Library Update 44

>>2297281
The inspiration and the basis for this historical inquiry are the actual works of Kashmiri Shaivites, the most extensive of which are by Abhinavagupta, who wrote the Tantraloka. He was the one who built up what he called “Anuttara Trika,” and he did that by referring to and integrating many Tantras and other works, drawn from varied Shaiva Tantric traditions. The main manual—you might say the Bible of Anuttara Trika—is the Tantraloka, and secondary to that is the Paratrishikavivarana. The Tantraloka is one of the last great classics in Sanskrit that had not been fully and authoritatively translated into English before now.

To fully understand the importance of the Tantraloka, I need to say more about the history of Shaivism. Basically what happened is that sometime around the sixth century AD, relatively suddenly, a huge number of revealed texts began to come to the earth, as it were. There were two streams of thought. The first is Siddhanta Shaivism, which is now very popular in South India. It centers on the worship of lingas and the form of Shiva called Sada Shiva, which means “always Shiva, always auspicious.” Nowadays this tradition is found in the large Shiva temples of South India.

>>2297294

The logic of calling Anuttara Trika the “highest” is that according to the revelation itself, Trika comes at the end of a series. One is initiated into Trika Shaivism after having taken a series of initiations into what are considered from the Trika perspective to be lower forms of Shaivism—and even below that Vaishnava Tantra, and finally Vedanta. So there is an ascending gradation of initiation, and Trika contains and encompasses all of them as their ultimate teaching. Everything culminates in Anuttara Trika.

Abhinavagupta presents his Tantraloka as an explanation of the teachings of the Malinivijayottara, the Trika Tantra he considers to be the most authoritative. He holds this authority in such reverence that he declares at the beginning of his Tantraloka that there is nothing in it which is not in some form present or suggested in the Malinivijay. Abhinava thus intends his Anuttara Trika to be understood not as something new, but as the final development of the Trika school of Shaivism— which is one of the oldest of the Bhairava current of Shaivite scriptural traditions— and the most explicit and detailed presentation of its essential teachings.

>>2297305
Abhinavagupta (c. 950 – 1016 AD) was a philosopher, mystic and aesthetician from Kashmir. He was also considered an influential musician, poet, dramatist, exegete, theologian, and logician – a polymathic personality who exercised strong influences on Indian culture.

He was born in Kashmir in a family of scholars and mystics and studied all the schools of philosophy and art of his time under the guidance of as many as fifteen (or more) teachers and gurus. In his long life he completed over 35 works, the largest and most famous of which is Tantrāloka, an encyclopaedic treatise on all the philosophical and practical aspects of Trika and Kaula (known today as Kashmir Shaivism). Another one of his very important contributions was in the field of philosophy of aesthetics with his famous Abhinavabhāratī commentary of Nāṭyaśāstra of Bharata Muni.

Abhinavagupta's thought was strongly influenced by Buddhist logic.

>>2297319
To study he took many teachers (as many as 15) both mystical philosophers and scholars. He approached Vaiṣṇavas, Buddhists, Śiddhānta Śaivists and the Trika scholars.

Among the most prominent of his teachers he enumerates four. Vāmanātha who instructed him in dualistic Śaivism and Bhūtirāja in the dualist/nondualist school. Besides being the teacher of the famous Abhinavagupta, Bhūtirāja was also the father of two eminent scholars.

Lakṣmasṇagupta, a direct disciple of Somānanda, in the lineage of Trayambaka, was highly respected by Abhinavagupta and taught him all the schools of monistic thought : Krama, Trika and Pratyabhijña (except Kula).

Śambhunātha taught him the fourth school (Ardha-trayambaka). This school is in fact Kaula, and it was emanated from Trayambaka's daughter.

For Abhinavagupta, Śambhunātha was the most admired guru. Describing the greatness of his master, he compared Śambhunātha with the Sun, in his power to dispel ignorance from the heart, and, in another place, with "the Moon shining over the ocean of Trika knowledge".

Abhinavagupta received Kaula initiation through Śambhunātha's wife (acting as a dūtī or conduit). The energy of this initiation is transmitted and sublimated into the heart and finally into consciousness. Such a method is difficult but very rapid and is reserved for those who shed their mental limitations and are pure.

It was Śambhunātha who requested of him to write Tantrāloka. As guru, he had a profound influence in the structure of Tantrāloka and in the life of its creator, Abhinavagupta.

It is believed that Abhinavagupta had more secondary teachers. Moreover, during his life he had accumulated a large number of texts from which he quoted in his magnum opus, in his desire to create a synthetic, all inclusive system, where the contrasts of different scriptures could be resolved by integration into a superior perspective.

Bump for preservation of Tantra.

>tfw I like Indian history and religious stories but think all this spiritual shit is bollocks

>>2297281
>books

Shit nigga ain't no-one got time for that, you feel me? Hit me up wit' some recommendations for edutaining videos so I can harmonize my chakras n'shit with my eyes closed, you dig?

>>2297413
K.

>>2297413
That's a pretty common opinion desu senpai

this is definitely the wrong board for this. try x

>>2297463
Why, exactly, is presenting an important historical text for the first time in English wrong for this board?

>>2297463
>This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

This thread covers:
>philosophy
>religion
>Middle-Late classical Sanskrit
>Kashmiri anthropology

Sorry if you don't personally like the materials presented, but just because you can't participate doesn't mean others should be barred from participation.

>>2297533
Also, the thread itself is historical:
>>2297281
>This is the first time, ever, that a complete English edition is appearing online.
/his/ was literally the first place I went after scanning.

>>2297281
Tantra yoga eh?
Are you aware of the mantra of Om hreem shreem chamundaya namaha?

>>2297712
>Om hreem shreem chamundaya namaha
>chamundaya
>chamunda
>candali
>chinnamasta
>sachchi mata
>chamundeshwari
>candika
>kubjika

Yeah, I'm aware.

You know this?

महाविनोदार्पितमातृचक्र-
वीरेन्द्रकासृग्रसपानसक्ताम् |
रक्तीकृतां च प्रलयात्यये तां
नमामि विश्वाकृतिरक्तकालीम् ||

न चैषा चक्षुषा ग्राह्या न च सर्वेन्द्रियस्थिता |
निर्गुणा निरहङ्कारा रञ्जयेद्विश्वमण्डलम् |
सा कला तु यदुत्पन्ना सा ज्ञेया रक्तकलिका ||

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>>2297726
Wow, is that samvartamandala?
I am a shaivite Kshatriya, so my knowledge on esoteric is limited to Shivadhanurveda, Kalari and martial traditions.

>>2297804
It's the 14 Kalis, yes, but it's not exclusive to the Samvartamandala. Also incorporated into the Tritrisulbijmandala.

Raktakali is the self initiation deity of the Uttara Kaula Trika.

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>>2297864
Have you performed any yajna? Also how much stock do you put in Carvaka and Mimamsa as the materialist thought has influenced some of what Abhinavagupta penned to justify the Kaulamarga, because the attitude is the key in determining when something forbidden in the root scriptures is performed, almost similar to the whole materialist ideals represented.

Ape are you a wizard? You seem to know a lot about the occult and religious practices everywhere.

>>2297886
>yajna
Yes, in Hindi and Buddhist modes.

>Carvaka and Mimamsa as the materialist thought has influenced some of what Abhinavagupta penned to justify the Kaulamarga
I like Carvaka.

It's also pretty clear that Abhinava's transgressive philosophy has a lot to do with climbing around in the five pure-impure tattvas, to understand the subtle throbbing of their interplay and immanent reality.

>>2297888
>888
Sure, why not.

>>2297914
>five pure-impure tattvas
which ones specifically? There are a lot of tattvas.

>>2298125
T-the five (my bad *six*) pure-impure tattvas:
>Maya
>Kala
>Kala
>Vidya
>Raga
>Nyati

My understanding of the system is:
So, you've got Maya as a glue, the very fabric that Shiva weaves the universe out of. If everything below it is subject to it, and the supernal reality above it is exempt....what's the point in the renunciation of the "impure" or even "socially permissible"? There are moral and ethical factors at play, but you're working to weaken the chains that keep you in bondage, personally. Many of those chains are cultural. To conquer them below the six is required to move beyond them. Beyond them they are irrelevant.

Hence the 5 Ms. You're working on dissolving undue restriction.

I hope I'm not getting too personal here, but what do you do for a living Ape?

>>2298759
Museum admin.

Haven't used this yet, is there a Roman section?

>>2300074
No but I've got some substantial amounts of Greek paganism over in the Euro and Neoplatonic folders.

>>2301468
^
Srs, first time presentation of Tantraloka online in English.

I don't expect excitement, or anything, but it'd be nice if interested parties could forward the text(s) to folks with a genuine interest in Tantra.

> twilight language

This is a question about pretty much every esoteric "tradition" that does this:

Why should anyone go along with that? What makes "gurus" convinced that they're so special they have "secrets," and if they're so enlightened why can't they figure out that it makes them look like frauds vetting their marks for gullibility?

--

I would strongly encourage anyone reading this to just foster mindfulness and introspection. I can tell you from experience that if you really dedicate yourself to that process, you will easily leapfrog 90% of the fags around here posting about shit like this, in terms of spiritual development.

>>2302894
Thx guru

>>2302894
Huh, I never realized that using euphemistic wordplay by a poet and aesthetician was a mark of charlatanry in a system where the guru pays any travel expense if one is needed for initiation.

I'll ask this here. Is there somwhere I can get the Osprey books? I can only find some here and there in.pdf format.

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"The unquestioned authority of the Vedas;
tthe belief in a world-creator;
tthe quest for purification through ritual bathing;
tthe arrogant division into castes;
the practice of mortification to atone for sin—
these five are the marks of the crass stupidity of witless men." - Dharmakirti

With love and respect from a foolish yogin. Happy new year Pandita.

>>2303990
Oh I thought this was for books in general. Well if anyone can answer thanks a bunch.

>>2303990
Osprey's adventure supplements are fun.
I got no idea where their military/history texts are cached tho.

>>2303994
Thanks mate.

>>2301468
>Bump
^^^

>>2304293
>93
Back up top.

Long ass day at work.
I'll be around for questions/commentary.

Huh, I'd have thought there'd be a touch more interest in a religious text appearing online in English with broad access for the first time.

>>2306271
You should have made a thread about
>Hitler/WWII
>Eternal Anglo
>Catholicism vs Protestantism

This board is /pol/-lite trash.

>>2306271

I appreciate it

Keep fighting the good fight sir

>>2306271
Wish I knew enough to ask intelligent questions

>>2306384
>Catholicism vs Protestantism
It's the same autismo spamming /his/ with anti-catholic threads and post.

i have no idea where to begin

what exactly is this text? i've picked up on the spirituality/occult/..tradition?religion?

sorry to appear incompetent but i have no clue what even to google much less research

>>2306271
it is.
thanks you big monkey <3

>>2307499
>what exactly is this text? i've picked up on the spirituality/occult/..tradition?religion?
>>2297294
>>2297305
>>2297319
>>2297359
>The logic of calling Anuttara Trika the “highest” is that according to the revelation itself, Trika comes at the end of a series. One is initiated into Trika Shaivism after having taken a series of initiations into what are considered from the Trika perspective to be lower forms of Shaivism—and even below that Vaishnava Tantra, and finally Vedanta. So there is an ascending gradation of initiation, and Trika contains and encompasses all of them as their ultimate teaching. Everything culminates in Anuttara Trika.

Once again, great job Ape. Going to work through this asap.

>>2306271
Nobody cares about ancient poo nigger magic.

>>2308346
Tell that to.....
>>2308229
>>2307803
>>2306397
>>2306492
>>2297712

>bump

>>2297319
>Abhinavagupta (c. 950 – 1016 AD) was a philosopher
I lost you right there. A man who only lives 66 years has no spiritual authority.

>>2309488
Why, exactly?

>>2309549
>>2309488
Some sources put his death at 1025, making him 75, if that helps your seemingly arbitrary age limits.

>>2309557
That does make a difference actually.

All those weird ass Hatha Yoga texts state that you can escape death and have perfect health with different practices. So, if a guys lives a short life, I have to assume he's a shit-tier yogi.

>>2309609
There's only one Hatha Yoga.

Tale, often disputed but passed around nonetheless, is that he fucked off to a cave with 1200 disciples and just vanished.

Moreover, it's really hard to associate Mukti in the Hatha context with immortality. Here, I'll demonstrate.

http://sacred-texts.com/hin/hyp/index.htm
^Find me all instances of "immortality" v. "mukti".

The closest rendering we have is "chāmṝtāya", which...seems insufficient. It refers two the unified nectar of the two channels, rather than endless life.

Moreover, HYP speaks only of becoming young vigor, not of eternal youth.

Abhinava writes on Mukti...it has nothing to do with endless life.

Finally, I'm not sure why we're even comparing the two systems. Uttara Kaula Trika is an inherently death-friendly system. If you'd read through the one of the initiations is a ritual killing of terminally ill aspirants.

Any rec's for something like the rig veda?
Also any good books on the connection between hinduism and music?

This is all literal gibberish to me, but interesting gibberish.
Where do I begin?

>>2309908
>hinduism and music
I've got some stuff from Abhinava on aesthetics.

>rig veda
You'll need to buy it, last I looked (couple years back) it wasn't scanned fully.

>>2309912
Hard to say?
Maybe Kaulajnananirnaya?

>>2297281
>tfw you will never get your soul sucked out through your dick by a tantric succubus riding a lovecraftian demon-chimera

>>2303994
The more I read about "hinduism" vs tantra the more it sounds "christianity vs natives".

There is an article (will look it to post here later) that compares the prudish, rigid religiousness of the aryans vs the more natural, metaphysic one of the natives of Harappa (the author implies that tantra is the native religion/culture of India with yoga being tantric and goes full Gimbutas in a matriarchy vs patriarchy thing though).

It really blows me the similarities between tantra and other "native" practices like shamanism or vodoo and the ones between brahmins hinduism and european christianity. Of course european christianity is heavily influenced by IE religion (no matter how much bible thumpers deny it and accuse only catholicism on it, protestantism as well has "germanic" religiousness in it).

>>2310053
We don't actually functionally know which bits of the post-"""Aryan""" cultural synthesis came from the native Indics.

Jan Fries makes the argument that yoga is a Harappan development in his book Kali Kaula. This may or may not be the case.

All we know for certain is that Kali was most revered as an interior goddess in the mountainous/deserty regions of the subcontinent.

Rudra/Shiva is even more ambiguous. By the time Mahabharata was authored there was already a coherent Shiva worship, as evidenced in the late Vedic materials. Shakti gets some references but much of her materials don't get put down for some centures later than the Saivist stuff.

>>2297281
What are the best sigil instructions I can find in the internet, Thoth?

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>>2310275
Agrippa and Austin Osman Spare.

>>2310269
>interior goddess
Interior as in spirituality or interior as in the interior regions of India?

>>2310280
thanks senpai

>>2310304
>interior regions of India
^

(bump)

>>2306271
10/10

>>2312430
Thanks mate.

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Seriously, what's the real meaning of the High Priestess in Tarot? What I have understood is that it's Pakriti, the infinite source of matter, pure as all things are pure to it. However, I can't grasp how to penetrate in the inner garden that lies beyond the High Priestess's throne, in which we can see an illusory veil.

>>2306271
Lots of people just like to shitpost, don't worry about it too much.

Not a lot of people are qualified to post about this in the first place though.

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>>2314320
>what's the real meaning of the High Priestess in Tarot

This shouldn't be rocket science. Pic related.

>>2314510
My threads are always slow and special interest. I was more just making an excuse to post a bump than actually wondering why first year humanities undergraduate board on a Kyrgyzstani goat milking BBS weren't replying fast enough.

>>2314320
>However, I can't grasp how to penetrate in the inner garden that lies beyond the High Priestess's throne, in which we can see an illusory veil.
Pray a rosary.

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>>2314535
Yeah, that's part one.

How many years have you dedicated to the occult, The Ape of?
It's obvious that you have been in this for many years.

>>2314607
Fifteen plus years.

>>2314612
Amazing. What piece of advice would you give to the neophytes, like me?

>>2314622
Do the Work.
No Guru will do it for you, unless it's to shame you into doing the Work, like you promised.
So do the Work.

"MOME RATHS

The early bird catches the worm and the twelve-year-old prostitute attracts the ambassador.
Neglect not the dawn-meditation!
The first plovers’ eggs fetch the highest prices; the flower of virginity is esteemed by the pandar.
Neglect not the dawn-meditation!

Early to bed and early to rise
Makes a man healthy and wealthy and wise:
But late to watch and early to pray
Brings him across The Abyss, they say.
Neglect not the dawn-meditation!"
~Liber 333, Ch 22.

>>2314634
>>2314622
Or, more traditionally:

>Prayer is better than sleep.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/4/4f/Adhan_in_Shalqar_mosque.webm/Adhan_in_Shalqar_mosque.webm.480p.webm

>>2314634
Is Crowley trustworthy? I don't know where to begin with him

>>2314643
>Is Crowley trustworthy
If you can show me better initiations into the Western tradition than Crowley's, I'd love to see them.

>>2314647
I know nothing that's why I ask.

Where do I begin?

>>2314691
Magick in Theory and Practice.

>>2314714
Thank you

>>2297463
>hello I am retarded
>>2297539
Thanks, Ape. You're a cool guy for doing this. Everyone who earnestly spreads knowledge is welcome here.

What are some horrifying religious texts heavy in imagery and storytelling rather than instruction? Not including the new testament of course.

>>2306271
It's honestly a little above my level, I'm afraid.

>>2310002
>tfw you will never get your soul sucked out through your dick by a tantric succubus riding a lovecraftian demon-chimera

kek

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>>2297281
Just picked this up and some of the Nag' texts.

What has your experiance with Gnosticism been?

What in your view are the best criticisms of it?

>>2316427
Pretty wide.
The only book on Gnosticism that's not a core text is Kurt Rudolph's "Gnosis: The Nature and History of Gnosticism"

>best criticisms
I rarely if ever hear good criticisms of it. Doesn't mean they can't be made, but I usually see detractors using latest possible theoretical dates rather than median or early. Most lump all "Gnostic" sects together even though they all had wildly diverging theology. Reliance of second-hand accounts that may or may not be accurate, etc.

>>2316549
>I rarely if ever hear good criticisms of it.
From what little I know of Gnosticism, the idea that the demiruge is an evil being as opposed to the craftsman envisioned by platonics doesn't seem right. As for being soul parts of Sophia, it's an interesting take on uniting with the Holy Bride.

>>2316549
>Most lump all "Gnostic" sects together even though they all had wildly diverging theology
This

Valentinianism at least seems to have been rooted in no small part in an ugly anti-semitism and elitism

>>2316666
>Valentinianism at least seems to have been rooted in no small part in an ugly anti-semitism and elitism
of course that's not a criticism if you're an elitist anti-semite

>>2316666
>anti-semitism
>legimate cause to complain unless your a Semite or a cuck
Wew

>>2316624
>the idea that the demiruge is an evil being as opposed to the craftsman envisioned by platonics doesn't seem right
Valentine posited that Demiurge was simply mistaken/incompetent, and is intensely sorrowful for fucking things up.

Narcissist? Yes. Evil, not quite.

>>2316666
You mean like the Paluine epistles?

>>2316666
>>2316987
>Jews criticizing pharisaism is anti-Semitic

>>2316987
>like the Paluine epistles?

I don't think the authentic Pauline epistles were elitist. they attack the neliefs of Jews but as far as I'm concerned that's fair game.

I regret calling valentinianism anti-Semitic, there are reasonable grounds for distancing the father from the God of the Old Testament, but I do believe that much of its appeal to the respectable lay in its distancing itself from Judaism.

>>2317054
Basically Paul attacks doctrines and self-righteousness, this is not equivalent in my mind to repulsion at being associated with a denigrated subpopulation.

>>2297413
What do you mean? You think that the book itself is innacurrate? As if it was an invention of the author

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4HXYHyEyMs

>>2306271
Hey, I'm for this.

I'm just not educated enough in the area to make worthwhile comments yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS73P3hZvPA

I dont use Mega, is it possible to add stuff in or do I have to contact OP and have him add them?
Id like to get a Roman section going.

>>2318865
You gotta hit me up. I'm very likely to upload things that are passed on to me if they're not abject garbage.

>>2318883
Great. I have access to university databases too, so I might throw you some stuff later.

>>2318910
I do as well but haven't done a "give me article names to search" thread in a while.

Highest praise unto THAT which surpasses all praising.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ_m7tgPcf4

>>2319482
How can god even compete?

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>>2319507
I really don't even know.
That's how the ball rolls, I guess.

>>2319524
Is that a stack of bills in the left hand?

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>>2319551
It's a book.

She's Para, the goddess of the Highest Will, in the form of Paravac, the Highest Logos (Word).

>>2319564
Thanks, what words are you translating as will and logos?

OP is going to look really stupid on the Day of Judgement.

>>2319615
Vac: वाच्

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>>2319615
>>2319622
Actually, Para as Will/Highest (synonymous in this context) with Vac as 'Word.

Parapara is Knowledge.
Apara is Action.

Parā (the middle prong of the trishula) is depicted in a benevolent form, while Parāpara (the left prong) and Aparā (the right prong) are shown as wild and terrifying, wearing a garland of skulls, and brandishing the khatvanga, the skull-topped staff. The Three Goddesses are white, red and yellow-black. And we see Sadashiva at the base of the prongs of the trishula.

>>2319482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvUF4LkmwKo

>>2319629
That's a really good rendition.

Shri Hairakhandi, Hairakhandi, Hairakhandi bol !
Ishvara sata chita ananda bol !
Shri Samba SadaShiva, Samba SadaShiva, Samba Sada
Shiva bol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM95HQ2rpV0

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>>2310534
>>2310304
>>2310269
Yoga may actually date back to Harrapan IVC due to the seal with Pashupati found in the ruins that matches the concept of early Vedic diety called Rudra as explained in Yajurveda in Shri Rudram mantra, which is synonymous with Lord Shiva was he was also called Rudra as with the beads in the rosariesused from a berry from a tree is called rudrakshi, or the eyes of Rudra, who is infact shiva.

Now Shiva is considered to be the first Yogi, and his tradition is said to date back long before most traditions, he is one of the first and prime gods in latter hinduism, but still there is a representation in IVC, which may indicate some form of physical exercise regiment created to keep peoples transferring from active lifestyles of hunter gatherers, herders to more sedentary and urban lifestyles and to instill in them calm and disabuse notions and need to be restless.

Hinduism is an amalgmation of Incoming Iranic Nomads meeting urbanised and cultured peoples of the IVC and then settling in waves into the IVC who by the time of the Aryan intrusions may have been diminishing in numbers due to the various century long setbacks and droughts.

I guess the IVC joined with the Aryans adopted their language and improved on it and created Sanskrit, propagated their ancient tales through Vedas and then became what they are today.

But there are certain parts of the vedas that throw light on peaceful integration, like the deeds of Indra and his destruction of a Brahmin Vrtra who existed prior to the Aryans under Indra arriving in the Brahmins land lands.

>>2319640
Is that the Gayathri mantra in the beggining? Its very intriguing.

Also Sarswati sloka you can chant in the morning before any form of study or acquisition of knowledge.
Sarswathi namasthubyum varadhay Kama rupini
Vidhyarambam karishyami sidhir bhavatume sadah

>>2319668
It's a really good connection, but it's tenuous. I don't wanna jump up and scream "Pashupati yoga" when it COULD just be seating.

The seal may not actually be Pashupatinath either.

>There's a good chance it is tho

>>2319668
>But there are certain parts of the vedas that throw light on peaceful integration, like the deeds of Indra and his destruction of a Brahmin Vrtra who existed prior to the Aryans under Indra arriving in the Brahmins land lands.
I was just attempting to reference this in another thread on /x/.

>>2319683
>Gayathri mantra in the beggining
Yes.

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>>2319699
>I was just attempting to reference this in another thread on /x/.
What thread was that?

>>2319714
>>>/x/18597474
>No. There's zero archaeological evidence for large scale conquering battles. This was a relatively peaceful and synchretic contact.

>>2314634
I love this.

>>2297281
Bump to OP. Very much enjoying this thread. Thank you.

I'm glad we're still classy enough to enjoy The Ape.

Stay classy /his. Thanks Ape.