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ITT, we post historical misconceptions we had as a child: >thought

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ITT, we post historical misconceptions we had as a child:

>thought that George Washington was from Washington DC and that he chopped down one of the cherry trees that the Japanese gave to us
>also thought that the cherry trees in DC were peace gifts after WWII
>thought that when people died, their skin just instantly dissapated in seconds and they became skeletons immediately
>thought that Rome was still a real place because my friend's parents hired actors to pretend to be Roman legionnaires for his birthday and they told me they were from Rome
>thought that the Queen of England had the power to chop off peoples' heads, and that that was like her only job because of Alice in Wonderland
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>>2300570

>thought that Rome was still a real place

Uhh
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>>2300587
I mean the Roman Empire. Are you going to contribute?
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>>2300570
Wow what a fucking dum dum.
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>>2300570
>thought that Hitler was a wild west villain for absolutely no discernible reason
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>>2300570
I used to think King Kong was a true story
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>>2300629
I remember when I first heard of Hitler by a friend when I was way below 10. "Mom told me once an evil ruler lived here and he had a sign but im not allowed to draw it" . I pressed on for him to draw it out of curiosity and the way we guiltily scribbled it away afterwards and changed the place of conversation made me imagibe hitler as some kind of black wizard/Sauron with magic runes for a short while.
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>>2300570
I thought Brussels was in Great Britain because an Empire Earth map from the British campaign played in Brussels.
For the same reason, I also thought that Rostock (a city in North Germany) was in Russia.
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>>2300664
I had a friend, when I was little, who was really into cowboys. He must have mentioned Hitler, which is why I thought he was a cowboy.

Also, when I was in elementary school, my edgy friends were all over the Nazis, and drew swastikas on the slide us weird kids hung out at.
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>>2300678
There is a "Rostov" in Russia
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>>2300688
Huh... that makes much more sense.
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I once asked my parents if the Huns had been allied to the Aztecs at some point in history. If you've played AoE II, you might know where I got that idea.
>>2300688
>>2300692
I played that game too, can confirm it was Rostov.
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I once thought Egypt was inhabited by vaguely white people, and that the British Empire was one of the most monstrous things in existence for what they did to the Native Americans.
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>>2300570
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>>2300570
.Thought Gandhi was a good peaceful role model
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>>2300831
He was a good role model, unless you're a complete cuck and are cool with sucking the dick of a foreign power owning your land, in which case please gas yourself.
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>>2300809
>720p
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>>2300570
I thought the Yugoslav conflict was Bosnia waging a war against Herzegovina
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>>2300650
>>2300629
>>2300587
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>>2300866
yeah he was a cool guy but most people think he's cool for the wrong reasons
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When I was taught about the Spanish Inquisition as a kid in Jewish religious school I was led to believe that they just rounded up all the Jews and tortured them then burned them at the stake. It was only much later that I learned it was only the idiots who refused to either leave or convert.
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>>2300885
Eh, they also tortured people who had converted but were suspected of ceing crypto-jews. In practice, this mean a lot of people would accuse the descendants of converted jews of being secret jews out of spite or as a ruse to steal their property. I do agree that the issue was oversimplified for modern audiences.
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>>2300798
Some might call Arabs white. They'd be wrong, though.
And the Brits didn't make the diseases, they just introduced them.
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>>2300885
>Jew
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>>2300909
>Some might call Arabs white. They'd be wrong, though.
A century ago they said Irish and Italians weren't White. 'Whiteness' is a meme.
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i used to think Aachen was in France
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>>2300570
I thought that Germany was just another side in WW2. There was no good or evil and the war just sort of happened because of bureaucratic bullshit like every other war.
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>>2300924
>A century ago they said Irish and Italians weren't White.
Nobody except random nobodies said this. The US government and well renowned racialist certainly didn't.
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>>2300948
>I thought that Germany was just another side in WW2. There was no good or evil and the war just sort of happened because of bureaucratic bullshit like every other war.
>inplying this isn't true
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>>2300948
Ummm anon i..
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>>2300956
>what is the KKK
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>>2300956
Ah yes, the US government, the governing authority Whiteness (tm). You might be interested to read that in 1909, the US government decreed that Syrians, Turks, and Arabs were White:

http://www.arabamericanhistory.org/archives/dept-of-justice-affirms-arab-race-in-1909/
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I used to think Italy was actually a thing before 1861, just in form of some kind of confederation, and that the Holy Roman Empire was current-day Germany under a cooler name.
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>>2300866
Sure, if you're an anti-vaxxer obsessed with his own poo.
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I thought the holy Roman empire was
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I didn't know the sea of Marmara connected the Dardanelles and the Bosporus until I was like 26.
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Bump. I am interested in hearing more of these.
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I thought UK, England, and Britain used to refer to the same thing.
I thought Taiwanese people were just stuck up narcissists like New Yorkers instead of being a politically exiled demi-nation.
I thought Robert E Lee fought for the Union because everyone sucks his dick.
I thought Woodrow Wilson, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover were the same person. Not as in someone with 3 names, but whenever someone mentioned one of them, I amalgamated all three's accomplishments.
I thought the Greek philosophers were a part of Rome.
I thought Russia was always USSR.

Related, I still refer to Czechoslovakia a lot enough though it no longer exists.
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Thought Prussia still existed until i asked a Polish person if Poland was near Prussia and they laughed in my face.
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>>2302483
Rightful clay
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>>2300880
I was like 7 and I didn't think it was that inpossible that there'd be an elephant sized gorilla at some point in history and it would end up climbing skyscrapers and getting killed before I was born. I only saw a clip of the movie and I wanted it to be true. It was also a factor in me being obsessed with NYC as a kid.
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>>2302608
*impossible
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I knew BC meant Before Christ, but for some reason I thought AD meant After David. (I also wasn't aware of the large amount of time between David and Jesus.)
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I once thought that left automatically meant liberal and progressive and that right meant conservative and regressive. Then I understood that those notions can mean more than one thing and that the left-right dichotomy is bullshit and that I'd have to think for myself.
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>>2302608
That reminds me. I thought unicorns were real because I saw one on Xena, and the idea of a horse with a horn doesn't really seem impossible.
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>>2300570
> thought Germany and Japan were still "evil"
> thought that Britain and the US were still at odds with one another over the the declaration of independence.
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>>2300570
Funniest one that I can remember from my childhood is
>If a Peruvian enters Chile then they will be captured and their head will be cut off
I never really thought badly of Chileans and I remember in highschool when I met some Chilean exchange students they were pretty chill. Although brainwashing can go a long way and so my a part of my mind would tell me to stay away from them or that they'll do something horrible in this very instant such as suicide bomb the room.
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>>2302949
My mom is Peruvian and she used to have nightmares about the Chileans invading, so maybe this one isn't uncommon.
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>>2302672
as a kid I thought AD meant after death
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>>2302913
Are you implying that show wasn't a 100% accurate representation of life in Mycenaean Greece?
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I remember when I was little watching the movie History of the World (part 1) and getting really confused at the French Revolution part because I thought revolution automatically meant the american revolution.

>why does it say 1793, don't they know the revolution started in 1776
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>>2300866
He was good unless you're black
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>>2300570
I don't know about misconceptions but I watched some WW2 movie and I literally couldn't grasp what the fuck Jews are supposed to be. I asked my mom and she said they're a nation, but then also said they're a religion and it just seemed so incomprehensible to me.
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>>2302958
It's really interesting to me how a conflict back in the 1800s can still breed so much hatred. Although we're nothing compared to the Balkan nations' history of conflict and hatred between each other. That reminds me of two things actually. When I look at a map I still at times expect Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia to be there even though they're long gone. I also still can't believe that the Soviet Union collapsed give or take 26 years ago. It feels like it wasn't that long ago but I'm only almost 20. Then again I remember thinking as a child that dreadnought ships were some of the most powerful weapons we have. Guess a part of me is still stuck in the 1800s then because of that unconscious hatred.
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>>2303003
>I expect Czechoslovakia to be there
>I'm only 20
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>>2303003
>tfw there will never be another south american dreadnought race
>tfw there will never be another dreadnought race
feels bad man
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>>2303009
Almost 20. Have you ever been told in the background soundwaves of your everyday life of something horrible that happened in the 1800s and continue on learning about history in your free time? It can cause someone to think that something that happened 40 to 100 years ago wasn't that long ago at all. Hell when somebody says old movies I think of the 1910s. I moved to the U.S. at a young age so it's not like it was it continued on into my adolescence. I guess sometimes the feelings of the collective consciousness of fellow countrymembers can rub off on you.
>>2303018
I will always miss the aesthetics of those glorious cannons.
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>>2303031
Well I was actually born and raised in Czechoslovakia and even the younger generations born in '93 from the area don't know shit about it, so it seems pretty absurd a 20 year old from the other side of the planet would expect it to exist, that's all.
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>thought that the American Revolution, Napoleonic Wars, American Civil War, etc. were all fought with modern technology, with the only difference being how they dressed
>thought the atomic bombs destroyed all of Japan and it was repopulated by a handful of survivors
>right after 9/11 happened I thought the Afghan army consisted entirely of bearded men in kamikaze jets
>I thought the Cold War was an actual war between US and Russia, and it was called the "Cold War" because it was fought in Russia
>I thought drawing a swastika on something literally put a magical curse on it, proceeded to draw swastikas on things I didn't like
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>>2303042
Even though we may not be as developed as other nations certain schools still try to give their young ones an education. I'm very thankful for that. Also I now realize that /his/'s memeing with Otto von Bismarck has caused me to idolise him and his ability to unify states into something greater. Even though he himself caused his own share of problems that were out of his control.
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>thought the 2nd and 3rd reichs were the same thing
>thought the war in the pacific was an easy victory secured solely by the USMC
>thought gun names were determined by how many bullets they held, which is why the Americans lost Vietnam (M-16 vs AK-47)
>No knowledge of US engagements outside of Independence, Civil, WW1&2, 'nam, and iraq
>Thought all Romans were gay
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>>2303046
>right after 9/11 happened I thought the Afghan army consisted entirely of bearded men in kamikaze jets
kek
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>>2303087
>>thought the war in the pacific was an easy victory
You weren't exactly wrong about that if you're a yank.
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>one state per president
>all dinosaurs lived during the same time
>Lincoln was the 5th president because 5 dollar bill
>Native Americans were cool and pilgrims were boring every Thanksgiving
>Greece turned into Rome

I know there are more but I honestly can't remember that far back. I took an interest to history early so I got my facts straight for the most part.
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>>2303046
>Afghan army consisted entirely of bearded men in kamikaze jets
It's actually kind of an accomplishment of American propaganda to make people believe 9/11 was conducted by Afghans. I was almost 20 when it happened but I wouldn't be surprised if people who were little kids back then believed all sorts of bullshit about that war.
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>>2303087
>>Thought all Romans were gay
well by modern standards they were definitely a whole hell of a lot gayer than any society that currently exists. They felt that having sex with another man was 100% hetero as long as you were the top.

>can you believe this faggot with my cock in his ass
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>>2303149
in 2003 a majority of americans thought Iraq was behind 9/11

oh and remember these?
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I thought Hitler was the bad guy. Oh, and I also thought it was cool to be edgy.
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I thought Portugal was a South American country
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When I was little I was obsessed with WW2 stuff, I mean 4 years old and I wanted to read books about WW2 tier obsessed. Of course, I could hardly read well, but I liked seeing the pictures of all the tanks and planes and battleships and stuff. I was reading on a third grade level by 1st grade, actually, but that's besides the point.

Anyways I understood enough about WW2 that Germans were the "bad guys" and America was the "good guys" and I thought the American flag was the star you usually see painted on Shermans or what have you and of course the Nazi Swastika I came to associate with Germany. I loved to draw WW2 stuff, and I'd label what was what with flags. I also ended up starting Kindergarten when I was 4.

So anyways my parents got called to a parent teacher conference after my teacher saw me drawing an American tank fighting a German tank. They had to explain I was just really into WW2, and that we weren't actually Nazis despite the fact I was drawing a half dozen Swastikas a day.
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>>2303190
While in reality it's African.
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>>2303191
>parent being called and having to explain to the school he isn't a nazi just because his son drew a swastika
This is some USSR tier shit
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>>2303201
It was a small, quiet American town. The teacher was mostly just confused why a 4 year old kid was drawing Swastikas on the wall and building MP40s out of Lincoln Logs.

From what my parents told me they all laughed pretty hard after my mom explained it. Although my teacher still wasn't pleased when I'd build machine guns out of the blocks.
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>>2302709
When I was a kid, and I learned that my state was Republican, I was unhappy, since my liberal mother had taught me that Republicans are evil. Now, I'm pretty happy about that.
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>>2303042
I hear that you guys didn't actually want to split. What do you think?
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>>2303225
Most people didn't but politicians had other ideas. I think both Czechs and Slovaks are extremely passive and peaceful people who just eventually accept whatever shit is pushed on them, so they got used to this too.
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>>2303238
But, if you had a referendum to reunite, what would you vote? People you know?
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>>2303268
That's actually a pretty difficult question and I have no fucking idea. I think the answer depends on what would cause the referendum.
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>>2303293
In each country, a new leader is elected who, while also generally having good policies, wants to reunite, though that wasn't what really got him elected, necessarily. They decide to hole mutual referendums.

What now?
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>>2303351
I'm guessing yes by a narrow margin.
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>>2303367
In both, do you think?
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>>2300917
>(((history and humanities)))
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>>2300629
I would pay good money to watch a western with cowboy Hitler.
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>>2301158
Same here. I mostly assumed that modern countries were the same forever.
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>>2300570
I didn't know what World War One was. I knew WWII was called World War Two but I didn't think about the fact that there had to be a first one.
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>>2300972
That would be pretty weird considering a massive chunk of the KKK had Irish ancestry.
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I used to think that all of south America was Brazil. I just never looked that long at that part of the map.
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>>2303649
I used to think Mexico was South America and to be honest I still don't know why they aren't considered at least central American. They definitely belong in the same group as Guatemala and Honduras rather than the USA and Canada.
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>>2300570
I thought byzatine was just another empire instead of being part of roman empire.
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>>2303671
>they aren't considered at least central American.
They aren't? Really?
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>>2303622
Bullshit. Unless you mean memey "2/97ths" muh huritage, or simply confusing actual Irish with Scots-Irish

The KKK are a retardestant group through and through
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>>2300570
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I used to think that Popes were these Chinese emperor-like figures that plebs were forbidden from even looking at, and they could make and unmake kings at will. Like, they could just send a letter ordering a king to abdicate his throne and he would without any hesitation out of respect for the papal office.

Alexander the Great was a much more ancient figure. Out of a bronze age Trojan War period, not immediately before Rome started to become a major power.

Money didn't exist until very recently. Reading about fealty and honor and such, I figured that knights soldiers up until about the 1800s all fought in battles solely out of loyalty to their king, because it was their duty to do so, and they received no payment for it.

I used to think London was in France for some reason.
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>>2300956
Youre out of your fucking MIND if you think italians EVER counted as white give me a fucking break
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>>2300926
It used to be at the heart of the Frankish realm.
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>>2302417
>Taiwan
>demi-nation.
What makes you think they aren't a real nation in their own right?
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I didn't know that the Holy Roman Empire existed or that any of the kingdom and states like Prussia excised. I thought it was all Austro-Hungaria and later Nazi Germany once Austro-Hungaria fell apart.
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>>2304391
The problem is judging the situation through the judeofascist lense of nationalism. Taiwan is part of China. China is not monolithic.
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>>2304446
Taiwan is not part of China.
It's an independent nation that isn't recognized, because people don't want to piss off China.
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>>2304446
>looking at China as a non-westphalian state when even the chinese don't think that
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>>2300924
Stop this fucking lie already.
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>>2300570
I used to think that Otto von Bismarck was the Kaiser and that he started WW1.
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>>2303622
The KKK, especially during the early 20th century, was very clear that it stood against Irish and Italian immigrants, especially Catholics. I'm not sure where you get your facts from but I'm guessing it's your ass
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>>2304549
Ulster Irish people are still Irish, not all Irish have to be Catholics you fucking retard.
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I thought Maria Theresa and Mother Teresa were one and the same person.
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>>2304566
Up the ra
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>>2304539
Me too actually
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>>2300570
>I used to think everybody spoke Spanish naturally because it's my natural language (Argentina). When taught that people in Britain spoke English, in France French and so on, I just assumed people in these countries were still born speaking Spanish but collectively chose to learn and speak a second language on top of it instead. I did not understand language adquisition at all.

>I used to think Halloween was originally an Argentine festivity rather than an inherited Irish/Anglo tradition

>I used to think the Soviets got to the Moon after the USA, just because of that whole "space race" name

>I though the Cold War was called like that because Russia is a really cold country

>I thought we literally descended from monkeys
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>>2304263
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stoddard_race_map_1920.jpg
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As someone who grew up in Portugal, I for the longest time believed everyone in the world thought the Earth was flat until Magellan's voyage, that we never had problems with the jews and that was just a spanish thing, that we were the first country in Europe to abolish slavery, were super nice to native americans and that Goa was just given to us without any problems.
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>>2304716
This explains why Argentinians think the Falklands belong to them, it all makes sense now.
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>>2304799
Nope pretty sure it was just my 6 year old self being retarded.
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>>2300570
When I was a kid, I thought Zulus were "MooMoos" because of their cowhide shields.
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>>2304716
>literally descended
Wat
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>>2303487
I used to think WWI happened a few hundred years sooner than it did, and it was fought with knights and swords and bows.
>>2304716
I used to think German was the "normal" language and all other languages were just weird that way. I don't know how this made sense in my head.
Also, I thought that
>England was really densely populated, so that you had to squeeze through narrow spaces wherever you go (the German word eng means tight or narrow).
>East Asians all have a speech impediment and can't pronounce <r>
>middle ages were around 1500 and antiquity was from 0 to 1000
>Low German is the language of the Frisians, and Frisians only
>got really confused when my grandma said people in the villages in Southern Lower Saxony once spoke Low German too. This wasn't East Frisia after all.
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>toilets, toilet paper etc existed since the dawn of time
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>>2300629
My Grnadpa was actually in WW2. When I asked him about it as a kid he made stuff up about it.

He told me Hitler flew a plane that shot Jew-seeking missiles. He also told me that the Nazis had both werewolf AND vampire divisions and that he was given weaponized garlic bread along with his grenades and gasmask (which were still in his closet, he said he ate the garlic bread).

I later found out that he just sat around in an airfield and never saw any actual combat. But I wanted to believe.
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>>2306030
kek, that is hysterical. If it is true, your grandpa is a real bro.

My great grandpa once accidentally lit a swastika flag on fire at his garden party.
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>>2304816
This may be the dumbest thing in the thread
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>>2300809
Go away Tom
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I remember, as a kid, finding asian people very alien, so much, that when I would come across an Asian person, I would try to avoid eye contact to hide my expression of frustration. I recall finding their eyes inexpressive and the fact that their irises were nearly black made me think they look soulless.

tl:dr My child self thought that white faces were the norm and Asians looked like uncanny valley bootleg people
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>>2306375
fucking kek
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>>2300902
>implying that's not how it goes
Crypto Jews are a real threat. Consider John Leibowitz
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>>2306396
He changed his name due to having a shitty relationship with his father. It's not some scheme to pull the wool over the goyim's eyes you paranoid nutjob.
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>>2305529
>>England was really densely populated, so that you had to squeeze through narrow spaces wherever you go (the German word eng means tight or narrow).
That's true though
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>>2306084
>accidentally
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>>2306084
>"damn anon that's a nice garden party"
>the
>"hi gramps"
>fk.jpg
"Hey sunny ya know what would make this better ?"
>plsno. avi
>"my assorted swastika collection "
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IIRC I thought muslims(and/or jews) in the middle east were devil worshipers that caused all the strife in the middle east. This came from the Deacon speaking to kindergartners in PSR so I probably misunderstood what he said but I did think that conflict in the middle east was due to devil worshipers at one point.
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>>2305199
As in a linear progression, rather than the whole common ancestor thing.
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>>2307951
Ah for some reason I took "descend" literally like "humans crawled down from monkeys"
No idea what went wrong in my brain
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>>2304716
I also used to think that people all over the world spoke my native tongue, they just made up new ones to challenge themselves (and, I will admit it here, subconsciously I sometimes expect English-speaking people to suddenly switchto flawless Italian, even if I rationally know that's retarded.)

I used to think that monarchical absolutism existed since the Antiquity.

I used to think everyone in the world was a Roman Catholic Christian.

I used to think math was invented by Arabs, and that Charlemagne created public school.
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>>2306375
I Used to thimk they all knew knug fu, so I was a bit scared of them
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When I was super young there was a brief period that I thought the reason why old pictures/videos were in black and white was because the world was black and white.
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I thought Christopher Columbus was British
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I thought that the Cold War was just from some time in the late 40s until the Cuban Missile Crisis
Also that there must have been like seven world wars by now
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>>2302417
>I thought UK, England, and Britain used to refer to the same thing.
I did too, but it's because no one bothered to explain to me the difference between nation, state and country.
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>>2303046
>>I thought drawing a swastika on something literally put a magical curse on it, proceeded to draw swastikas on things I didn't like
Cute
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>>2300678
>Empire Earth
mah nigga

and if it makes you feel any better I also made the Rostock/Rostov mistake, and well as getting confused between Veronezh/Verona
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Until maybe six or seven, I thought God looked like George Washington, exactly as he appeared on the one dollar bill. I still couldn't help but picture God with the face of George Washington well into my teens. (Hell, I think I still do, occasionally.)

What really bothers me about this, is when I mention this to my friends of about the same age as myself, they nearly all report the same, the only real exceptions being the few who were born outside of the states.
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>>2308705
this says so much about America
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>>2300570
I used to only half pay attention to my dad's extensive rambling about his dadrock and ended up with some garbled ideas about Beatles lore. Like I thought they broke up after John died and that Ringo's real name was Billy Shears.
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>>2306498
>>2306542
My grandfather was born into a social democrat family so they weren't all too keen on the Nazis taking over. The way my grandpa told it to me, it went something like this.
>sometime in the 1930s
>his father hosts a garden party
>hangs up a swastika flag
>because that's just how people rolled back then
>it had small metal weights in it so that it would fly and look great
>weights touched the electric fence
>caught fire
>huge scandal because it surely must have been on purpose.
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>>2308520
http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-8900-ex
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>>2300570
When I was younger I was sceptical that blacks actually existed
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As a kid I used to think the Czech Republic was the biggest country in the world
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>>2309844
>t.Czechian
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>>2308709
But are the things it says bad?
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You know, now that I think about it, when I was a kid, I used to not know the difference between my home state of Indiana and my home city of Indianapolis, and used to think both my state and the country looked like boots.
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>>2311058
Is Florida supposed to be the heel?
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>>2311094
Yep.
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>>2308705
>In God We Trust
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>>2300874
that one made chuckle
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>>2302709
this took me until my mid to late 20's and I'm still struggling with it
I can tell lots of other people are too
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>>2300570
Since I've been interested in history from such a young age, and watched history shit on TV, had 'history for kids' magazines (along with science, nature, technology, and other stuff) it's hard for me to separate what was naive child knowledge...

I will say that knowledge of Native American/Indians was very weak and often wrong and cliché, and barely taught in school besides. In hindsight it's embarrassing considering I'm an American who lives in a city/area with relatively more Indians. Like for example, I just assumed all Indians had horses since forever (and not that they were re-introduced by the Spanish), and were some kind of eco-warriors who were only pissed that whitey was trashing their land. That they sometimes fought brutally amongst each other, or built complex small towns and traded and actually often shifted their territories over decades was completely lost on me.
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I thought that Julius Caesar was the first emperor of Rome.

And that Lenin was Stalin's father because their names sound similar.
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>>2302709
>>2311333
Are you guys US-Americans? I feel like political education over there doesn't cover the difference between right and left and authoritarian and liberal. Hence all the misconceptions about healthcare being a socialist thing and anarcho-communism being an oxymoron.
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>>2311340
Isn't it considered racist and offensive to call them Indians in America? In Germany, the most common term for them still is "Indianer" which is bascially the same thing. We use "Inder" for people from India, so at least we can tell the two apart. I've started using "Uramerikaner" (original Americans) because I still find the term stupid.
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>>2311674
No.
Where did you get that idea?
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>>2306375
>My child self thought that white faces were the norm and Asians looked like uncanny valley bootleg people
I'm 30 years old and I still think that
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>>2301158

so you got it the wrong way around
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>>2311676
I have only ever heared the term Native Americans being used in recent media that isn't set in the 19th century or before.
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I thought nations that were always divided until somewhat recently (Greece, Italy, Germany etc) were always that way. I literally didn't know about the HRE's existence and that Italy was actually a bunch of different countries until I was 15 and played EU3.
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>>2311674
>>2311676
>>2311752
"Indian" is not the politically correct term and not what white people are supposed to use, especially in media, but most ACTUAL Indians/Native Americans frequently use the term 'Indian' to refer to themselves in a broader racial sense. Why? Because it's the term white people called them for 500 years, and it's kinda sunk in. In my experience, I've had a few 'Native American' colleagues roll their eyes when such politically correct terms are used -- it's still not a term THEY use or created, so it's still 'foreign'.

Plus, 'Indian' is still used officially by the state in many instances.

From my experiences, most actual Indians/Native Americans refer to themselves (and prefer to be called) by their tribe/band/nation name first and foremost. So: Sioux, Navajo, Creek, Blackfoot, Mohawk, Oneida, etc.
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That classic Latin is pronounced totally different to expectations.

Julius Caesar should be pronounced "Iulius Ky-ser", Cicero like "Keekero" or veni vedi vici like 'wenny widdy weeki".
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>>2311797
Like all living languages, Latin changed over time and it was the main language of the different states of Rome for more than a thousand years. Quite a lot can happen in that large a timeframe. The famous saying would have been pronounced /ˈweː.niː ˈwiː.diː ˈwiː.kiː/ in Classical Latin.
Literary scholars regularly get butthurt about langauge change, so they classified Latin and famous works into Golden, Silver and Vulgar Latin. "Vulgar Latin" - that is the form of Latin that was spoken during the latter few hundred years of the Roman Empire - is what spawned all the modern-day Romance languages. A few changes had already taken place at that point.
/k/ before /e/ and /i/ had undergone palatalization into /c/, which then turned into /t͡ʃ, t͡s, s, θ/ in different languages over time. Hence why Caesar is usually pronounced the same as seizer in English. The ten vowels with two different quantities had turned into just seven with no distinction between long and short ones.
I guess my point is, Latin was pronounced in hundreds of different way over its 2700 year history, take your pick as to how you wanna pronounce the words. It's probably not wrong.
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>>2300587
It is still around, our capital is Istanbul
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I thought that USA invaded Germany and Hitler committed suicide after Japan was nuke. Also WWII ended the same year I was born
Jesus was killed when he was little (either a baby or a child) went to heaven and then ressurected
Anyone could be born with black skin (as I believed to be the case with other genes)
Ancient Egyptians rode camels, played music that I would later discover to be Arabian, and in modern day Egypt hieroglyphics were used.
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>>2312209
One, it's Constantinople, two, it's currently occupied by the Roach Empire, three, it's not even their capital.
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>See entry in school manual about Romans gathering at forums
>Later tell my parents that Greeks used messenger
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Until yesterday I thought Pocahontas and Sakajaweea were the same person.
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I thought everything was in black and white before, because tv.
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I had never heard of the HRE and when I first saw it in Medieval 2 I though it was just medieval Germany. (The name seemed odd to me back then too)

I also thought the Sengoku and Edo periods with the Samurais n' shiet took place sometime around the 5th century BC, or at some other point in ancient history, I only learned that it was during the middle ages during High School.
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>>2311667
I don't think I've ever heard of political education in school proper, even as an elective
I an "American government" class in college and it explained the left-right spectrum and the authoritarian-libertarian spectrum and how they were separate
what's been getting me lately is that liberal-conservative is its own spectrum, there are people that believe in tradition that are authoritarian and others that are libertarian, people who reject it that are left-wing and others that are right-wing
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>>2311674
it kind of is technically, but a lot of people including a lot of Native Americans don't care
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>>2300570
>used to think England conquered Scotland in WW1
Literally have no idea where i even got that one
>totally bought into the idea that Anastasia was alive
>thought that all warfare was just like LOTR and every war was decided in just one massive battle every time
This one stuck until i saw the Ken Burns Civil War series in 5th grade
Funny enough I had the same idea about the queen of england and the emperor of japan
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I had a few growing up that I don't remember. I'm sure were all because of my mom, but I don't blame her, she grew up with dyslexia and no one knew what to do about it until she was in high school so she was mostly put in special ed.
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>>2302932
>thought Germany and Japan were still "evil"

You were right.
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>>2311667
>I feel like political education over there [in the USA] doesn't cover the difference between right and left and authoritarian and liberal.
It doesn't, and it can't, as almost all our political terms have come to mean their opposite - though, unlike Orwell's Ministry of Truth, this is more of an incidental effect than an intentional one, simply the result of each team taking everything they don't like, and associating it with the term used for the opposing team, even when each team is often naming the same entity. Both political parties claim to hate the "elite" and "authoritarian" for instance and claim to be working for the "common man" - whether any of these groups are left or right wing depends entirely on which team you're talking to.

Similarly, you get odd things where each party claims to value individual freedom, while simultaneously banning guns or advocating religious law, and the like.

This is among the reasons why the most powerful nation in the world so often collectively acts like a rooster with its head cut off, and so often commits to actions that directly oppose its rhetoric.
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>>2300629
What the fuck, I love this so much. If someone hasn't made a Cowboy Hitler comic, the internet isn't what I thought it was.
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>>2316044
>This town isn't big enough for the Jew of us.
>Gotta rangle me up some Jews, pardner
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>thought that George H.W Bush was a direct descendant of George Washington
>thought that when someone refers to British citizens as "Englishmen",they actually are Americans
>thought that Prussia and Russia are the same nation since they both have the same name
>thought that the whole of Ireland was a part of the UK
>thought that Auschwitz and Treblinka were the only camps the nazis run
>thought that Australia was an imaginary country
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>>2304252
I used to think London was in France for some reason.
Where do you live?
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>>2308561
You thought right chap! Any true colonizer is a Brit in spirit!
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>>2300570
>Trusting the demiurge
Trust has no place in the kingdom of G*d.
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>>2300570
I thought women had dicks and had to sit down because they shit out their dicks and pissed out their ass.
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>first trip to US when 5 years old
>parents and aunt take us to this funny restaurant with actors dressed as cowboys

For the next 3 years I thought cowboys were still around in the far west, fighting indians around stage-coaches à la Lucky Luke.

>Romans dont play games in the Coliseum because it has to be repaired first
>Drawing a swastika curses you, DO NOT DRAW SWASTIKAS
>There was some Gaul Revolution against Caesar that happened and that's why France stopped being part of that SPQR thing in Asterix books. And the same kind of thing happened in 1789
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>>2300570
>thought the Napoleonic wars and WWI were fought at the same time or only a few years apart
>on the 1st of January 1500 everybody stopped using metal armor and sharp weapons and switched to guns only
>Bulgaria and Russia were the same thing but different names
>Czech were a type Germans
>Poles are Hungarians
>the Kremlin towers were supposed to be stylized space rockets and they were built to honor the space race
>China was near the Black Sea
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>>2300798
>and that the British Empire was one of the most monstrous things in existence for what they did to the Native Americans.
they actually would have been better off under british rule than american
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>>2303671
>I still don't know why they aren't considered at least central American.
>>2303733
>They aren't? Really?

idiots
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>>2317446
Are you implying plate tectonics is related to regional nomenclature? I've seen "central America" include Mexico and even the Caribbean, the term is older than the theory for plate tectonics, so is the term "continents" aswell and any reference to plate tectonics is purely geological
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>>2317446
>tfw you live in the middle of the tectonic plate, near the biggest lake system in the world, away from the ocean, and you don't have to deal with any natural disasters ever
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>>2316093
I was confused when I first heard of Prussia too, I thought it was a region within Russia or something.
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>>2311785
I've only ever said Native American or just Native when it would've been confusing to use Indian because where I live there's a lot of Indians from India.
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>>2317484
>I've seen "central America" include Mexico and even the Caribbean,
that all used to be called "New Spain", and then it was all "Mexico and the Spanish west indies"

"regional nomenclature" is irrelevant because it changes all the time.

tectonic plates, not so much.
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>>2316490
Sometimes I quietly thank my parents for sending me to a kinda hippie preschool/daycare, where we were allowed to run around naked or in underwear if we wanted. I remember 'show me yours, show you mine' with almost every other girl. Even poked a few slits just to see what they felt like. Granted it would be like another 18 years again till I engaged in a grown up fun hairy version of this...
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>>2300629
>Be me
>1st grade
>Watching biographies to decide who to make a project on
>Tell the teacher I want to do Hitler
>She asks why
>"I like his logo and mustache"
>mfw I found out who Hitler was 2 years later
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>>2309729

I thought blacks were black because they sunbathed too much.
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>>2317498
I know that feel. I don't even really see tornados, over here.
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Faggots in elementary school would always argue that the USA was a democracy and not a republic. Same with kids not understanding Russia was no longer communist and the soviet union was dissolved.
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>>2317775
I learned in elementary school that it was an indirect democracy. I didn't find out until about 24 some faggots think a republic isn't a democracy for some reason.
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>thought colors came into be after the 40's because photography
>thought prussia was a typo
>thought brazil became independent when d. pedro 2nd screamed it
>thought global warming was real
and finally
>thought we would reach fallout 2 levels of armageddon after 2030 because of an educational video my teacher showed
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>>2318124
>thought global warming was real
The biggest Lizard-Masonist shill campaign of all time, amirite?
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>>2317775
>Faggots in elementary school would always argue that the USA was a democracy and not a republic.
Eh, I have news for you - that didn't end in elementary school - try making a thread about that here, and be ready to weep.

Granted, we do have *some* direct democracy when it comes to state and local law, but not a whole lot, and generally the reps can or do decide if something is or isn't going to be on that ballot, depending on the state.

We have the tech to give at least give people a say in daily law without slowing things down too much now - even if it'd just be an extra "anonymous and collective" representative. Argument against it is that it'd cause too much chaos, but really, I don't think everyone would be taking the time to vote every day, and the few that did would be better informed than most. I suspect it's more about those in power not wanting to give up their power, as per usual.

The other argument is, of course, that majority rule allows the majority to oppress the minority - but our model of representation really does nothing to prevent this, as it is (and can potentially accelerate that issue). You still need some sort of representation, regardless.

>>2318124
>thought we would reach fallout 2 levels of armageddon after 2030 because of an educational video my teacher showed
Which video might this be?
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>>2318145
Yes, because the Lizard-Masons who have all that money tied up in the energy sector and related industries, as does all the old money, really want said sectors to be over regulated and phased out.

Regardless of whether GW's a thing or not, you really gotta admire the propaganda that has people believing that the money and power is behind the advocates, rather than the denialists.
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>>2300629

>Cowboy Hitler

We can have him and his SS gang face off against a Jew who's actually capable of fighting back unlike your average Europoor Jew.
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>>2300570

>The right side won the Civil War
>Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia were evil
>The Soviet Union had good intentions
>The Vietnam War was winnable
>Bill Clinton was a good president
>George W. Bush was the Devil and Saddam Hussein could've remained in power indefinitely if we hadn't invaded.
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>>2318176
j000s and WERE RITE THEYRE RONG are not arguments

enjoy being in the same category as crystal healers and people who believe in water memory l m a 0
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>>2313168
>One, it's Constantinople
No. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcze7EGorOk
>two, it's currently occupied by the Roach Empire
Are you posting from an alternate universe where the Turkish War of Independence never happened? Because as far as I've been informed, they only occupied it for a little bit after WW1, until Ataturk and the boys kicked them out.
>three, it's not even their capital.
Obviously not. Even a child knows that's London.
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>thought that after WW2 Britain simply gave Israel to the Jews to be nice
>thought that the Mayans/Aztecs/Incas were the same thing and controlled all of South America
>thought as a British child up until I was about 7 that America was the same country as Britain they just spoke differently
>thought that aboriginals are half ape half human
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>>2318850
>>thought as a British child up until I was about 7 that America was the same country as Britain they just spoke differently
This is practically correct.
>>thought that aboriginals are half ape half human
This is also practically correct.
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>>2318850
Humans are 100% ape 100% human, because a human is a type of ape.
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My entire world view was shaped by this board game.

> thought Nazis were still in power
> thought Japan still held all the land they gained in their imperialist endeavors
> thought Japan surrendered first
> thought that tons of fighting in ww2 took place in fucking south america
> thought Japan bombed mainland USA
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>>2300570
>>thought that when people died, their skin just instantly dissapated in seconds and they became skeletons immediately
Was the Indiana Jones the first movie you ever saw or something?
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>>2319150
I think it was partly from Star wars and partly from this obscure live action German VHS I had about sleeping beauty. There's this part where some of the knights try to enter sleeping beauty's castle and are killed by magical vines and turn into skeletons.
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>>2318516
My point exactly.
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>>2308440
>monarchical absolutism existing since antiquity
had a pretty good laugh at this
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>>2300570
I use to think that the Civil War was fought over a woman called Dixe who looked something like these fine woman.
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>>2300885
Fresh off the MS Paint
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>>2311674
Here the faggots only really get mad, I call them natives because Indian is retarded, but still.
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>>2304752
>has to resort to the 1920s

Show me 1880 if you want a real argument
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>>2306030
Makes me think of Hey Arnold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkiqiK5yJEY
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When I was about 3 years old I had a USA puzzle map I played with a lot, and noticed 'Gulf of Mexico' on it. At the same time, I was vaguely familiar with the Gulf War from radio/television. Put it together, and I thought the war was between us and Mexico for quite a while.
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>>2315517
>I don't think I've ever heard of political education in school proper, even as an elective
Jesus fucking christ
At least you finally learned the basics in college.
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>>2315939
>It doesn't, and it can't, as almost all our political terms have come to mean their opposite
Yeah, that's what it looks like to me. I've heared liberalism being equated with socialism and communism so many times, it si giving me a headache.
>>2319720
Would fight a Trojan War over/10
>>2320116
When I played Battlefield II, I thought the MEC was Mexicans instead of some retarded middle-eastern strawman villains.
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I'm still really confused about how the fall of the Roman empire timeline coincides with the rest of Europes development.

As a kid, I thought Europe was literally tribal untill the late 1400s, at its' earliest, and that Charlemagne was some kind of heavenly saviour that rekindled civillization. Also, that CHarlemagne was born in the 1400s or similar.
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Looking at a map of Europe I thought Poland was Spain because they were both kind of square shaped.

I'm Czech so I don't even know how that worked.
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>Thought Britain and America were still in a cold war stand of with each other over the declaration of independence
>when my dad called his american relative on the phone I thought it was illegal

>thought britain and france still hated each other
>thought the 100 years war was literally 100 years of non stop battle

>thought king arthur and at george were the same person and saved england from dragons

>thought countries and nations have always been a thing and borders have always been as they were and places like germany and china have existed since caveman times

>thought germany literally wanted to take over the planet in ww2 and annex every country because my dad said if we lost we'd all be speaking german

>thought that everyone in the industrial revolution lived in london and worked in a dirty factory
>thought the industrial revolution was literally the worst thing ever and as bad as the holocaust

>thought asia was one massive plain

>thought china had always existed in its current state and still had an emperor

>thought ireland became independent in the 1980's

>when i heard a guy say the iraq war was about oil i thought we literally went in carrying big barrels to stuff the oil in

>thought africa was one massive desert
>thought egypt was also just a massive area of sand

>thought the roman empire collapsed because of jesus coming back from the dead and everyone hating caesar for killing him
>thought after it collapsed everyone went back to living in mudhuts and discovering fire

>thought denmark, the netherlands, holland, belgium and sweden were the same thing

>thought there really was a man on the moon who was looking at me all the time

>thought the australians hate us for sending them over there as criminals and they're always trying to kill us, england and australia are at war
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>>2320684
>>thought the 100 years war was literally 100 years of non stop battle
It wasn't?
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I thought there were only kingdoms and nations weren't a thing until the 18th century.
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>>2304467
>Taiwan is not part of China.
If you where to look at it from outside without considering the opinions of the inhabitants, sure.
But you have to see that both the ROC and PRC see Taiwan as a part of 'China'
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>thought England and France had always been best friends because I only knew of WWI and WWII
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>>2319720
>use to
American confirmed
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>>2303195
>t. Alberto
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>>2308520
Same. When I found out that film started to colourise in the 70s, I asked my parents in what year the world started getting colour. They laughed at me
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>>2320573
Are you French by any chance
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I used to think that the world had to be un-Nazi'd like in Idiocracy and was surprised to learn after watching Rat Race that neo-Nazi's were a thing.
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>>2300570
Thought Macedonia wasn't Bulgarian
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>>2320639
Don't confuse Galicia with Galicia.
>>2320684
>>thought denmark, the netherlands, holland, belgium and sweden were the same thing
How
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>>2320684
>>Thought Britain and America were still in a cold war stand of with each other over the declaration of independence
>>when my dad called his american relative on the phone I thought it was illegal
>>thought the australians hate us for sending them over there as criminals and they're always trying to kill us, england and australia are at war
Man, you really had a low opinion of the colonies.
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>>2320684
That last one was precious
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>>2320923
Silly anon. Nations weren't a thing until the 19th century.
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>>2320952
Not really. PRChina sees it as its own. But the commies have never controlled Taiwan, so the claim is weak. Basically it's 'muh 5 peoples! Han islanders + tribals are commie property'. There would also be the thrill for the commies of finally defeating the nationalists.

Taiwan/ROC actually has the older claim. Like, they literally claim China, Mongolia, Tibet and some parts of India, Pakistan and Russia (and a few patches of Myanmar, Tajikistan and Afghanistan). As the KMT actually did control large swaths of post-Imperial China, one could make the claim that THEIR claim over China is more legit. Although, in this case, might makes right...
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>>2300798
The Ptolemies were of Macedonian descent, if that makes them white
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>>2304566
Protestant Ulster Irish are basically Brit colonists in Ireland. Its almost as bad as saying New Englanders are the same as Native Americans.
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>>2320836
it was only called the hundred years war much later, there were three main phases of fighting over the course of about 100 years. War was very different back then and during each phase of fighting there was the main war between the kings of France and England and many smaller wars between individual nobles.
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Thought that ireland was the way you said island, didnt know it was a country.
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>>2300570
I thought Asians were superior to whites because of martial arts. Also, that my country's "underground resistance" during WW II literally lived in underground tunnels.
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Shit I thought as a kid:
>Berlin was on the border of East and West Germany, and the border split it down the middle
>French had always been surrendermonkeys
>saddam hussein orchestrated 9/11 and that's why America invaded iraq
>Edison and Franklin were buddies
>cortes beat the whole mexica empire with 500 men
>all the concentration camps were in germany
>napoleon was short
>Transylvania was in russia

I'm sure I'll remember more later
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>>2325355
I thought all of these but Transylvania + Napoleon.

Although the eddison/frankling thing shouldn't count because I didn't know who they were (and still don't).
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>I thought great Britain was called like this because of Britanny
>I thought that Switzerland was Sweden and Poland was Russia
>I thought Amsterdam, Cologne (Koln) , Brussels, Aix-La-Chapelle (Aachen) and Barcelona were all in France.
>I thought colonisation was good for colonised countries.
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>>2326399
>>I thought colonisation was good for colonised countries.
But it was???
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>>2304716
>I thought the cold war was calle drive that because Russia is a really cold country
FUCKING THIS!

>>2308440
>Charlemagne created public school
French too I guess?

>>2326417
Look at ex colonies and tell me colonisation we're good for them
>Muh anglosphere
Segregated or genocide the natives.

Even today ex colonies are just slaves to the new colonial powers
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>>2326439
Well, they'd be living in huts and dying at thirty, now, without colonization. They may not be well off, now, but they're better off than they would have been without colonization.
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>>2326399
>I thought great Britain was called like this because of Britanny

Otherway around but not exactly wrong
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>>2326456
>Well, they'd be living in huts and dying at thirty, now, without colonization.
You mean without trade (in the cultural sense).
Trade didn't have to come at the price of domination and slavery. Buy well, human greed, I don't think I would have made differently at the times .
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>thought the world transitioned from black and white to color
>thought that germany was always like nazi germany but nododby did anything because they hadn't attacked anyone until WWII
>thought that racism didn't exist in the 21 century
>i was deadly afraid of visiting Osama bin Laden's wiki page because i thought that the instant you go on it, it alerts the cops and they arrest you for terrorism
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>thought soviet union was just an alternative name for russia because i had a world map from the 80's
>be in 4th grade
>learning about mercantilism and trade and shit like that
>teacher tells us to have a partner read the tag on our shirts to see where they were made
>mine was made in russia
>teacher asks us where they were made
>say soviet union to make it sound cooler
>teacher has the most confused expression ever that a 4th grader knows what the soviet union is post-cold war
>rest of the class has no idea what im talking about
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