Let's be real for a moment. As individuals, I'm sure

>>2313890
They say a woman's place is in the home.

Does it matter what they say, now that you disagree with it?

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>>2313890
yeah bitch, they're telling me that if I have the means to place you within my sphere of influence, you can potentially be labeled as my property, regardless of any artificial social constructs that may be in place. this is reality.

>>2313895
It does when they are in power.

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>>2313890
at a philosophical level I want pics so I can gaze upon my property

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Emma Goldman (1869-1940)

To the moralist prostitution does not consist so much in the fact that the woman sells her body, but rather that she sells it out of wedlock.

Why waste your life working for a few shillings a week in a scullery, eighteen hours a day, when a woman could earn a decent wage by selling her body instead?

>>2313899
only matters to you and others like you. why should anyone else care? give me a reason to care about you. I have none.

>>2313907
I too remember being 17 and thinking human empathy is uncool.

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Florynce Kennedy (1916-2000)

Prostitutes are accused even by feminists of selling their bodies; but prostitutes don’t sell their bodies, they rent their bodies. Housewives sell their bodies when they get married.

.. tobacco kills 52,000 people a year from lung cancer, and there’s no telling how many lives have been ruined through drinking. But to my knowledge, no one has ever died of a blow job.

>>2313899
You misinterpreted his question(probably because you're a woman and your brain is half-baked). You implied in the OP that you see some kind of inherent value in what the great philosophers say. After being informed that some great philosophers have said things against your beliefs, you were asked if you still saw such positions of authority as a legitimate grounds of argumentation. does it make sense now? I'll help you with your mental handicap as much as you need this thread.

>>2313915
sorry, you made a philosophy thread. I could empathize with you, but that would not require any reason, just emotion.

quick rundown on how exactly Mike pence being in power is going to effect you negatively?

typical grrrrllll getting hysterical because all she reads is huffpo

>>2313918
>But to my knowledge, no one has ever died of a blow job.
if you get AIDS, yes. or maybe if you bite the dick off and choke on it

>>2313915
>I once disliked empathy, but now I like it, so your argument is invalid
woman logic, folks. it's incredible.

>>2313904
Thus Dante’s motto over Inferno applies with equal force to marriage: “Ye who enter here leave all hope behind.”

That marriage is a failure none but the very stupid will deny. One has but to glance over the statistics of divorce to realize how bitter a failure marriage really is. Nor will the stereotyped Philistine argument that the laxity of divorce laws and the growing looseness of woman account for the fact that: first, every twelfth marriage ends in divorce; second, that since 1870 divorces have increased from 28 to 73 for every hundred thousand population; third, that adultery, since 1867, as ground for divorce, has increased 270.8 per cent.; fourth, that desertion increased 369.8 per cent.

>>2313890
Have you ever felt empathy with all the unborn boys killed by scumbag women? At this point nothing but complete gynocide would be satisfying, you're wretched and evil as a sex.

>>2313890
Who cares? Women are too dumb to into power, and when they are 'allowed' a position of power, insane shit happens like they let in thousands and thousands of people in their country that they've been trying to keep out of their lands for millennia. or win a nobel piece price before turning a blind eye to genocide in their country. that second thing has happened twice, btw.

>>2313940
Never mind the vicious nonsense of claiming that an embryo has a “right to life.” A piece of protoplasm has no rights—and no life in the human sense of the term. One may argue about the later stages of a pregnancy, but the essential issue concerns only the first three months. To equate a potential with an actual, is vicious; to advocate the sacrifice of the latter to the former, is unspeakable. . . . Observe that by ascribing rights to the unborn, i.e., the nonliving, the anti-abortionists obliterate the rights of the living: the right of young people to set the course of their own lives. The task of raising a child is a tremendous, lifelong responsibility, which no one should undertake unwittingly or unwillingly. Procreation is not a duty: human beings are not stock-farm animals. For conscientious persons, an unwanted pregnancy is a disaster; to oppose its termination is to advocate sacrifice, not for the sake of anyone’s benefit, but for the sake of misery qua misery, for the sake of forbidding happiness and fulfillment to living human beings.

“A Last Survey”
The Ayn Rand Letter, IV, 2, 3

>>2313960
>Ayn Rand
Yep, typical woman right here. One day someone will declare them non-humans on par with those "pieces of protoplasm", we'll see how they like it.

>>2313966
A proper, philosophically valid definition of man as “a rational animal,” would not permit anyone to ascribe the status of “person” to a few human cells.

The Objectivist Forum “The Age of Mediocrity”
The Objectivist Forum, June 1981, 2

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>>2313960
>Procreation is not a duty: human beings are not stock-farm animals.
You are a stock-farm animal, my property. You shall create offspring who will provide for me in my old age.

>>2313960
>A piece of protoplasm has no rights
rights are artificially assigned to things by humans. they're an abstraction. this argument is meaningless. one person believes a cow has rights, another doesn't. it's subjective. there are people who think plants have rights.

>—and no life in the human sense of the term.
what? according to what branch of biology is this definition of "life"?

I only have to read two sentences of that to realize the writer is a retard. I wasn't surprised at all when I saw who said that.

>>2313972
F. Scott Fitzgerald — 'The rich get richer and the poor get - children.'

>>2313970
what you're presenting is an opinion. I think you're under the impression that it's objective reasoning. need help?

>>2313960
I think even people who don't know who Ayn Rand was would realize she was a Jew after reading that sociopathic drivel.

>>2313976
“A right,” according to Ayn Rand , “is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a person's freedom of action in a social context” (“Man's Rights,” Virtue of Selfishness [New York: Penguin, 1964], 130). ... Rights are derived from the capacity to reason, and thus people have rights and animals do not.Jan 23, 2011

>>2313977
>>2313960
why are some people incapable of writing their own sentences?

>>2313991
Quotation, n: The act of repeating erroneously the words of another.
Ambrose Bierce, The Unabridged Devil's Dictionary

[A] quotation is a handy thing to have about, saving one the trouble of thinking for oneself, always a laborious business."
(The Record Lie)
A.A. Milne, If I May

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>>2313988
>Rights are derived from the capacity to reason
>Rights

>>2313890
welcome to the club toots. im a f*cking white male and for the past 8 years ive had ideologues telling me i should feel guilty just for existing. so yes i can sympathize with you (inb4 you tell me that i cant because of my white penis) and all i can say is just suck it up because eventually the pendulum will swing back your way just as its swinging my way now.

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>>2314000
>>2313988
>Reason

>>2313890

How about you do some deeper political reading than huffpo and buzzfeed headlines

>>2313988
yes, "rights" are artificial abstractions that exist that are arbitrarily and subjectively assigned to various life forms and even inanimate objects by different people/groups of people. denying the existence of "rights" doesn't make sense, as they are an existing social mechanism.

what you don't seem to understand, is that "rights" are 100% subjective on a person-to-person basis. for example: blacks had few rights compared to whites in southern US before the civil war, because it was the opinion of people in power that they were undeserving of such rights.

the line between subjectivity and objectivity is blurred for you, because you're a woman and you put more attention into your feelings than your ability to reason.

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>>2313890
>Alexander Dugin
You're scared of some complete cuckold living on the other side of the planet?

>>2314010
The right to life is the cornerstone of society, without respecting that the society ceases to exist.

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>>2313890

>evil conservative men want you to be taken care of by your husband while you play with your kids

Oh the horror, will someone think of the career womyn!

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>>2313890

FUCK DRUMPF
FUCK WHITE PEOPLE

ITT: Virgins and trolls
You know which one you are.

>>2314021
You have no right to life. the state just has a monopoly on violence

>>2314030
This post right here is the pinnacle of female intelligence.

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>>2313890

I will never stop fighting for the progress women have made, allowing themselves to work full time as a single mom taking care of chads kid.

>>2314021
that's contradicted by every execution ever held, every slave beaten to death, every infanticide, every murder, every war, in the history of forever. society didn't cease when people lost their rights to life more times than I can count. you're living in a fantasy mind world.

>>2314030
both?

Superficial 'muh child murder' freedom isn't actual freedom.

Nothing but a God can restrict.
>>2313915
Why is empathy good?
>>2313960
Ayn Rand is a nonentity.
>>2313970
Rationality doesn't exist.

>>2314035
>1915: dumb whores
>2015: dumb whores
Yawn

>>2314033
I'm a dude, and I think you're the first

>>2314038

>yeah well bad things happen so why have laws haha checkmate conservatards

>>2314043
>I'm a dude
>white knighting on an anonymous imageboard
Sure think Sheila. Fuck off back to HuffPo.

Life isn't all about individuality and freedom. It's also about community and responsibility. You can't just do what ever you want with your life because ultimately you owe your existence to those who came before you and the systems laid down that allowed you the privilege of security and safety to ponder such questions. You as an 'individual' are in fact beholden to certain traditions and social constructs which developed in culture as a means of protecting and stabilizing the culture, the culture which is intrinsic to you. Would you sacrifice it for the mere flights of fancy? Are you really so important? The answer is, no. You aren't important, but woman is. Women in particular have a very important responsibility and biological role to the survival of our species. A role, which if corrupted, threatens the future survival and progression of our offspring. You do in fact have a duty. As do men. But only men seem to understand the concept of duty, which is why we were given the strength and you the womb.

>>2314030
this is the wall I can't pass when trying to reason with women. eventually they focus on some kind of "i'm smart and right, you're dumb and stupid" abstraction, repeat it, and ignore you. I'm trying to figure out a way around this cognitive dissonance wall. has anyone found a method?

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>>2313890

>The agriculture gender roles of the Native Americans varied from region to region. In the southwest area, men prepared the soil with hoes. The women were in charge of planting, weeding, and harvesting the crops. In most other regions, the women were in charge of doing everything, including clearing the land. Clearing the land was an immense chore since the Native Americans rotated fields frequently. There is a tradition that Squanto showed the Pilgrims in New England how to put fish in fields to act like a fertilizer, but the truth of this story is debated.

>>2314048
Hmm, I'm definitely leaning towards the second option now...

>>2314050
Yes, don't be an ugly virgin :^)

>>2314045
that's not just some aberrations that break the societal norm, the death penalty has always been a part of society and still is outside of Europe.

>>2313890

Why would any woman unironically not want to be a housewife raising her kids?

Women who desire a career for 25+ years are deluded or mentally deranged.

>54 posts
>12 IPs
someone here is really, really lonely

>>2314060

Are you really too dense to grasp legal executions versus abortions out of convenience?

>>2314004
>the pendulum will swing back your way
When in history have women ever before had actual liberty to choose their lives? It's not a pendulum.

>past 8 years
8 years of "white cis men"-memes?! You poor thing! The entire history of civilized mankind suppressing the female gender is nothing in comparison, certainly.

>>2314045
what? what you're suggesting I said has nothing to do with what I actually said. do you know what a "strawman argument" is, and why it doesn't make sense? you just made one.

>>2314049

I hope you get violently assaulted so that you can challenge your completely useless and irrational worldview in favor of something that comports to reality.

>>2314050

Just laugh and know that they have a shelf life, and that their value plummets at 30.

>>2314016
>my side of the planet is your side of the planet

>>2314075

Maybe there is a reason women have never been in charge, anywhere, for any reason, for any length of time.

>>2314023
Explain again the claimed current female oppression of men. Please specify.

>>2314056
weird, I don't fit that description but still every woman I talk to is fucking retarded. it must be something else causing the lack of ability to reason, then. it'd be weird if it was something external to the female's mind, anyway.

>>2314074
>legal executions
>legal
that's exactly it. some killing is allowed. if you have a "right" to life then you cannot be killed in any case. there is no right to life, you just lack the right to kill others under most circumstances according to the state

>>2314086

That was my first post ITT???

>>2314087
Best line was Jack Nicholson's in "As Good As It Gets":

Womyn: How do you write women so well?

Jack: I just write a man, and then take away reason and accountability.

>>2314081
it's not a competition, I'm just literally trying to figure out a way to teach philosophical and logical principles to women, as it's very challenging.

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>>2314085
that reason is the sexist white male patriarchy!!!!!1!!111! reeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>2314082
So why are you worried about Mike Pence if you live in Russia?

To call woman the weaker sex is a libel; it is man's injustice to woman. If by strength is meant brute strength, then, indeed, is woman less brute than man. If by strength is meant moral power, then woman is immeasurably man's superior. Has she not greater intuition, is she not more self-sacrificing, has she not greater powers of endurance, has she not greater courage? Without her, man could not be. If nonviolence is the law of our being, the future is with woman. Who can make a more effective appeal to the heart than woman?"

[To the Women of India (Young India, Oct. 4, 1930)]
Mahatma Gandhi

>>2314086
Not just oppression but genocide. Millions of little boys murdered annually.

>>2314087
>projecting your insecurity and failures with women as faults with them while ignoring your inner issues
I think you fit my analysis perfectly desu

>>2314101

Thanks again for reminding why ghandhi was a socialist, self loathing cuck

>>2314096
They're literally not wired for it.

They're wired for security. Just look at the womyn who started this thread. Felt that her security was threatened by who the VP is. A man she will never be in contact with who will do absolutely nothing against her personally, ever.

Yet she's terrified.

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>>2313890
>As a woman

>>2314109
Don't forget a pedophile.

>>2314109
I would rather trust a woman's instinct than a man's reason.

Stanley Baldwin

>>2314101
>moral realist arguments
nice opinions. india is such a great example of social success, infrastructure, and woman's rights.

>>2314064
Again, let's be real. Do you honest to God truly believe this?
I'm asking you Anon, don't troll now but be sincere. Do you really believe in those words? Do you honestly struggle to understand why?

>>2314124
Not him, but you're one of the two options he mentioned there at the end.

Seriously.

>>2314121
I do not think I ever opened a book in my life which had not something to say upon woman's inconstancy. Songs and proverbs, all talk of woman's fickleness. But perhaps you will say, these were all written by men."

"Perhaps I shall. Yes, yes, if you please, no reference to examples in books. Men have had every advantage of us in telling their own story. Education has been theirs in so much higher a degree; the pen has been in their hands. I will not allow books to prove anything.

Jane Austen, Persuasion

>>2314091
So? Answer the question. Tell me how horrible the current female-to-male oppression is. Specify how it affects you and your life's choices.

>>2314131
if you don't have any of your own words to say you might as well say nothing at all

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>>2313890
>>2313898
>>2313931
>>2313936
>>2314041
>This thread

>>2314116
what a hot opinion you and him share. here's my equally valid-in-this-argument opinion that some dude said at some point:

"God created woman. And boredom did indeed cease from that moment — but many other things ceased as well! Woman was God's second mistake."

>>2314139
A library is a place where you can lose your innocence without losing your virginity.

>>2313895
at least ONE philosopher.

>>2314151
That would be one more than I would listen to.

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>>2314131
so jane austen's opinions, now? you really do have no understanding of the difference between subjective reasoning and objective reasoning, that's insane.

check out pic related for some other hot opinions, kago's got some interesting idea about women, just like austen does about men.

also, you might want to look up what an "argument from authority" is, and why it isn't a valid form of argumentation.

>>2314157
Can you be more edgy? You're a living parody.

>>2314171
>completely misses the point

>>2313890
You shouldn't be worried about Trump or Pence, you should be worried about Supreme Court appointments and what your local state politicians are doing. Trump's hilariously assholish twitter account means nothing to you personally and most of the policies he wishes to promote will not be able to negatively affect you much.

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>and the belief that women do not have souls.[85][86][87][88]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawites

>>2314171
as are you m'lady

>>2313966
>>2313970
I don't think you quite understand. no matter how you look at it the op still more correct then you because objectively speaking a woman will always be more human then an embryo

>>2314182
>en.m

mobile posters leave

>>2314189
You're not a human if you lack Y chromosome, now scram. A MALE embryo is infinitely more human than a female of any age.

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>>2314144
Calling something edge is literally not an arguement.

Want to hear something else edgy? The only thing more sure than life is death.

>>2313890
Mike Pence believes that abortion is murder, that's about the only point of contention. You have inferred that you believe getting an abortion is your life; therefore, to make him morally accept your position you would have to make him believe that abortion is not murder or that murder is acceptable in the case of an unborn baby.

>>2314245
Life=right

My autocorrect is a pain in the ass

>>2314245
Prior to the 20th century, it was a Jewish term usually (but not only) referring to masturbation. In Shulchan Aruch, on "Yoreh Deah", it is stated that wasting sperm is considered to be a sin greater than any sin in the Torah.

O Maker of the material world, thou Holy One! If a man involuntarily emits his seed, what is the penalty that he shall pay?

Ahura Mazda answered: 'Eight hundred stripes with the Aspahê-astra, eight hundred stripes with the Sraoshô-karana.'

O Maker of the material world, thou Holy One! If a man voluntarily emits his seed, what is the penalty for it? What is the atonement for it? What is the cleansing from it?

Ahura Mazda answered: 'For that deed there is nothing that can pay, nothing that can atone, nothing that can cleanse from it; it is a trespass for which there is no atonement, for ever and ever.'

When is it so?

'It is so, if the sinner be a professor of the law of Mazda, or one who has been taught in it. But if he be not a professor of the law of Mazda, nor one who has been taught in it, then this law of Mazda takes his sin from him, if he confesses it and resolves never to commit again such forbidden deeds.

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>>2314264
Well we aren't talking about prior to the 20th century and nobody is invoking that argument.

The fact of the matter is that my sperm aren't on track to be walking, talking, breathing entities. A fertilised egg on the other hand is.

Your argument is as stale and musty as the twats at the slut walks.

Literally the only right brought into question is abortion. Now assume I am Mike Pence "is it ok to murder an innocent?"

>>2314284
In the Middle Ages, at the height of its rabid crusade to punish desire, the Catholic Church deemed masturbation a mortal sin deserving of eternal damnation. By Twain’s day, as medicine was beginning to split off from religious doctrine, doctors no longer claimed that God would slay those guilty of onanism, but did vehemently portend the harmful effects of self-pleasuring — or “self-abuse,” as it was referred to at the time. Admonishing that the perilous practice would even effect early death, they used medical warnings as a vehicle for the same old moral judgments stemming from religion. Victorian newspapers would regularly feature ads for male chastity belts, “scientific” pills to dampen desire, and even metal clamps designed to contain any unwanted “excitement.” Those, ironically, were marketed at treatments for rather than mechanisms of “self-abuse.”
https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/02/26/mark-twain-on-masturbation/

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>a high level of discourse is expected
>the thread is instantly a baitful edgefest just by the OP being/pretending to be a femanon
You are better than this /his/

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>>2314295
Oh, ok. Assume I accept your arguement.

Masturbation is also bad. I'll make sure to stop.

Abortion is still murder.

>>2314310
Then so is being a wanker.

>>2314308
No, /his/ really isn't. I'm not sure what would give you that ridiculous idea.

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>>2314313
...That's what I said

Also the difference between masturbation and abortion is that the sperm is not fertilized. This argument is tired and ludicrous. You're comparing apples to oranges.

>>2314319
A dog arguably has more sentience than an undeveloped embryo.

>>2314087
if it smells like shit everywhere you go maybe you should check your own shoes

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>>2314325
So we should have the right to murder less sentient humans?

I see you agree with Hitler and Stalin.

>>2314333
Tell it to American soldiers.

>>2314245
It's murder whether you agree that it is or not.

You seem to not know where babies come from.

>>2314189
that's actually not objectively speaking in any way. what branch of biology are you citing? what is this definition of "human"?

>>2314325
I'm not even anti-abortion, but why should intelligence be the standard? can we kill the mentally retarded?

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>>2314340
I am the one arguing with the pro-abortion person, I agree that it's murder.

>>2314339
M'comrade.

You realise that every army commits atrocities right? America is nowhere near the worst.

Let me guess you're some millennial who's narcissistic enough to think that America is the be all and end all of evil.

>>2314325
what does sentience have to do with anything?

>>2314356
What standard do you want to go by, chakras?

>>2314328
but a lot of men I speak to reflect in-depth understandings of reasoning, and can have a grasp on objective vs subjective principles. obviously I don't seem to be the source of other people having issues with interpreting reality.

>>2314369
what you're saying right now brings up the point of futility in ascribing inherent rights to anything.

>>2314369
what is convenient. abortion is convenient. killing tards makes you feel icky

>>2314384
maybe it makes YOU feel icky. objective vs subjective reasoning. when will they learn?

>>2314023
Women aren't objectifying themselves, they're trying to de-stigmatize social dress code. The only objectification in this picture is done by the person looking at it (you), that being said they're a bunch of dumb sloots

>>2314383
Life is a right, though it may be dished out in varying degrees.

>>2314391
that's my point. sticky to my biases is convenient. same with society. that is what determines what we allow, not what "rights" people supposedly have

>>2314397
"rights" are artificial abstractions that exist that are arbitrarily and subjectively assigned to various life forms and even inanimate objects by different people/groups of people. denying the existence of "rights" doesn't make sense, as they are an existing social mechanism.

what you don't seem to understand, is that "rights" are 100% subjective on a person-to-person basis. for example: blacks had few rights compared to whites in southern US before the civil war, because it was the opinion of people in power that they were undeserving of such rights.

the line between subjectivity and objectivity is blurred for you, because you're a woman and you put more attention into your feelings than your ability to reason.

>>2314374
A lot of men will have no clue what the fuck you're talking about but pretend they do.

A woman doesn't give a fuck and will shout HUH at everything she doesn't completely understand.

I've met more than enough women who were clearly smarter than me, the problem is that they are expected to fill this 'womanly' role of playing dumb and being pretty. Just like your average man is expected to watch football and drink beer.

>>2314403
what happens when most of society has the opinion that you should have less rights than they have, or no rights at all, i.e. genocide, which has happened many times in history?

>>2314409
then that's what will happen?

>>2314403
Except there are rational people attempting to look for objectively practical solutions through scientific inquiry. Regardless of whether or not society allows an oppressive government is no indication of that government's objective value.

>>2314414
would you then realize that "rights" are completely subjective?

>>2314404
>"rights" are artificial abstractions
Then so is society, that doesn't make it any less real.

>>2314427
re-read the entire post. here, I'll post it a second time, for your convenience. obviously you didn't read it, as the issue you are bringing up was clearly addressed in the second sentence.

"rights" are artificial abstractions that exist that are arbitrarily and subjectively assigned to various life forms and even inanimate objects by different people/groups of people. denying the existence of "rights" doesn't make sense, as they are an existing social mechanism.

what you don't seem to understand, is that "rights" are 100% subjective on a person-to-person basis. for example: blacks had few rights compared to whites in southern US before the civil war, because it was the opinion of people in power that they were undeserving of such rights.

the line between subjectivity and objectivity is blurred for you, because you're a woman and you put more attention into your feelings than your ability to reason.

>>2314427
you're failing to separate the objective existence of "rights" from the subjective definition and application of "rights".

>>2314433
>that "rights" are 100% subjective on a person-to-person basis
That's as true as math being 100% subjective. There are physical laws that apply to society, if everyone is stealing from each other and no one is working then unless there is some magic involved they are going to starve.

>>2314454
someone deciding you have no rights and tying you up in their basement for the rest of your life doesn't make them wrong, as it's an opinion they hold. you, at the same time, may feel the contradictory opinion that you do have rights and he deserves to be in prison, regardless of whether or not that is the outcome of the situation. you both have opinions, neither are inherently correct or incorrect, some may be more widely shared than others. someone deciding 2 + 2 = 5 is just wrong, their beliefs contradict reality, unlike the previous examples, which were opinions. your analogy doesn't work at all. it's literal poetry, meant to look good but it means nothing.

you truly have no grasp on subjective vs objective reasoning, no matter how plainly I explain it. this is insane.

>>2314454
>if everyone is stealing from each other and no one is working
you realize raiding based societies have existed in abundance in history, right? the existence of them alone contradicts your claim, let alone a lot of other flaws with it.

>>2314357
Don't know how I got that so wrong. My apologies.

>>2314464
>someone deciding you have no rights and tying you up in their basement for the rest of your life doesn't make them wrong
If everyone did that the society would die, so unless they are against life they are wrong. Or else they're hypocrites, the definition of wrong, which they are anyway as life advocating for death. Of course you don't have to accept reason but then you don't really have any business reasoning with people.

>>2314480
>If everyone did that the society would die[citation needed]
no, society would just be composed primarily of people that have people tied up in their basements. it already exists on some level with certain kinds of brothels.

>so unless they are against life they are wrong
if they are against life, does that make them right? I don't understand your reasoning here at all. in the first place, it's entirely non sequitor. you're missing multiple parts of the premise, including defining "wrong", and tying the concept of "life" to "death of society", which you have not explained the relevance at all. do you understand reasoning whatsoever?

>Or else they're hypocrites, the definition of wrong, which they are anyway as life advocating for death.
is a soldier shooting someone on the battlefield a hypocrite? is someone hunting a deer for food a hypocrite? is a farmer harvesting wheat, a life form advocating death, a hypocrite? is a bandit raiding a town, advocating death for his personal gain, a hypocrite? what is your reasoning, here. it's contradictory to observable reality.

>Of course you don't have to accept reason
I understand why you hold this opinion. it justifies your lack of understanding of the subject for yourself.

>>2314498
>someone deciding you have no rights and tying you up in their basement for the rest of your life doesn't make them wrong,
A cycle of repression and rebellion in accordance with unavoidable fundamentals of society. People are just matter that functions according to the same laws as anything else, but for some reason we don't like the idea that we're governed by the same laws as a thrown handful of sand.

>>2314508
it's the inability to make the distinction between physical laws and artificial laws that astounds me. particularly things having to do with "humanity" and morals.

>>2314528
What are morals to one person are natural laws to another. Banning smoking and murder are two different things though, because theories get complicated without straying from the fundamental rationale.

>>2314534
so you're making a phenomenological argument that a human seeing morality as objective, from their perspective, experiences objective morals? I'm just clarifying here, there's nothing wrong with this argument, though discussing the principle with other perspectives of reality shares some of the issues discussing solipsism has.

>>2314546
Everything is a lie because the truth is blinding, but in my experience there are degrees.

>>2313890
That comes to my mind, the only philosophers who touch upon the subject of freedom are the existentialist. That is, if you don't count political philosophers, wich desu you really should not.

For an example, Sartre believes the only form of true freedom is conscience, therefore all outside influences or events should have no effect on your freedom.

>>2314553
oh, nvm you've got some weird arbitrarily rationalized perceptions of degrees of inherent "rightness" and "wrongness"

read up on phenomenology if you want to learn some cray shit.

>>2313890
Sooo, you're afraid that you will have to act like a women?

>>2314564
Some theories are right and others are wrong and they are tested against reality. Maybe that reality is a dream but that doesn't change the scientific method, even if it's just a dream within a dream.

>>2314576

>muh scientific method

>>2314610
That's what separates a hypothesis from an understanding.

>>2314325
A dog arguably has more sentience than a woman too.

>>2314419
>science
>objective
>practical
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>>2314614
No, it's what spreads a bad ideology.

>>2313904
>quoting Emma Goldman out of context to make it sounded like she supported prostitution

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