Why is Napoleon held in such high regard? His empire lasted like

>>2305214
He did conquer half of Europe.

Because he really was a military genius on par with Alexander and Caesar and also didn't commit any huge atrocities (according to 19 century standards) so he wasn't really hated by his enemies.

>>2305232
>military genius
>lost

>>2305260
>(according to 19 century standards)
Goya could not unsee what his troops did to spanish pesants

>>2305280
That wasn't really Nappy's fault though
>>2305214
t. ETERNALLY asshurt anglo

>>2305265
So did Hanibal. You can be on the loosing side but still have a great skill.

>>2305300
But England beat him and sent him to die on St Helena

>>2305280

>muh firing squad painting

>>2305320

yes, because they allied with the German

they could never have invaded without treachery

>>2305326
>Y-Y-You only won because of all the clever things you did

please stop posting

>>2305214
Posterboy of enlightened leadership + as the above poster said he's with Alexander and Caesar. Also that same post could apply to Alexander.

>>2305265
This isn't sports dummy. Caesar also lost.

>>2305320
Yeah it only took so much and bankrolling so many coalitions until finally beating him with hardly any military strength.

>>2305449
So England beat him, captured him and send him to die on St Helena.

>>2305265
Everybody loses in the end.

>>2305477
Stalin didn't

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>>2305214
>His empire lasted like 2 decades
Ruling Europe for two decades is more glorious than ruling 3rd world shitholes for centuries

>After his damage France be an irrelevant shithole
Compared to before, sure
Compared to the rest of Europe, not really
France just passed from godlike to average

>Also he was Italian and not even French.
Which makes his feats even more umpressive
He overcame his Italian genetics and became good at war despite of them

>>2305479
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union

>these serious replies

he's trolling you retards (I hope)

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>>2305280
Wanna talk about what British troops did to Spanish civilians they were supposed to liberate?

>>2305484
Stalin died before that happened

>>2305330
Needing help to win = being clever?
Why don't Brits say of France in WW1 that it was "clever" instead of saying it needed to be saved then

>>2305482
>Ruling Europe for two decades is more glorious than ruling 3rd world shitholes for centuries

>w-w-we didn't want those resources, markets the ability to spread our language or culture we just wanted alsea larone (or what ever it is called hah) ugly dumb frog scum

>>2305462
As the Eternal Anglo will always do

so everybody agrees he wass italian uh ? this board deserves the bait threads as deep as it can get

>>2305744

well of course corsicans aren't italian, and at the time of napoleon they had recently been acquired by the nefarious culture stomping french

so really, he's not french by birth, though he came to see it as his own later in life

>>2305758
the french in themselves aren't an ethnicity though.
There are italian french, germanic french, nordic french, celtic french, hispanic french, etc
The french country has never been composed of one ethnicity like Germany for instance.

>>2305830

his country was originally not france

understand that

>>2305840
Less than half of France was originally France. Your point?

>>2305877

your post is pointless

corsica had been freshly conquered by france you arguing git

>>2305947
He was still a french citizen. Which is just about what being french is.

>>2305961

tell that to the Corsicans of that time that resisted the french into the late 1700s

>>2305214

It is beter to conquer and lost, than never conquer at all.

>>2305983
Their opinion is irrelevant unless they successfully secede

>>2305996

you just can't admit one point that you're wrong about

>>2306022
Nor hum but there is not even debate about whether or not he is French. Can any credible historian claim he's not? Why are you working so hard to disassociate him with France?

>>2306130
Not him* Fucking mobile.

>>2305462
Well the British had sent themselves off to die on England Island, so they thought Napoleon would just enjoy himself that way.

>>2306324
I can't understand this sentence.

>>2305501

>getting invaded
>clever

hmm

>>2305501
It is clever to fight with allies but essaily Britain in WWI with the naval power they had.

>>2305320
>England

you mean Scotland, Wales, Ireland, and """England""" ofc

>>2306360
>welsh
>human

please stop this meme

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>>2306373

>implying

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>nobody mentions Napoleon's lawriting as one reason he is held to such high reward

>>2306984
>or the metric system

>>2305214
>his empire lasted like 20 years
>lived to 52
Almost half of his life was made of triumph and glory, and even before he was emperor he had lots of great things he accomplished

>>2305260
I don't have my source but i've read that there was actually rampant corruption under him where you had government figures selling off medical supplies meant for the army and nothing was ever done about it.
Pretty fucking gruesome when you consider the reality of what being wounded was like at the time.

>>2307140
Sounds like Anglo propaganda.

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>>2305214
Why is Hitler held in such high regard? His empire lasted like 2 decades and was almost captured by Russia and then he killed himself in the last island of nazi turf in Berlin. After his damage Germany be an irrelevant shithole. Also he was Austrian and not even German.

>>2305496
he lost to himself

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>after his damage france be an irrelevant shithole
>he was italian not even french

>>2305214
Because he shook Europe to it's core and left a legacy of legal systems and democracy.

>>2306130
honestly why are you even arguing with an idiot

>>2307894
>Hitler
>Held in high regard

>>2306410
fucking kek

>>2307894
>Also he was Austrian and not even German

so that's one thing he had going for him

>>2305506
I'm a brit, and Napoleon is far and away more glorious than anyone we ever produced.

>>2305482
>Italian genetics

You know modern day Italians are almost genetically 100% identical to ancient Romans right?
Even the memes about the North-South divergence and Moors/Greeks/Scandinavians/French/German rapebabies are rooted in no science.

>>2309800
Lord Byron is pretty based.

>>2305744
>>2305758
But he actually was Italian by blood. His family descended from minor Tuscan nobility. All of them. He was as Italian by blood as one could possibly be... He spoke Italian and Corsican before even learning French.
He even is reported to have said "I am of the race that builds empires" in reference to his Italian heritage....

>>2310194
Trafalgar too

>>2310196
Someone called him non-French once and he took it as a deep personal insult.

>>2308159
on /pol/ i should have added :^)

>>2310535
Thats great. Its not like its mutually exclusive. He spent his whole childhood getting made fun of for being Corsican born. He was nationally french and ethnically Italian. He was an extreme Corsican nationalist when he was young even. Read about him and Pasquale Paoli.

>>2310758
you mean like 0.00001% of the population?

>>2310806
thats the joke