/his/, is the church during the "dark ages" as bad

>>2306069
how the hell should I know what your hypothetical bad history professor claim, if you want to know something ask a real question

>how bad was it compared to other religions of the period
what period and religion are we talking about

>>2306069
Three words for you
Islamic
Golden
Age

But in all seriousness, it was both the church and the kings that kept everything stagnant. Meanwhile, the Eastern Roman Empire was still keeping up with the Islamic nations with their Roman bureaucracy and them employing Muslim scholars for some work, not to mention retaining a great deal of knowledge lost to other European nations during the fall of Rome.

>>2306069

It was literally Hitler.

>>2306069
Mate. History professors DON'T deem the dark ages bad, that's the entire point. The new categorisations of Late Antiquity and Early Middle Ages have completely replaced the term. Since the 1960s historians have become obsessed with, instead of shitting on the period, playing up its strengths. The vibrancy of religion, the formation of nations etc.

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>>2306069
nah

Literally no fucking history professor would even use the term the Dark Ages anymore

Why don't you actually try studying history or something

The dark ages did exist, though both sides of the spectrum exaggerate. No one can deny that there is a HUGE vaccuum of both scientific advances and records / archives of any kind in Europe, starting with the fall of Rome until the High Middle Ages, or maybe the Coronation of Charlemagne if you're generous.

>>2306815
Is a terrible meme, because most of the scientists he names are either no name philosophers or pretty unimportant scientists in the VERY late middle ages (13th century usually, some even in the 15th century).

>>2306905
The point here is that the Dark Ages did exist, though the term doesn't apply to all of the Middle Ages, and instead just the Early Middle Ages.

>>2306905
To be fair, he specifically says that 500-1000 AD was a dark age, and is mostly arguing that 1000-1500 AD is the exact opposite.

The only real meme is the /pol/ logo on the bottom right.

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Regardless of terminology, the church from 500-1000 is considered actually a little more lax in the way of social control than it became from 1500 onwards.

I've always felt like, in an age where people were basically part of different glorified tribes the church was something which stepped up to go "dont kill everyone, lets follow some basic rules of decency" at a basic level.

Of course this was used and abused by many individuals and the impact is two sided.

On one side its "The church was simply another tool of social control exercised by the nobility"

On the other side its "The church gave peasants a reason to live from one day to another, and it encouraged a general stability which was sorely lacking in other areas of the world. That and even the nobility wern't above the church (excommunications, religious lifestyle expectations etc...)".

You'll find that in societites where life is rough, if people feel like they are all under something greater, that it's easier to cope with your own hardships.

Source: Not much really, just general reading and the odd documentary here or there, so take that for what it is.

>>2306069
>as history professors deem them to be
Bullshit.

>>2306069
>as bad as history professors deem them to be?
Are you retarded? It's history professors who always say there were no Dark Ages.

And even the ones who do say the Dark Ages happened put it between 400 to 800 or 1000 AD in Western Europe, and always mention how the church was basically the main 'civilizing' force of the time.

>>2306815
>depicting sex and nudity are bad and degenerate

>>2308410
*is

None of my history professors ever called the Church "bad" during the """"dark"""" ages.

There were moments of fuckery during the medieval period but that's not a reflection on the Church as an institution.

>>2306069

Dark Ages is an old term, it's better to call them the Christian Ages, that way it's clear where the fault for the backwardness lies.