Can we get a thread on WW2 Japan? I'll start with the Yamato.

>>2312015
A beautiful ship made for the beautiful open seas.

take it to /k/, newfag

Yes, but it'll be deleted shortly for not being otaku culture.

I visited the Yamato Museum in Kure during my Comiket overstay, they've got a big plaque with the name of everyone who died. There probably wasn't that much I couldn't have learned from more accessible sources but it was interesting to see the videos and artifacts.

>>2312018
>otaku culture
What if I'm a ship otaku?

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>>2312017
>>2312018
How is this not otaku culture? Surely, I will assume you do not conceptualize weeaboos as those who are solely interested in the modern entertainament aspect of Japan.

Are your boats cute moe girls?

>>2312020
Definitely not otaku culture, but it would be sad to delete an interesting thread about Japanese boat which is not a retarded "I want to sail on [insert boatslut] butt !"

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>>2312021
We can discuss the teikoku kaigun while posting Kancolle if you want. Japan would have done a lot better if the National Diet had listened to Yamamoto from the start.

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>>2312015
I personally like the Kongô class. I find them really elegant with their long silhouette and their masts.

I'll always feel sad because the Imperial Navy had some of the most beautiful pieces of naval engineering ever created, which now lay at the bottom of the sea... Pearl Harbor was a mistake...

>>2312024
>Pearl Harbor was a mistake
Americans deserved it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Ships#Gunboat_diplomacy

>>2312025
questions of "who deserved what" are best left for the editorial columns

best to content yourself with analysis of what happened and why rather than trying to pass judgment on things

>>2312025
American were allied with Japan during WW2 before the attacks. French ambassador even thanked Japanese government because the US were neutral before this, and they now had a casus belli against the Axe. Japanese attacking the US by surprise was probably one of the worst military mistakes ever.

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History of moe illustration is Otaku Culture™, right? I hope OP wouldn't mind.

>>2312023
Be careful, the touhou autists will lose it when kancolle is present in more than one thread

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So here's a small article about cute drawn girls in a military newspaper that sailors would read.

http://acj.sblo.jp/article/64828739.html

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Supposedly this is battleship Haruna...

>>2312031
The original kanker.

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...and this is heavy cruiser Kumano.

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>>2312029
This is not a Kancolle thread.
But how did this >>2312024 became this this ? I wish there was an anime/game with Japanese warship which don't turn them into stupid moe girls.

>>2312034
There are. You just cant be bothered looking.

>>2312015
it reminds me of a star destroyer.

>>2312027
Japan could've carved out their co-prosperity sphere if they had simply not attacked the US. isolationism was strong up until then, and the British weren't even a challenge. another mistake was invading China, which I think was like invading Russia -- they should've been content with Manchuria and a few other possessions.

as it was, Japan simply could not keep up with the might of our industrial/military complex. advantages they had early on were lost, as our airforce got better and they ran low on zero pilots, etc.

Japan tried military conquest and lost, then tried economic dominance and got stagnated, then switched to cultural dominance, where they're winning. you have to admit, they have tenacity.

>>2312036
addendum, of course Japan is a major economy and one of the Big Four currencies. they're also gradually resurging militarily through Abe's reforms. I was just tracing out the basic pattern.

>>2312027
>>2312036
the USA put an embargo for oil on the japanese, they sure as hell weren't their friends before pearl harbor and they even expected an attack, just not at pearl harbor but in the phillipines.

>>2312019

According to the mods military otakuism doesn't exist. I've had my thread deleted and been warned for off topic posts when I posted something about aircraft.

Generals and /e/-lite threads are the only safe threads that don't come with a chance of deletion and ban.

>still Using Western warships
>not Using exclusively Japanese Warships

>>2312039
If you're a military otaku, you don't go to /jp/, you go to /k/.
If you're a train otaku, you don't go to /jp/, you go to /n/.
If you're a history otaku, you don't go to /jp/, you go to /his/.
If you're a photo otaku, you don't go to /jp/, you go to /p/.
If you're a bird otaku, you don't go to /jp/, you go to /an/.
If you're an idol otaku, you don't go to... Oh, wait.

Ram it home girls, ram it home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwLyIMqfbf0

Day of the Dauntless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzFr-uNTXxc

>>2312015
>the crew considered it would be a dishonor for the Yamato to go down in history as a hotel. They sailed to Okinawa. The idea was that, upon arriving on Okinawan shores, they ram into the battleship into the land and turn it into an undestroyable fortress. The crew would live off of the resources on the islands and surrender only upon running out of ammunitions
Why does WW2 consistently bring out the stupidest threads? Yamato's crew did not make that decision. They were ordered.

>>2312027
>American were allied with Japan during WW2 before the attacks.
This is the dumbest thing I read on /his/.

>>2312024
The Kongo class was designed by a Brit.

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>>2312024
Personally I prefer their British counterpart.

>>2312038

They also predicted an attack on Wake Island. One of the two carriers (I'm blanking on which one and too lazy to look it up) wasn't at Pearl precisely because they were delivering aircraft to help shore up the defenses at Wake.

>>2312046
It attracts massive amounts weaboos and wehraboos.

Was this thread moved from /jp/?

kek

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>>2312944
yup

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>>2313010
Ah, that's why the tone of the posters seemed somewhat off, that ain't /his/speak...
>>2312024
The Pagoda mast was aesthetic af. Made the IJN Battleships look like spaceships.

>>2313069
Tbh pagodas are pretty high up there when it comes to things that will make a boat ugly.

>>2312944
Been a while since I've last seen a thread getting moved.

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>>2313086
Really? Don't you like a huge, towering, sci fi control centre on top of your naval gun platform?

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>>2312053
Kongo was built in the UK, her sister ships in Japan

>>2312024

>I personally like the Kongô class.

The Kongo's ended up being the most successful battleships the Japanese ever had.

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/thread

>>2315478
It is pretty sad when your most successful dreadnoughts are couple monkey models designed by Brits.

>>2315505

Well, to be fair, the ships were extensively upgraded by the time WW2 rolled around. To the point where you could almost argue that they were completely new ships. The propulsion system was completely overhauled, radar was added, they received their distinctive pagoda masts, anti-aircraft guns were added, and additional armor was added on, allowing them to be reclassified from "battlecruisers" to "fast battleships."

>>2315539
Even after their up armoring claiming that they now were fast battleships instead of battlecruisers was rather optimistic move from IJN's part.

>>2313704
come to /trash/ more

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>>2314858
Nah, I'm more of a mansionman myself.

>>2315539
Kongou-class' rebuilds weren't really that radical or massive when compared to some other vintage WW1 boats and rebuilds that they received. For example Renowns gained extra 3 inches of belt armor during their rebuilds and Conte di Cavours turned from 22 knot ships with 5 x 2 305mm guns to 27 knot ships with 4 x 2 320mm guns.

>>2316089
And the Bayern class received an entirely new superstructure and a 9 knot increase in speed.

>>2312024
>Kongo class
HOL UP

>>2312041
>If you're an idol otaku, you don't go to /jp/, you go to hell
fixed

>>2316089
To be fair, the CdCs just got their guns bored out instead of an actual replacement.

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>>2317813
HOTEL
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season two when?

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>>2317864
You cant just leave port without proper scort.

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>>2317864
>be in a tight spot
>waste precious resources on building a one-off prototype destroyer instead of using them in building more of already existing destroyer designs

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>>2318106
It was a testbed for a new experimental steam turbine.
It was completed in 1943, which was not that bad as to think everything was lost.

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>>2317813
>spend most of the war by playing a floating officer's club
>then get thrown away on a pointless suicide mission just so that some old farts can feel like their honor has been saved

Hotel had a hard life.

>>2312023
Who is this boner owner

>>2318839
A high grade seabird grill from Nippon.

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>>2312015
>Contact, starbord, 5-0, bear 3-0, moving slow, huge propella noise Captain.
>Hello again you fat steel cow

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>The age of battleships last less than a century

>>2318944
They were a total waste. The only real battle of battleships that occured was the Jutland battle, which ended in an embarrassing stalemate.

>>2312015
Alright. Then the aftermath of the battle of Nankin. Right here > >>>/d/

>>2318956
>The only real battle of battleships that occured was the Jutland battle
Why are you even on a history board?

>>2318944

If you define "battleships" more broadly to include ships of the line then it lasted for centuries.

>>2318976
Things like the Danemark strait battle aren't "real" battle to me, just skirmishes, with small forces.

>>2318994
>>2318956
I suppose they meant "steel battleships"

>>2318956
Tsushima. You're an idiot.

>>2312303
Enterprise was delivering aircraft to Wake and Lexington was delivering aircraft to Midway

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>>2318944
>tfw all those dreadnoughts were rendered obsolete outside of shore bombardment roles in less than 30 years

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>>2318956

>The only real battle of battleships that occured was the Jutland battle

That's extremely wrong BTW.

>>2321083
Those recoloured photos are amazing. Keep dumping them.

>>2314858
how do those not flip over

>>2321127

Because everything underneath them is so heavy.

>>2321127
They did, constantly. That's why gundams were invented, so the IJN could have them grab the pagoda and flip them back normally.

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>>2321127
Masterful engineering.

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>>2312020
REE!!!
It's pronounced iou-to (硫黄島), stop appropriating Japanese culture.

>>2312015
Lol, the idea of the dreadnought was already outdated by WWII. There's a reason it sunk to a shit ton of planes, not another boat.