>"Invading Russia is impossible because winter lol!"
>Mongols invade what would later become Russia, conquer it with trivial ease
>Turks and their vassals invade Russia and literally burn down Moscow
>Poles invade Russia, crush the Russian army, take Moscow, and end up annexing a bunch of their territory in the peace treaty
>Germans invade Russia, destroy the Russian army, collapse the Russian government, and occupy significant parts of it with much of the Russian Empire's land being ceded in the peace treaty
When will this meme die? The Swedes, French, and Germans were defeated in battle (both in Russian and on other fronts). They didn't lose because Russia is just impervious to conquest.
>The Rus area and Moscow Duchy are the same as the modern territory of Russian Federation
kys my man
>>2347745
Actually you are incorrect in multiple ways.
A good part of the russian states didn't even fight the Mongols but subdued to them, not only this but it wasn't impossible at the time with the type of warfare of the time, centred on battles and maneuvers; but it is factually extremely hard to conquer as of today because states can ammass such forces that wars are wars of position: stationary and exhausting fights to just gain a couple of kilometers. The Germans never had a chamce of beating RussiA, since it would have kept fighting even after losing Ztalingrad and Moscow, forcing Hitler to reach the AA line (in Siberia). it would be impossible to sustain such a massive amount of forces along such a long frontline and in terrible climate conditions. Germany tried her best woth Barbarossa, striking Russia unpreparadely, but in a normal scenario where both the contendents are ready and there is no surprise factor, Germany wouldn't have even reached Minsk.
Although you can find exceptions it will still hold the reputation it does regardless. Just like Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires.
>>2347745
>"Invading Russia is impossible because winter lol!"
It's not impossible, but it is hard. Especially as you get closer to the modern era and wars are less about field battles and more about nation-wide mobilization and fighting along an entire front.
>>2347745
Principalities of Rus were not in an unified state, and Mongols arrived during a warm period, so winter wasn't that bad.
>>2347770
> it is factually extremely hard to conquer as of today because states can ammass such forces that wars are wars of position: stationary and exhausting fights to just gain a couple of kilometers
>t. French High Command circa 1940
>>2347745
The majority of the French casualties during Napoleon's war weren't caused by the battles or the winter cold but by typhus in the summer.
> conquer it with trivial ease
Except a lot of the Mongols did die, including Genghis's own son Kulkan Borjigin.
>>2348571
Ah yes that misleading chart again
>>2348095
>Mongols arrived during a warm period, so winter wasn't that bad.
that show good planning.
>>2347770
> The Germans never had a chamce of beating RussiA, since it would have kept fighting even after losing Ztalingrad and Moscow, forcing Hitler to reach the AA line (in Siberia). it would be impossible to sustain such a massive amount of forces along such a long frontline and in terrible climate conditions. Germany tried her best woth Barbarossa, striking Russia unpreparadely, but in a normal scenario where both the contendents are ready and there is no surprise factor, Germany wouldn't have even reached Minsk.
The Russians would have surrendered if they lost most of their manpower base in Western Russia. They would have lost most of their oil along with Ukrainian grain.
If they didn't outright capitulate, a truce would be reached.
>>2347770
>wars are wars of position: stationary and exhausting fights to just gain a couple of kilometers
this is strictly inaccurate, mobility is the king of modern warfare
Just frogs and huns shaking hands on a lie to excuse their failures
>d*nmark unironically in charge of gotland, osel and scania
Really rustles my neurons.