Will people 200 years from now, when they look back at history,

>>2292170
>Stalin
Probably. He's pretty much reached that point for everyone except the American right.

>Hitler
(((They))) aren't going to allow that.

>>2292175

/thread

>>2292175
>unironically uses le parenthesis meme
>>>/pol/

Maybe not 200 years, unless our future selves manage to completely out-do us in genocidal ideologies. 500 probably.

Hopefully not. Hitler is a symptom of a social process, and we should learn to identify it in order to prevent future mistakes. He has to be remembered as an incarnation of evil because that's the only way to defeat fascist ideology. Fascism cannot be overcomed by debate, but rather shame and physical/moral violence.

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>>2292179
(You)

>>2292170
Depends on what ethnicity will be the most powerful, if it will be Russians then Stalin would be remembered as Great, if it will be Germans Hitler will be rehabilitated.

>>2292170
Best if the dead-thing is forgotten, but as long as there are bad rulers, jews and a germany there will always be a comparison to hitler the vile.

>>2292187
Who says fascism will be relevant in 200 years?

>>2292175
Haha this is a really creative and funny comment congratulations on your originality and political awareness :D

>>2292187
>Fascism cannot be overcomed by debate, but rather shame and physical/moral violence.
There are two kinds of fascists: fascists and anti-fascists.

>>2292187
>we should learn from our past mistakes and make sure to identify harmful social processes
>we should oppress and perpetuate violence against those we think have harmful beliefs

Truly a utopia like none seen before will soon be realised if only more people thought like you

>>2292219
>if we let fascists organize and take power we win :^)

>>2292263
We should just lock up fascists and communists and basically everyone who proposes an anti-classical liberal ideology.

All with due process, of course.

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Chinggis Khaan didn't do anything wrong though. He united the tribes of the steppe and secured his borders, along with building a united Mongolian identity and functioning imperial government.

No purges, no colonial wars, no genocides. He probably "raped" some sexy Mongol ladies, but can you blame him?

>>2292179

>parenthesis meme

(((Parenthesis)))

>>2292263
>fascism taking power
>bad
This is what a brainwashed sheep looks like. I pity you.

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>>2292219
Wrong. Actually there are fascists and fascist enablers.

>>2292273
>THEYRE EVIL MONSTAHS GOYIM KILL EM!!!!

>>2292263
Or, you know, debate them using words rather than validating their ideology

Fascism is on the rise.
There's no stopping it, only steering it.

>>2292273
>she punches the Nazi slug
>she goes to jail for assault
>Nazi slug is now free to keep preaching his ideology, gets to power and makes a dice bag out of her kid's scrotum

>>2292287

You can't "win with words" because they don't care about being right, they care about the ideology.

>>2292295
>these people are just fucking ideologues, they're so evil and wrong that it's okay to kill them because they're wrong and I'm right

>>2292287
How does one argue against "might makes right"?

>>2292287
You know fascism is openly irrationalist, right? You literally can't persuade them because they don't think in ways that allow persuasion. The fascist mindset is so that if you put enough will into something it is bound to become true.

>>2292304
That's true of every ideology. Yes, including leftism.

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>>2292300
Yes, there are people who hold opinions that should be a death sentence.

Does it trigger you?

>>2292300

Well yeah. No-one has a problem with killing extremest muslims and Britain imprisons both extremests Muslims and Fascists because we don't have the free speech nmeme. You're allowed to say what you want until you start threatening people.

>>2292313
I hate leftists too. Communists, anarchists, antifa and general scum should also be locked up alongside fascists, preferably in the same cell.

>>2292318
t. fascist
>>2292321
Threats != ideology

>>2292324
t. moderate liberal who still believes in the "progress" meme

>>2292295
>>2292302
>>2292304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27RXiA0qkrM

Like what this guy did. Yes, out of the 350 000 people who watched that video there'll probably be 1-10% who'll agree with Spencer no matter what. But for the 90-99% they'll see that when he's engaged in reasonable debate his views can be challenged pretty easily.

If Roland Martin got pissed off and just tried to punch Spencer, that 90-99% would have instead thought "fuck, maybe this Spencer fellow has a point."

Different ideologies thrive in different narratives. The Marxist frames his argument through one of class struggle, because Marxist arguments make more sense in that worldview. The free-market Capitalist instead will frame his argument through one of wealth creation and private sector ingenuity, because capitalism makes more sense in that worldview.

You know what the worldview in which Fascism makes sense is? One of violence.

>>2292326

Considering the ideology IS a fucking threat, yes it is. Its the same as radical Islam or totalitarianism. Notice that Communism, although bat shit insane, doesn't inherantly include nativism or militaristic expansion.

>>2292340
The difference is that IS TERRORISTS are the threat, people who are violent. Arresting people for holding a view is totalitarianism.

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>>2292295
It's not about convincing them you mong, it's about convincing the middle man.
You will NEVER win a debate AGAINST a fanatic. No matter how many times you shut down their arguments they will always keep believing what they believe.
What you can do is win a debate WITH a fanatic. The fanatic will go away believing he won or that he's still right, but the middle man will side with you because they are not tainted with fanaticism.

Humanity trends towards the center, the extremists and outgroups will always be a minority of the population. The die hard Nazis were always less than 1% of the German population, but what they convinced was the average German to go along with them.
You don't beat them by changing their opinion, you beat them by swaying the opinion of the centrists. This is how it goes for anything. If you appeal to minority groups and only minority groups you LOSE. You must appeal to the majority. That is how Trump won the US election, he got Middle America on his side.

Trump was never going to get the blacks to vote for him, never going to get the SJWs to vote for him, he never had a chance in hell to get the Mexican vote.
What he did have a chance to do and what he did was appeal to Middle America. The Rust Belt. The Blue Collar workers, and he won because of it. He appealed to the moderate left and the moderate right while Hillary went all on the die hard believers who were going to vote for her no matter what she did short of sacrificing a live baby on television.

Hitler didn't win his elections because he appealed to the people who were already fascists, he achieved power because he promised the average German a job and food and a house for his family.

>>2292329
Conservative here. Liberals are scum that are too tolerant towards your kind.

>>2292351
Keep sucking private sector dicks, kid

>>2292340
>Notice that Communism, although bat shit insane, doesn't inherantly include nativism or militaristic expansion.

It does, however, include totalitarian control of society by a party-state and disastrous economic policies which will leave the population without basic supplies at best and kill millions by famine at worst.

>>2292350
>Humanity trends towards the center, the extremists and outgroups will always be a minority of the population.
This is blatantly wrong.

>>2292356
Keep socializing your ass, kid.

>>2292346
Are non-violent fascist being arrested?

>>2292369
No, but the guy I responded to (>>2292318) clearly advocates for that

>supporting the killing of everyone who doesn't agree with you
>at the end of the say you can still call yourself a moderate
The first rule of politics is that nobody is a moderate.

>LET'S USE VIOLENCE AGAINST FASCISTS, THAT WILL SHUT THEM DOWN
>mfw Weimar had plenty of street clashes between Nazis and communists and that didn't stop the Nazis from taking over power.

Listen, shitheads, there are two reasons you shouldn't start street clashes with fascists.

One, because fascists are probably BETTER than you at street fights. They are better trained and stronger than you and they will probably pummel your liberal ass into oblivion if things get to that level, and they probably have less qualms about doing it than you do. Richard Spencer only got punched because he was distracted talking to some reporter.

Two, and the more important one, as Weimar demonstrated, violence by itself DOESN'T STOP FASCISTS. Violence, however, introduces a great deal of unstability into the political enviroment and it is precisely in this atmosphere of unstability that fascists thrive.

The only thing that will stop these parties from taking over is only a political solution that involves BANNING THEM. Germany did pretty well in this regard.

>>2292361
No, it isn't. There will always be a center. The center changes exactly what it is, but humanity is slow to change. The largest single group of a population will always hold the "moderate" belief even if they lean to one side or the other of the debate.

The center today might have been the extreme of yesteryear, but that doesn't make it any less the "moderate" idea in the here and now. Normalization makes the old extreme the new average, and humans always tend towards the average in everything.

>>2292373
So if I think IS are good guys, terrorist attacks are justified and ran around with a "If you insult Allah I will behead you", I am OK as long as I don't actually do anything?

>>2292395
Terrorist attacks aren't justified but we can't arrest you for thinking the IS are good guys.

>>2292273
the narrative from which the nazi slug obtained his ideas is one that actually exists, and responding to him rather then the narrative reinforces the narrative.

the correct response is to use cultural relativism, realize that different environments produce different ideologies, and work to make sure his environment doesn't produce said ideology while simultaneously making sure his environment is prosperous and isn't under anyone's thumb, as has been done in the past in relation to other impoverished societies.

we should either unify (work to crush segregation and cultural differences) or divide (take away their external control and give them internal control, and vice versa); subjugation should not be an option.

>>2292395
absolutely; you learned that from some cultural environment which is the real threat, not you. you might need to be paid more attention by security forces, but actual action? fuck no.

this is the unified stance of basically everyone except nazis, but for some reason people fail to make the leap to also applying it to nazis. we really just need to stop using words like "evil" when applied to people; it's always a bad thing when someone is harmed and always a good thing if they're helped, even if they themselves haven't been morally pretty and/or they hold ideas the implications of which aren't morally pretty.

>>2292438
Nazis are evil, Islamists are evil, communists are evil. Nobody should be allowed to express a single word in support of these ideas.

>>2292187
Idiot.

>>2292449
>evil
I want this meme to end

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>>2292449
But what happens if someday the average belief is that democracy is evil, or capitalism is evil, or welfare is evil, or Buddhism is evil?
You may scoff at that idea, but those Islamists you think should be illegal think everything you hold near and dear is evil.
If you ban ideas and ideology you set forth a prescient that any idea and ideology can be illegal so long as most people agree it's bad.

Germany is a perfect example of this. Hitler didn't rise to power on a platform of industrial genocide, he got there on what was at the time quite moderate and standard platform. Jobs for Germans, German land for German people. 12 years later 40 million people were dead.

Banning ideas is evil if you ask me. You laugh now, say humanity is peaceful and loving and kind, we'll never go back to fascism in the Western world.
Yeah well back in 1918 everyone thought war was over for good. Something so terrible could never be repeated, the people would never again put people in power that would lead to such massive loss of life right?

If we ban what you don't like today there's nothing but a thin line stopping others from banning what you like tomorrow and what I like the day after that. You cannot police the human mind, you cannot be on the right side of history.
There is only one side of history and it is lined with graves on both sides. The graves of the killers and the graves of those they killed.

>>2292449
moral universalism/globalism is a meme and is the exact same meme that nazis and islamists embraced

thankfully our society seems to be getting to the point where moral relativism/nationalism can be accepted; hopefully the people who should be the ones to bring it to the mainstream aren't all lulled into accepting the only superficially different globalism that is nazism instead

>>2292481
The Nazis weren't moral universalists. They believed in one law for the Aryans and one law for the other races. So much that they didn't even bother attempting to "convert" the Eastern or Jewish peoples, they just killed them off. Islam is a better comparison, but the fact that they were universalists doesn't mean jack when their particular version of universalism is wrong.

>>2292476
The evil is that which works against man's life by blocking the usage of his means of survival (his reason and the features of his body). It is not a meme.

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>>2292521
Hey c'mon nigga you can't reply to the two easy questions then ignore my actual big relativist issue with the idea of banning ideas. That's cop out.

>>2292521
>The evil is that which works against man's life by blocking the usage of his means of survival (his reason and the features of his body). It is not a meme.
It's a shitty meme but you are actually spooked

>>2292392

>fascists are probably BETTER than you at street fights. They are better trained and stronger than you and they will probably pummel your liberal ass into oblivion
>implying modern fascists aren't just far retarded people

Look at Millenial Woes and Mike Enoch. Milo Yiannopolis isn't very threatning either.

>>2292554
>the media plants I see on CNN are representative of fascism
>Milo is a fascist
fucking w e w

>>2292175
Who's they? Illuminati or something?

>>2292187
This, fascism is inherently evil, no positives or good can come of it.

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>>2292521

Killed them off, or, er, made them equals and honorary Aryans under the Axis of anti-communism.

Just like how they supposedly didn't tolerate gays, except for that one gay who was Hitler's right hand man during his rise to power...

>>2292573
The (((Jews)))

>>2292583
Apart from some wealthy individuals though white people have a lot more power than jews do.

To all of the anti-fascist in this thread, I have two (2) questions for you:

1. What is your idealogy?

And 2. Do you think Freedom of Association would be a fix to the Fascist problem, i.g. allowing them to buy and leave to to their own land? Assuming that once on their own land they are not a physical threat to anyone.

>>2292581
huey long and gabriele d'annunzio seem pretty based

>>2292175
fpbp

>>2292597
>Apart from some wealthy individuals though white people have a lot more power than jews do
>implying
Check who runs the information. Any capitalist will tell you that the primary key to successful capitalism (and thus a successful capitalist society) is free flow of information. Control the information, control the society. Again, check (((who))) controls the information.

>>2292521
see, by moral universalism you mean "thinks all men are created equal". i don't mean that; i mean it in the sense of "there exists an ideal state of the world and to fight against it, or even to not fight for it, is wrong".

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>>2292170
>Napoleon
>Evil

>>2292187
>Fascism cannot be overcomed by debate

Doesnt this mean that fascism is correct? If you cannot argue against it with any meaningful arguments, but have to resort to shaming and hurting those who promote it, does that not mean fascism is correct and you are wrong?


This is probably bait anyway

>>2292170
Attila the Hun at best.

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>>2292782
This. Unlike Hitler he actually did nothing wrong.

>>2292804
No, it means that fascists won't care about your arguments and will just brute force and demagogue their way into power anyway.

>>2292863

Hitler only lost once

>>2292170
Did Napoleon genocide anyone?

>>2292906
No

>>2292906
My feelings, yeah.

>>2292295
That can be said about most leftards nowday
Trump's election showed us how intolerant and fascist-like the modern left is

>>2292393
>Normalization makes the old extreme the new average, and humans always tend towards the average in everything.

That's usually the contrary, unless we're talking about extreme and blind tolerance of everything

>>2292337
I don't know, I skipped to the middle and only watched two minutes but roland seems to employing the most annoying fallacy by forming an argument based on a falsehood he insists is true and unquestionable. Thus he argues "You cannot disagree with Z because X led to Y" but refuses to admit the possibility that Z is wrong, and refuses to discuss it.

>>2292187
Fascism is good though

>>2292775
Is that why an anti-semite has been elected president?

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>>2292978
>an anti-semite

Oy vey!

>>2292170
Full disclosure, I'm basically historically illiterate, but my understanding is that other historical figures killed a lot of people but they also accomplished things by doing so. Conquered enemies, built empires, amassed wealth, spread their ideals, culture and knowledge, and so on.

What did Hitler accomplish?
He killed a lot of what he'd consider undesirables obviously, but it seems like everything he stood for has been defeated, and again forgive my ignorance if this is wrong, but I always assumed his actions may have been part of what caused it.
Would people be as against antisemitism, racial supremacy theories or just general /pol/ shit today if it weren't for him? It might not always be that way, of course, which will obviously affect how he's viewed in the future.

>>2292337
Is it actually possible for a rational discussion in this country. No matter who is doing the interview they purposely attempt to bait and trick the other person into saying something stupid, and rather than that other person realizing this and addressing it they pussyfoot and it makes everyone look stupid. One side is trying to argue semantics and orgasm at his trivial victory and the other side looks like a stammering fool who was supposed to give a speech about a novel but didn't read the book.

>>2292985
>wikipedia as a source

dropped

>>2292554
> Milo
> fascist

what's with this board and the increasing number of autists?

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>>2293012
((Sheldon Addelson)) detected

>>2293049
>no sources

dropped

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>>2293059

>>2293065
>8ch

stop trying

>>2292392
>You should give your government the power to ban ideologies! What could go wrong!?

>>2292175

fuck off /pol/

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>>2292340
>Notice that Communism, although bat shit insane, doesn't inherantly include nativism or militaristic expansion.
>Communism doesn't have militaristic expansion

>>2293065
>8ch
You can go back there

>>2292175
/thread

>>2292480
>Yeah well back in 1918 everyone thought war was over for good
In 1919 there were numerous voices that denounced the Peace of Versailles a temporary armistice. It's why France went right into building a giant line of fortification on its border with Germany immediately after the war. Nobody really thought war was extinguished for good.

>>2292170
>Implying human beings won't be extinct within the next 50 years

>>2292804
>Doesnt this mean that fascism is correct?

Pressupositionalism can also not be overcome by debate. It''s not a matter of correctness, it's a matter of structure.

>>2292170
>Start a war
>Lose it
top kek Hitler will always be a joke and an example of why to not put spergs in positions of power.

>>2292270
>No genocides
Ayy lmao Baghdad says hi
Also, he raped way more than just mongol women. Genghis' rape train was an international boning event, with pus from the orient all the way to Iraq and Poland.

>>2292321
>You're allowed to say what you want until you start threatening people
We actually have a similar thing in America, but somewhat different.
We have this thing called the fighting words clause, that allows for one to physically assault another person with minimal legal repercussions, but only if that person is using hardcore slurs or direct threats.

For an example, if you start going up to a black guy here, yell "nigger!" In his face, and threaten to shank him, he can legally beat the shit out of you under US law.

>>2294060
For another example, if an Arab man approached you and said that you are a dirty infidel who should burn in hell, you're in your rights to strike him down.

>>2292304
This is what

/his/torians actually believe

This board is lost

>>2294114

Man shut the fuck UP
>replies to shitpost
>le board is lost XDD

Please back to r3d1t... YOU meme fags are fucking everywhere

>>2292179
(((((meme))))))

>>2292554
>milo
>fascist

LMFAO dont call that little gay boy a fascist

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>>2292187
>>2292581
>>2292318
>>2292449
>>2292521

>>2292175
/thread

>>2292175
WTF I hate jews now

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>>2292179
>I-It's just a meme go-guys

>>2292170
yes because white people will be like 1% of the worlds population and white people are the only ones who hate hitler. Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Arabs, all immensely love Hitler, you guys have no idea, seriously.

>>2293552
>not understanding context of the cold war

>>2294655
>communism didn't have military expansion before the cold war

Poland would like a word

>>2292175
/thread

>>2292978
>Trump
>anti-semite
bait

>>2294617
That's because they're all bandwagon authoritarians, and they all hate Jews for whatever reason.

>>2294617
>white people are the only ones who hate hitler
It's because of Jews conditioning white people to hate him. To me he's just another dictator, I don't love him but I sure don't think he's the devil incarnate.

>>2292337
>reasonable debate
Did you even watch the video?

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>>2296900
>gave the reds half of Europe and directly laid the foundation for commie fucking shits to ruin large portions of the globe
>forced the US to go from being an isolationist power into a world superpower
>destroyed the western colonial empires
>spread German autism to the Arabs, thus turning them from a quaint backwater into a plague on humanity

If you like Western civilization, you're not going to like the guy.

>>2292337
>reasonable debate
>SHEEET NIGGUH WE WUZ PYRAMIDS CUZ AFRICA = BLAG PEOPLE
That negro is literally like a /pol/ caricature coming to life.
The only embarrassing thing Spencer did in that video was saying he's a "cultural Christian" while in reality he absolutely loathes Christianity and is a crypto-pagan. He's willing to even endorse Kek over Jesus.

>>2296924
>Atlantic allies ally with the USSR
>Hitler fights USSR
>therefore it's Hitler's fault that USSR won
These are some gold medal winning mental gymnastics right here.

>>2292337
>You know what the worldview in which Fascism makes sense is? One of violence.
Fascism is first and foremost a worldview. It's a worldview that places great importance in hierarchy, respect for authority, strength over weakness and the spiritual over the material world.

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>>2292263
Well, they do.

>left antagonizes everything right of Lenin as racist, homophobic, islamophobic or nazi
>be SHOCKED when actual nazis show up

This isn't even that hard to figure out. I always remember Ajax supporters in the Netherlands who got teasingly called Jews and kikes by everyone until they unironically embraced it and now they're showing up to games with Israeli flags and shit like that.

Also, do you remember who were the first people who advocated beating nazis up instead of debating them? The Weimar German communists. Do you remember how nazis reacted? By forming the SA.

>>2292554
>Look at Millenial Woes and Mike Enoch. Milo Yiannopolis isn't very threatning either.
None of those people identify as fascists. Milo is a civic nationalis and millenial woes and enoch are white nationalists. Nationalism isn't the same as fascism.

>>2292554
>Milo
>a Jewish homosexual libertarian who sucks black dick, promotes racial equality, supports Israel and worships money

If he's a fascist then he's the least fascist kind of fascist that ever existed.

>>2292978
>Is that why an anti-semite has been elected president?
Trump is more pro-Israel than Obama and his daughter converted to judaism, ehat the hell are you talking about?

There are literally people ITT who think Trump is antisemitic and Milo is fascist, I feel like I'm in a fucking salon.com comment section. I mean at this point are these posters even worth debating?

>>2296993
>There are literally people ITT who think Trump is antisemitic and Milo is fascist, I feel like I'm in a fucking salon.com comment section. I mean at this point are these posters even worth debating?
As someone earlier in the thread pointed out debating is about winning over the people in the center. Altough it does pain me that I share this board with people who unironically are part of the regressive left.

>>2296993
to be fair some of the people on today's nationalist right are legitimately fascist and should own up to it rather than pretend they're not; fascism is a valid ideology though, and the people from the left calling them that generally don't think so

>>2292175
needs another /thread desu

>>2292187
I don't like Fascism, rather hate it cause its retarded but I have to do this

>GOOD
>EVIL
LMAO

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>>2292782
>>2292863

>>2292350
your whole speel about why trump won is bullshit. He got less votes than Romney, he was not any better at gaining the middle America that will always vote red no matter who you put up there, even Donald fucking Trump. It was hilary's election to win and she lost. Trump just had to get an average turnout, but Democrats need a truly charismatic and morally-sound leader to get their votes. The real difference between this election and the last two is that Democrats didn't turn out for their candidate, because the charismatic and morally-sound guy they wanted was rejected.

Write a book about Trump's triumph, it'll all be bullshit if it's not centered around the fact that the Democratic party fractured its base and they didn't go to the polls in protest, which is the only reason why an average Republican turnout won out.

[spoiler]also Russians; )[/spoiler]

>>2292887
So we better not care about their arguments and use brute force and demagogery to get in power first!

>>2292175
pbbbppptt

>>2296993
I'm just telling myself it's bait, but it's getting hard to tell

>>2292408
But killing people is fun.

>>2297217
>also Russians
You better be trolling

>>2294043

There is no way the Sack of Baghdad would qualify as genocide.

It did not target a cultural group, as the Mongols left much of the areas surrounding Baghdad untouched. It offered the city terms of surrender, which had the arrogant Caliph accepted would have saved the population.

The citizens of Baghdad are not a cultural group nor were they targeted with the intent of erasing their culture.

Call it a war crime if you want to get sentimental about a warring empire getting its shit kicked in, but it wasn't a genocide.

>>2297260
Then kill yourself.

>>2292170
Eventually he'll become a Dracula-like figure, I hope.

>>2293930
Yeah but they lost the will to go to war and wished it to be gone. That's why France didn't curb stomp Germany as soon Hitler even started to think about remilitarizing.

>>2294043
Ghenghis khan had nothing to do with baghdad. He smashed Urgrench, Baghdad happened years after he died. It's understandable to get confused as the mongols have eradicated more than one city and they all have khan in their name.

>>2292270
>no purges
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll
The mongols managed to beat the first world war on death toll, considering they used arrows and managed to kill more people than artillery, that's pretty fucking impressive.

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>>2292170
Stalin is already lookes on favorably by a lot of peopele and Hitler will be too eventually.

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Fascism brings up some good economic points. Some aspects of a socialist economy like government management are good. Of course, debating libertardians, John Gaylts and neocons seems pointless when they completely refuse to accept the facts that NatSoc Germany and Fascist Italy were on the rise economically and Falangist Spain didn't work because it was fucking Spain and even then under Falangism they did better economically than they do now.

>>2292175
People use echoes and talk about jews with greater frequency here than even on /pol/.

>>2292337
Probably the worst example you could have possibly chosen.

>>2292920
Authoritarian.
Just say authoritarian.

Maybe Stalin
I don't think there was anyone like Hitler in history to compare him to so we will have to wait

>>2292995
Yes i've always thought that 88 was holding the 1488ers back.
I don't see any benefit to the hitler worship.

>>2296993
To add to that. Richard spencer isn't a fascist either. The guy is mild as fuck and i honestly feel bad for him because every side of the political scale flings shit at him and misrepresents him.
Stormfags endlessly prattle on about him being a homosexual and leftists call him a nazi.

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>>2296993

>>2294043
That's not a genocide faggot. Khan killed whoever didn't bend the knee. Not specific races or religious groups.

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>>2292179
>unironically mad about le /pol/ boogieman on fucking 4chan

>>>>>Reddit

>>2301769
>recognizing memes and where they came from makes you reddit
>being this new

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>>2292187
>shame and physical/moral violence

>>2294617
this , asian here
hitler is considered a curiosity here and the more the west demonise him the more interesting he became, quite people adore him, also politic aside, people in general like nazi aesthetic

>>2292295

That's sounds exactly like a typical progressive.

>>2304192
Yeah it's weird how similar idealogues are to each other.

>>2300726
He looks like a literal mad scientist.

>>2292170
In hundreds of years race as we know it won't exist. You'll literally be able to buy white DNA the way you buy a car or college degree. He'll be seen the way we see Roman emporers fighting over salt mines. Outside of the West he's basically like Genghis khan.

>>2292170
Possibly the romanticization of the Golden Age pirates offers a clue. At the time, they were regarded about like Westerners regard ISIS, now they are played as comic geroes by Johnny Depp. In 2216, will Terrorists of the Middle East be a hit movie?

>>2292361
Even if true, the spectrum shifts about and what is "centrist here and now is not "centrist" everywhere, everywhen.

>>2292170
I think so. Nobody denies that Ghengis Khan was a horrible person who did terrible things. But he also had a silver lining to some of the awful shit he did that we can appreciate more objectively due to the length of time since his existence.

And for all the fucked up shit Hitler did, there were a few good things that happened as a result of his rule. It's just that nobody really wants to talk it yet because the wounds are still fresh. Eventually he'll be seen as just another crazy ruler from history rather than evil incarnate.