Why has Europe not produced one single great spiritual leader?

More like religion in the European world was far too laid back and cross-cultural to have some grand reform. Then Christianity happened. All of Europe's great religious minds were Christian. St Augustine is the closest thing.

Mohammed was a red headed Irish man

>who is varg vikernes
poor bait OP

>>2294919

The Druids presumably had such a figure, since they were an extremely powerful and organised religion by the time of Caesar, but ofc they left no records. Had he lived, Julian the Apostate would have been Europe's Laozi.

Europeans have no soul

Plato > everyone you cited.

Also forgetting Zalmoxis, Pythagoras, Orpheus, the choir of church Mystics, saints and ascetics, (many of whom are North African and middle eastern, to give each one their due).

Shall we go to the more alternative side? All medieval alchemists, the Rosicrucian movement, Jacob Boehme, Madame Blavatsky, Rudolf Steiner, Carl Jung... Yawn. Poor bait OP.

>>2295115

Also Empedocles and Apollonius of Tyana, both extremely influential cult figures before Christ.

>>2294919
Religion is retarded. Europe has instead produced great minds such as Plato, Aristotle, Hume, Kant and so on.

>>2295103
Nope, but I guess technically Pythagoras is European, he's the only one I'd put on par with the rest.

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>being this much of a plebian

>>2294919
Julius Evola

Europoors are dum

>>2295134
Except what you call Christian theology, Islamic mysticism and Jewish Kabbalah are so many forms of rehashed Platonism.

what about... all the popes and bishops for ~2000 years?

>>2294919

Feel like this Thread is just some /pol/ troll trying to bait people.

But I'll take a whack.

Though Christianity is not "European based." Many of its doctrines are European. >>2294966
States Augustine, some may say he wasn't European because he was born in Africa, but lets get this straight right now so no one argues anymore on this thread and we can just kill this post before anyone else gets baited it.

Augustine was Algerian but his teachings are considered western philosophy across the board. Not to mention when we was born Algeria was more Roman than it had ever been. He wasn't born European but he died European, that's for sure.

Also more to look at about Christianity, Islam, ans all the others. People adapt the religion into their own culture. This is why we have indian buddah and chinese looking buddah. Same with white jesus and black jesus.

To say Any religions or spiritual leader/prophet is not created in what ever area that it is practiced is not relevant since
One.
>religion is adaptive

Two.
>religion is fantasy anyways

>>2295149
the saints too

Catholicism and orthodoxy have very little to do with Jesus and a lot to do with Plato and Aristotle. Christianity is the largest religion in the world, and Catholicism are the first and second largest denominations. I rest my case.

>>2295025
That's also my head cannon.

>>2294919
Europeans are just not spiritual people. Just look at the world now, most atheists/agnostics/irreligious are europeans,

>>2295215
>One century is representative of an entire continent with multiple nations and all of their history.
This is only true today. Europe has had other phases of religious skepticism and blasé nihilism, as well as religious fanaticism.

>>2295215
Most atheist/irreligious are Asian actually.

About 11% of world population identifies as atheist. Roughly 770 million. Roughly 50% of Chinese identify themselves as convinced atheists. That's about 650 million. Officially, roughly 90% of them are irreligious, I'm making a distinction between atheism and irreligiousness in China due to official reasons.

650/770 = 84% of world Atheists are Chinese.

Most great philosophers are European though. Our spiritual thought comes mostly through them.

Because in in Europe the Logos defeated the Mythos.

>>2295283
Those statistics are wildly inaccurate because oriental religiosity is so dissimilar from occidental religiosity and we use metrics for the latter on the former.

>>2294919
All the ones you listed are white except for the last guy. It seems white people are more capable of inventing shit regardless of what continent they are born in.

Plato.

>>2295820
What have you personally invented?

>>2295804
If you don't trust official statistics, then what grounds does your bullshit statement stand on? Faith?

Yeah, fuck off

>>2295835
Your buttpain by the looks of it.

>>2295844
So nothing.

>middle easterners and asians are white
kek

>>2295804
Elaborate on this.

>>2295820
WE WUZ PROPHETS N SHIET

>>2295828
He wasn't a spiritual guy, just a shit talker who got BTFO out by cynical dude living in a barrel.

>europeans believe(d) in thinking for themselves

Would you look at that.

>>2295867
Actually he was a philosopher and metaphysicist. Platonism and neoplationism can probably be considered a religion the same why Buddhism is. This being said, Platonism exist more as a metaphysical and philosophical framework other religions use than a religion in itself.

>>2295850
You're an American, I can feel it. I had this weird experience with Americans who are unable to comprehend that cultures, races, or basically anything don't have to fit official designations.

For example, I argued with one American who told me Pittsburgh is a part of the northeast just because it's in the state of Pennsylvania, which is primarily northeastern. My argument that the western PA / Pittsburgh area is basically the same thing culturally and demographically as eastern Ohio and West Virginia fell on deaf ears, he just sees a a fucking line on the map that divides PENNSYLVANIA and OHIO so in his mind they can't possibly be the same, and Pittsburgh has to be the same thing as Philadelphia.

Similarly, some Americans are completely unable to comprehend that you can be from Africa and not be black. In their mind, if you're a born on a continent primarily associated with niggers, then you're a nigger yourself. Their minds are wired to think that way for some absurd reason.

Buddha was described as a blue eyed man in Lakkhaṇa Sutta, and Mohammed had red hair. Whites are not uncommon in the Asian continent but you're just unable to comprehend that.

>>2295850
He doesn't comprehend the power of WE WUZ

>>2295903
t. Richard Spencer

>>2295903
The problem is you have Nordcucks who think they're the only Whites, and those who take a more holistic approach to Whiteness but still boil down to European Ethnicities. I agree that among the Caucasoid race, you have White Semites (Assad and syriagirl are good examples of this) and White Hamites, even if they're the minority of their population group.

>>2295914
>>2295914
>>2295903

This is why you won't find scientists talking about race, no-one can agree where one race begins and another ends. To one man, any Caucasoid is a white man, to another, the wogs begin at Calais!

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>>2295928
>no-one can agree where one race begins and another ends
Yeah it's not like we have genetic science or anything that shows us white people clustering together, we only have 19th century cultural memes.

>>2295953
Is it one of those clusters that put Sardinians way apart from other Europeans despite looking exactly like other Southern Europeans?

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>>2295953
Yes, genetic populations cluster next to one another. It still doesn't give "White" meaning beyond a social concepts. Granted, there is nothing wrong this. Europeans share historical, geographic, racial, cultural, linguistic and religious ties and it should be acknowledged and supported.

Europeans have largely been rooted in the tradition of materialism, logic, and more earthly endeavors all together. This was true until Christianity happened.

>>2296007
>materialism
No. Some Greek philosophers =/= All Europeans.

>>2296007
Was that before or after slaughtering for Valhalla?

>>2294966
Augustine was a north afrcan, though.
Maybe Aquinas, or one of the greek fathers

>>2296007
>largely
No. Its been minor.

>>2296016
I personally believe most ancient Europeans were secretly agnostic and spirituality in any real sense was not a distinctive characteristics of European people. Now the Indo-Aryan cousins of Europeans obviously did have quite the spiritual streak in them.

>>2296025
Ancient Europeans were superstitious and spiritual as fuck, supernatural things were as real to them as material ones. This began to disappear only in the late Roman empire worship started to become just symbolic, which is why they were so eager to adopt Christianity.

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I believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now?

>>2296025
>I personally believe most ancient Europeans were secretly agnostic and spirituality in any real sense was not a distinctive characteristics of European people.
My sides.
Let me guess, you also belived asian faiths are actually just secular philosophies, right?

It's too cold. The desert makes you hallucinate. All good religious nutters came from sand

>>2296042
>implying all deserts are hot
>implying deserts can only be made of sand

>>2296042
"When an evil spirit leaves a person, it goes into the desert, searching for rest. But when it finds none, it says, 'I will return to the person I came from.'

>>2296041
no.

>>2296042
>Buddha and Laozi
>From the sand

Plato. He was influential to the religion he directly started, the religion his successor started, several Greek and Roman mystery cults, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and I think Manicheism. Am I missing any others?

>>2297006
Laozi wasn't a religious leader in the usual sense though. He was just a highly successful philosopher, and not even the biggest influence on Taoism (or even a Taoist himself).