
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Jan Soblieski or whatever his name was.

Also:
>this op
It was 13 year old tier.
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Pancho Villa
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>>2372325
Hitler
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>>2372325
Hitler
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>>2372325
I imagine a lot of psychopathic leader-guys in history, and in the present, have f'd or killed their own mothers (their wives, sisters and daughters too). Check the news. All of them deserve that title.
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>>2372325
John Churchill - Napoleon would agree before you pseuds cry brit bias.
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>>2372325
Napoleon was cool. The Mongols were terrifying.
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>>2372325
Genghis Kahn. For simply creating the modern fucking world. No Genghis? No Napoleon. Way to put your horse before the cart, you sinicized wheat farmer.
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>>2374001
>Sobieski
Low energy, low test beta who won like two battles and fucked everything else up.
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>>2374887
t. Lindybeige
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>>2372325
Zizka

>be winning
>lose sight in one eye
>keep winning
>lose sight in both eyes
>keep winning
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Alkibiades of course
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>>2372325
Basil "I for an I" the Bulgarslayer
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Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.

>BTFO Anglos at Gallipoli by drastically exceeding your authority and taking de facto command of several divisions
>inflict on the Anglos their worse defeat in centuries despite having a massive disadvantage in men and materiel, saving your country from getting knocked out of the war early
>command troops in dozens of other battles throughout the war, historians widely agree that you were the best general your country had
>decide you don't like the empire you saved and choose to overthrow it to make a modern republic
>Greekshits and frogs don't like this and try to carve off parts of your country
>create a new army from scratch after your country lost literally 1/4 of its population a year before
>BTFO the Greeks and French despite being at a disadvantage in every area of men and materiel
>form a new country from scratch
>BTFO all rebellions
>have the leaders of the old empire exiled where they all die in squalor
>take a traditionalist society half of which literally live in medieval-esque conditions and modernize that shit
>push secularism on a devoutly religious populous, they accept it
>drastically expand rights for women and again somehow get the population to accept this
>get 18 female MPs in parliament at a time when women in a significant number of European countries had no voting rights
>bang hot hungarian actresses on the side
>adopt tons of children because you can
>your adopted daughter becomes the first female fighter pilot ever
>be so respected after all of this that your people TO THIS DAY still worship you and have a portrait or statue of you in every building
>even people who plainly disagree with your policies have to at least give lip service to how amazing you are lest they get strung up by the general population
>declare your birthday the same day as the founding of the country you created and receive the surname "Father of Turks", a name illegal for anyone else to have

One of the most based men in history.
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>>2372325
Justinian II

>wins battles and conquers
>levies taxes on the fat nobles
>gets overthrown and disfigured
>marries into bulgarian royalty
>comes back and retakes his thrown
>fucking enacts a brutal witchhunt of every person who has ever wronged him and has them all killed

also, define Bad Motherfucker
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>>2372325
Hitler.
Basically every prussians that every existed.

Napoleon did absolutely nothing wrong, he was just defending France and himself, not his faults if their offensive wars turned them conquered.
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Ivan the Terrible
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>>2372344
you must be new here
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>>2375114
Just because someone's existence was necessary for another's doesn't make them based. Newton's father could have been a drunken kid fondler and deserves no credit for what happened outside his control.

Not to say that Genghis isn't the obvious answer, it's just sad to see such a terrible argument for him is all.
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>>2372325
Hitler
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Jose de San Martin deserves an honorable mention

Bolivar as well
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Timur. Dude was a badass even beyond death.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur#Exhumation_and_alleged_curse
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Elon Musk
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Tamerlane


>>2376367
BASED
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>>2372325
Hitler
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>>2372325
Hitler
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>>2372325
Oedipus, quite literally
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>>2375114
>you will never ride into battle on a horse with a horde of your brothers to your side
>you will never cuck your enemies or take their daughters before their eyes

why live?
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