>nations have existed forever, after all, we used to

That is literally what a nation used to mean.

"Nation" taken to mean "economic zone the identity of which is defined by a travel document" is a postmodern liberal thing.

>before 1848 nations didn't exist

wew

>>2371735
>used to mean
>>2371741
Never said that
>>2371746
>before 1848 nations didn't exist
Never said that either, for example England was a nation by the time of the civil war.
Tribal identity =/= national identity

>>2371759
>definitions can't change

>>2371755
>trying to use definitions to define terms and words the definition of which has always been up for argument, it being core to the ideology what the definition is

>>2371820
Muh postmodernism.

Nation has always meant a group of people who feel they are a common ethos, with common roots and distinct from others.

The confusion comes from the fact that contemporary western states went full retard with the propositional identity thing.