ITT: red flags that a church is retarded I'll start: "We

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>our infallible authoritative figure in into fetish porn

>>2262958
Has "baptist, Calvin, Lutheran or LDS" in the title

>>2262958
What's the problem? I'd spit on a church that isn't KJV only.

>>2262958
""sola scriptura" but we still believe in the Trinity"

It's a church.

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Give me lots of money, or you cant go to heaven

>>2264500
This.

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>>2264500
Thread over

>>2264484
Dank.

>they want you to follow their leader to lessen your time in purgatory

>>2264580
Follow on twitter, i should add

>>2264484
The trinity is biblical, heretic

>>2262958
>has "Catholic" in the title

I've always found it funny how Americans bother distiguishing between different heresies and treating some of them as more valid.

>>2264591
?

>>2264595
Orthodoxy is the only valid form of Christianity.

>>2264602
Orthodoxy is unbiblical

>>2264611
No, in fact it is the original form of Christianity and the only one that has stayed unchanged.

>Christianity isn't a religion, it's a relationship

>>2264614
The bible says sinners are justified by faith alone, Orthodox say sinners have to justify themselves

>>2264614
>for you
Roman-Catholic Church is Mother Church. All other = heresy

>>2264602
As soon as you find
>patriatchs
>priests
>bishop-presbyter distinction
>dormition of mary
in the bible that'll be true.

>>2264629
The pope is the man of sin and son of perdition

>>2264626
>>2264629
>>2264633
Catholicucks successfully triggered. Enjoy your muslim-loving Argentinian interracial fetishist.

>>2264635
The Pope is an albeit arbitrary but constant representation of saint Peter, who was an Apostle I might add, on this Earth. Sent from God/Jesus. you cant beat that shit homie

>>2262958
>red flags that a church is retarded

Here's an easy one

>it's a church

>>2264636
Catholics don't believe that though

>>2264636
Wait wait wait. Nobody said their authority is infalible. Hell I dont even believe in the holy mother Church, but it is the least shitty and probably the original connection between this world and the beyond.

>>2264639
The papacy is an invention of satan

>>2264633
>ignoring the holy tradition and men from which the bible came from while worshipping the bible
protestant logic

>>2264500
Ebin

>>2264658
>holy tradition
Where is that in the bible again?

>>2264665
10/10

>>2264658
Tell me more about this oral torah mr rabbi

>>2264586
Shhh, of course it is, no tears

>>2264694
It is
One God
Three persons

>>2264665
All throughout.

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>>2262958

>>2264738
No it's not

>>2264757
It is by implication. Who compiled the Bible? How did they decide which books to include, and which to exclude? What is the Bible recording in the first place?

>>2264776
>Who compiled the Bible?
God
The first time an ecumenical council defined canon was in 1546

>>2264784
>God compiled the Bible
Where is that in the Bible again?

>>2262958
The fact that it's a church is more retardation than I can stand

*tips*

>>2264789
2 Timothy 3:16

>>2264795
>2 Timothy 3:16
Says shit-all about how the Bible was compiled, i.e. how it was decided which books count as "scripture", so no. Try again.

>>2264803
The bible is self-authenticating, it is not compiled by anything but itself.

>>2264819
>The bible is self-authenticating, it is not compiled by anything but itself.
Where is that in the Bible again?

>>2264823
Every word in the Bible is God-breathed, and the Bible even says that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God

>>2264840
Still waiting on that Biblical citation.

The Word of God is Jesus and the Holy Spirit btw, not the Bible.
>And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
>And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God

>>2264819
And that is why there is only one universally accepted version that has never been changed, translated, edited or amended.

>>2264819
>self-authenticating
I love how the religious think this is a meaningful statement

>>2264853
>"all Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness"

-2 Timothy 3:16.

>>2264895
Again, that does not say anything whatsoever about the Bible being self-authenticating and compiled by itself, so no. Try again.

>>2264899
So you do not believe the bible is the word of god, thats fine, just keep bowing to the pope

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>>2264614
Orly?

>>2264906
The Bible itself says that the Spirit and Jesus are the Word of God, not the Bible. So you are contradicting the Bible.

And you still can't provide any biblical basis for how the Bible was compiled or why one specific set of books is part of it while other books aren't, so all your arguments fall apart.

>>2264916
I suggest you read the bible, and if you find evidence that it is god-breathed, good for you

>>2264922
The Bible is certainly God-breathed. The point is that you can't justify its compilation without reference to tradition, because the Bible doesn't say anything about its own compilation.

>>2264922
Everything is God-breathed, and nothing but God is perfect.

>>2264934
Tradition is man made, not god breathed

>>2264932
>The Bible is certainly God-breathed

If you believe that then what does its compilation have to do with it?

>>2264922
By the way "God-breathed"/"inspired" (θεοπνευστος) is not the same thing as "Word (of God)" (λόγος). The Greek word for "God-breathed" implies the presence of the Spirit in the Scriptures, but it is the Spirit that is the Word, and not the Scriptures themselves. The idea of the Word is a technical one relating to the role of the Son and the Spirit - see the beginning of John especially for an explanation of the Son as the Word.

>>2264949
>Tradition is man made, not god breathed
Wrong. Tradition comes from the apostles, who are "all filled with the Holy Spirit" according to Acts. Now, since in Greek spirit and breath are the same word, "God-breathed" literally means filled with God's Spirit. In other words, the Apostolic tradition is in fact God-breathed, as the Bible itself says.

>>2264949
>If you believe that then what does its compilation have to do with it?
2 Timothy just says "all scriptures" are God-breathed, but it never says which books count as scriptures. That's where the question of compilation comes in. It is Apostolic tradition that established which books were considered scriptures, and therefore known to be God-breathed.

>>2262958
It's a church.

>>2264984
The Bible says that we have one authority and that is Jesus Christ. The Bible says that the one who gives us revelation is the Holy Spirit.

But the Catholic Church teaches that it is the authority and interpretation can only come from it.

Who's authority do you follow?

>>2264994
Yes, we have one authority and that is Jesus Christ. His revelation is given by the Holy Spirit, through (1.) the Bible, as 2 Timothy says, and (2.) the Apostles and the Church that carried on their traditions, as Acts says. Both of them are God-breathed, and both are therefore authoritative.

>>2264994

One that isn't retarded.

>>2265010
...because both reveal the will of Jesus Christ, who is the one authority.

>>2265013
The one thats inviting muslims to migrate to europe and destroy white civilisation?

If thats not retarded, then it must be a consciously evil act

>>2265024
It's not for you to question the will of God and his Church.

>>2265024

There is no "white civilisation" and belief in sky pixies is equally hilarious.

>>2265067
It worked for Martin Luther,your "god breathed" church isn't charging gold to get into heaven anymore, is it?

>>2265024
>>2265074
Come on, we were having a perfectly good Catholics vs. Protestants thread before you faggots just had to step in

>>2265076
You couldn't be more right.

>>2264823
>>2264853
>>2264992
The bible is true because the bible is true

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>>2265151

>>2262958
>"We aren't a perfect church, but we serve a perfect God."
Guess what /cunt/?

>>2264653
Jack Chick, is that you?

>>2262958
"We condemn Halloween for having pagan roots, but still celebrate Christmas" is a pretty big red flag for stupidity

Fuck Protestants. I'll be honest, I'm a Greco-Roman polytheist who pretty much hates all of Christianity and the Judeo-Christian worldview in general, but Protestants are the absolute worst.

Especially American Protestants

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>Implying the Bible is useful for anything other than an instruction manual for tyranny and proto-fascism
>Abrahamic religion in general is oppressive bullshit
>As bad as Christianity is, Islam is worse

Fuckin' Protestants, man. These profligates make my blood boil. I'm seeing red at the mass idiocy in this thread.

There, I said it. You can throw all the fedora memes at me, but in your heart, you know it's true.

(BTW, I'm not an atheist, so don't even try)

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>>2265252
>I'm a Greco-Roman polytheist

>>2265252
>Greco-Roman polytheist
AKA you read Percy Jackson in 6th grade

>>2262958
It's not Roman Catholic or Orthodox.

>>2265379
Actually, I studied Ancient Rome and Greece since I was young.

Never read Percy Jackson, so try again.

>>2265349
Better a fedora than a pilgrim hat, you Puritan fucktard.

>>2264586
It is, but it is never stated outright and requires study. There have been great people who've interpreted the Bible throughout history, why would you not consult them for theology? The idea that you should understand the Bible in isolation is ridiculous.

>>2264465
Can you explain how KJV is the best? It certainly isn't the most faithful translation.

>>2265427
We don't believe that the bible is the only thing to be read for understanding, in fact we condemn it. We believe scripture is the sole infallible rule of faith for the church.

>I'm a Greco-Roman polytheist
Oh, Oh really. Which of the many traditions that would fall under that definition would you believe in then?
Or do you just believe in some fedorable scientism and modern humanism window dressed as "Greco-Roman"?

Read some Plotinus and grow some hair on your chest brah.

>>2265349
Why

>>2265349
>>2265379
At henotheistic Hellenistic syncreticism has some real culture behind it than a few statues, who the fuck just follows the Olympians?