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>There is no meaning in life >Death is not a negative state

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>There is no meaning in life
>Death is not a negative state
>Living only has utility in so much as you derive net positive enjoyment from it
>There is no reason to not kill yourself if life leaves you with more unhappiness than happiness

What's wrong with this reasoning?
No answers that rely on a particular religion being correct.
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>>2314095
>There is no meaning in life
If you examined the definition of "meaning" you'd realize the flaw in this statement.
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>>2314233
Sorry.
*Life doesn't have inherent value
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>>2314095
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you have no more basis to claim that life is without meaning than that it is meaningful because you don't know anything about the fundamental nature of the universe.

All you have is some pretty decent math correlations with stuff you see. You have no idea why the stuff is there, where it came from, why it should behave so regularly, or why you should have any of the thoughts or feelings that you have.
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>>2314095
non existence is so much worse than bad experiences
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>>2314307
>You have no idea why the stuff is there, where it came from, why it should behave so regularly, or why you should have any of the thoughts or feelings that you have.

Here, found you a meaning: go and fix that, learn and advance science.
t. STEM
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>>2314318
You're assuming that science is the kind of thing that can even produce that answer. We have no reason to believe that that's true.

Science does advance, and it's a worthy enterprise, and the only direction for us to go with now, but it doesn't give any guarantees of finding fundamental answers, or even fundamental questions.
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>>2314362
You're affirming, then, that those answers will have a meaning that will make the life of the average person better. Even if they do, they may only come generations from now, and the inherent suffering of human existence continues for those born before then.
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>>2314095
>So? We have the luxury, perhaps even the duty, to realise our own.
>Not a state at all.
>If you insist, enjoyment/happiness has never been my sole aim.
>again, why the fixation with happiness? If your life is at a point where it ought to end, let it end.
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>>2314314
Would you choose to live a week longer if it meant being brutally tortured that whole time?

Non-existence isn't something to worry about; if you don't exist, there's no one around to worry about how terrible it is. I'm more concerned about the process of dying than death itself.
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What point was there for matter to come together and form biological life? What reason is there for these strings of chemicals to continue multiplying and propagating themselves? It should've just stayed as inanimate matter, this is all pointless.
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>>2314318
>t. STEM

So you're just a living meme?
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