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I often hear that Islam promotes equality to women or at least

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I often hear that Islam promotes equality to women or at least improve their condition in comparison to the more Misogynistic pre Islamic ME, is this true?
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Does it matter? Bogging yourself down in debates about how to correctly interpret the Koran and the hadiths and the 10,000 autistic scholars who have debated it among themselves for centuries obfuscates from the fact that Muslims are stone age reactionaries.
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Female babies were thrown into a hole
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>promotes equality
Nope.

>improved their condition
Yep. Relatively, obviously.
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>>2249695
No

Yes
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>>2250236
Before pre-Islam period
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>>2249722
Wow, they managed to interview 1.62 billion people.

Also, you are saying "Stone Age reactionaries" as if it is something bad
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>>2250293
Female babies were thrown into a hole
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>>2250329
Actually, they buried the female babies alive
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>>2250329
Females babies were thrown into a hole
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>>2249695

Mohammed's first wife was a wealthy, slave-owning merchant, fifteen years older, and his employer.
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>>2250321
>Wow, they managed to interview 1.62 billion people.
Not him but you have no idea how statistics work apparently.
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>>2250622
>Mohammed's first wife was a wealthy, slave-owning merchant, fifteen years older, and his employer.
>Islam is one of the harshest religions in terms of the tools it uses to control women
Really activates my almonds
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>>2250635
you mean like the ones that said hillary would win by a landslide?
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>>2250640
Those were deliberately doctored and you know it.
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>>2250641
every statistic I don't like is doctored
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>>2250641
Not they werent, they were actually pretty accurate. They just got a couple of states badly wrong and those ones were the ones that mattered
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>>2250644
>polls ran by liberal rags like CNN and NYT where Hillary always wins by a landslide
>independent internet polls and Trump always wins
Yeah not doctored at all.

>>2250647
>they were actually pretty accurate except that they weren't
lmao
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>>2250647
>pretty accurate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwb0gwGXejI
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>>2250647
Hmm yes, very accurate.
I'm glad Clinton is being inaugurated instead of Trump.
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>>2250293
>before
>pre-Islam
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>>2250622
Uthman was a dick. All the other Rightly Guided caliphs alright.
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>>2250321
Does it matter islam is bad we have to invade the middle east again i think iran should be next
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>>2250660

You would browse /his/, you fucking skank whore.
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>>2250701
Seriously hoped nobody would notice the slip
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>>2250701
Asking for a friend why would you hate me? Is it because he's hueg and ripped and incredibly handsome?
Not me btw
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>>2250647
Hmmm, Trump got 59.4 million votes, while Clinton 59.6 million votes. After being filtered through the electoral college system that comes out as a Trump win. Weird.
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>>2250660
>>2250707
>>2250701
>>2250723
Fuck off with your namefag drama you tranny faggots.
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>>2250649
>pulitzer prize winning publications that are held as the gold standard all over the world are LIEberal rags

>breitbart and infowars are legitimate sources of news that practice responsible journalism.
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As with everything about Islam, it frames itself with a reference to their holy book quite conservatively.

When they say "equality" they mean the same thing as when they say that Islam is a religion of peace, which it is. But it's obviously an imperialistic kind of peace(e.g the world will be peaceful when every country is Muslim).
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>>2250729
really sizzles your steaks
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>>2250735
>trying to debase Breitbart
Lmao ok CNN

>>2250730
Relax fuccboii
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Clinton did nothing wrong.
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>>2250735
>pulitzer prize
>an establishment jew prize awarded by establishment jews to establishment jews
Even when you try to appeal to authority you fuck it up, reddit.
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>>2250745
>Using Jew support as a negative when president wants to continue 51st state tier friendship with Israel
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>>2250754
...because Israel is the problem in the world

Not him btw, your news sources are showing. ABC, CNN please fuck off forever
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>>2250768
>4chan is defending Israel now

Fuck it
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>>2250754
>using Jew support as a sign of credibility
>Pulitzer prize named after a Jew
>board full of Jews
>CNN and NYT are credible media
Just lmao.
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>>2249695
That's horseshit invented by Muslims to whitewash their religion.

Historical accounts and archeology point out a relative strong position of women in pre-Islamic Arabian society. There were scores of female rulers (like Zenobia or Queen of Sheba). Heck, even Muhammad himself was financially supported by his first wife who owned a small trade empire.

If anything, the position of women actually decreased once Islam set in.
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>>2250773
Only the alt-right and their trannies, tbqh.
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>>2250777
Just as in Christianity, women were more free in pagan societies.
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>>2250773
>4chan is a hivemind that always conforms to my particular views
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>>2250773
Yeah bro I'm 4chan ask me anything

>>2250776
>pic
Jesus
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>>2250776
>some of the highest prizes in the world are useless and have no credibility because LOLjews.

>dogshit that supports my PoV and actually misinforms people with false news reports is real news because it lets me live in my echochamber.
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>>2250773
Who is this 4chan guy? Is he the 400 pound hacker?
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>>2250773
What did he mean by this
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>>2250788
>"highest prize in the world" (read arbitrary shit awarded by the liberal Jewish establishment and the establishment telling people it matters)
>reddit spacing
You have to go back.
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>>2250788
>axiomatically assuming the pulitzer holds water in 2017
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>>2250779
Tbh I'm kind of wary of the rate the alt right becomes cucky about Israel.
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>>2250783
Is the only defense muslimcucks have when narratives about their religion are exposed as false hurrrrr Christians did it too?
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>>2250788
>dogshit that supports my PoV and actually misinforms people with false news reports is real news because it lets me live in my echochamber.
but you were defending CNN?
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>>2250791
>reddit spacing
kek.
fuck off buttflustered retard.

I will believe a newspaper that doesn't "prove" that climate change is a hoax by misinterpreting data.
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>>2250797
didn't see CNN claim that scientists are all lying scum who are paid by the chinks to kill american manufacturing.
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>>2250788
Pulitzer has about as much as weight as this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Artist_of_the_USSR
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>>2250801
i don't think fox said that either
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>>2250806
fox is now too liberal.
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>>2250798
The Redditor is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a cuck, shill, autist, retard, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Redditor and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I've been found out."
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>>2250808
wtf i hate mainstream conservative media now
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>>2250809
The /pol/yp is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a cuck, shill, autist, retard, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a /pol/yp and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I've been found out."
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>>2250808
Fox is bad news too

Journalism is dead. Partisan journalism is now in and the quality of the author comes down to the most credible primary sources. Breitbart had nothing to hide because he was on the side of truth. CNN is yellow just like all other major outlets- they're bought.
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>>2250788
>can't address the fact CNN is blatantly biased and lying
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>>2250814
It's just a reversion to mean thanks to the Internet. Journalism was a complete joke too a hundred years when every mid sized city had three dozen competing blatantly partisan newspapers.
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>>2250814
The main difference between Breitbart and CNN is that Breitbart doesn't pretend they're not biased as fuck. They're very honest about their bias. Meanwhile CNN present themselves as a serious, unbiased source that reports total horseshit. I didn't even realize it until the war in Syria started and they started feeding people easily debunkable disinfo.
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>americans ruin yet another thread
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>>2250815
yes.
But CNN doesn't go out of it's way to deny scientific data as a hoax.

I can deal with CNN's biases, like their wrong polls.

But a 5 minute video "proving" (((climate change))) is a hoax masquerading as a legitimate newsgiver grinds my gears.

I do think Fox news is important because it serves as a good counter point to the largely left leaning media. I don't have to extend the same courtesy to breitbart.
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>>2250822
tell me about it.
Wait until someone gets triggered and starts posting porn.
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>>2250823
>reddit spacing
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>>2250813
Goebells memes are so powerful even leftist cucks have to appropriate them

Sad!
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>>2250821
>very honest about their bias
>say that muslims destroyed a church in germany
>german government and police comes out the next day that it is in fact there and undamaged.

oh wow. such refreshing honesty.
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>>2250813
>/pol/yp
Jesus dude please neck yourself

This is the lowest quality post I've read in a while

Look at all this fedora

Cancer. cancer, dude. This is just

Doesn't even matter what side you're on here, I didn't even look at the person you quoted. Gross.

>>2250821
That was pretty much my point my dude

>>2250817
This was also my point but I'm on my phone and I'm supposed to be asleep

>>2250823
CNN does exactly go out of its way to present bullshit data to support their bullshit agenda. And fox isn't a counterpoint.

>>2250822
What are you talking about we're asleep and I'm on vacation in mexico
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>>2250828
>people using easy to parse text?
>they must be redditors

really makes me think.
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I need to revise my post >>2250837 and quote >>2250809 too
I should have looked at who you quoted
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>>2250823
Who gives a fuck about climate change, it's a non-issue. But you're apparently OK with the CNN presenting islamic terrorists as "moderate opposition", presenting extremely violent riots as "protests", blatantly doctoring data, calling violent attackers "unarmed men" to win viewer's sympathy, etc. CNN can crash and burn, it's pretty much Pravda tier at this point.
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>>2250837
>namefag
>calling others low quality.

kek. Stay in mexico. No need to come over.
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>>2250832
>>2250840
Underaged meme spewers out.
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>>2250843
>climate change is a non issue
>rising sea levels and massive humanitarian crises that will make current levels of refugee migrations look like a sunday strolls are a non issue.
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>>2250848
>will make current levels of refugee migrations look like a sunday strolls are a non issue.
I thought the refugees were good doctors lawyers scientists and engineers who were going to enrich our lives and our culture.
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>>2250846
>only memes that agree with MY political sensibilites are allowed here.

you can fuck right off to your board faggot. Maybe discover the next plot the jews are using to take over the world and how papa trump with his jewish daughter and son in law can stop them.

Oh, OP. Islamic rule might have been better when it came in 7th century arabia, but it is backwards and doesn't jive with present day values now, Either it needs to go, or everyone else needs to become islamic.
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>>2250845
I'm a US citizen, here on vacation
I'm not even a namefag I'm a trip from /fit/ and I left this on because I left my trip on earlier

Top ad hominem there fuccboii but where was I wrong?
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>>2250853
I've never used /pol/, faggot.
But using doge memes past 2013 is fucking embarrasing.
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>>2250852
>I thought
don't try and do that. That's why you have nice infographs and Breitbart for.

Oh and by the way most of those refugees are going to be deported, for the simple reason that electorates don't like ooga booga savages.
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>>2250848
Not all of us are in early 20s like you, good thing I'm old enough to remember all these doom sayers even back in the 80s. I remember scientists literally coming out and saying we're gonna be royally fucked if we don't reverse global warming by the year '95. I remember Hollywood propaganda movies like Predator 2 saying Los Angeles in '97 will have Sahara tier temperatures, etc. After some time you just start ignoring this shit, it's like Jehovah's witnesses crowing about the second coming or libertarians predicting hyperinflation crisis, it just never fucking comes true.

By the way, when did they stop saying "global warming" and started saying "climate change"? Must've been sometime in the mid 2000s after all their predictions got shredded to shit.
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>>2250861
>doge memes
what? where was my broken sentence and purposeful misspelling?
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>>2250865
So they weren't doctors and lawyers after all.

Too bad.
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>>2250861
Another ad hominem
As long as sharia law is considered Holy text and not Muhammad's bullshit, it doesn't belong in modern times.

>>2250868
Was also wondering this

>>2250865
Can you PLEASE share your source of enlightened news?
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>>2250870
>Can you PLEASE share your source of enlightened news?
https://www.4chan.org/
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>>2250870
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/736818/Migrant-crisis-Angela-Merkel-deport-100-000-refugees-failed-asylum-seekers-Germany

people love jumping to conclusions and cherrypicked images to support their stances, on both sides of the spectrum.

Here is an actual executive order done on the tail end of november.

Most of them are going to be kicked out one way or another.

>>2250869
Retards like this that think a bunch of young aged college kids holding a banner means that germany will permanently become an african tier shit hole, even though the less than stellar actions of refugees have only made them more hated by the relatively moderate section of the electorate. They acted like chimps and they are going to be given the boot. I do not give a fuck if CNN and john oliver do a sob story on poor refugees being deported from germany because human interest stories are great for getting an emotional response. The muzzies are going to be kicked out of germany one way or another, and people without families are going to be most of them.
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>>2249695
What does it matter? The reality is it hasn't moved on from its inception in terms of women's rights and most ME countries are shitholes that are the worst for women in the modern world.
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>>2250866
>>2250866
Because you subhuman dumbfuck there wasn't going to be literal global warming. Polar icecaps melting would result in a variety of changes to the environment, including MORE extreme weather patterns, slowly shrinking icebergs and the like which over time will release loads of trapped co2 in the atmosphere.

Your argument is
>if there is global warming, how come I hold snow in my hands?
tier.
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>>2250858
>I'm a trip from /fit/

*cringes*
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>>2250903
They're not going anywhere. Europe had a massive Muslim infestation before them anyway. Girls refuse to identify their rapists for fear of being called a racist.

Europe is literally fucked.
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>>2250917
>europe is fucked
>I learned it on /pol/

The Krauts are going full deport mode, while everyone shitposts about cuckmany. If the fucking face of pro refugee europe goes about turn and starts to deport sandniggers and regular niggers, there is no half way.
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>>2250923
Yeah. And what about the millions of pro Erdogan Turks in Germany? What about basically every Western Europe being a mini Africa? What about entire neighborhoods in Paris being blocked during the call to prayer?

Repeat after this me: Europe is fucked.
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>>2250915
Oh look, another ad hominem
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>>2250906
>On Jan. 26, 2006, The Washington Post stated Al Gore "believes humanity may have only 10 years left to save the planet from turning into a total frying pan."
>Laurent Fabius met with Secretary of State John Kerry on May 13, 2014 to talk about world issues he said “we have 500 days to avoid climate chaos.”
>Rajendra Pachauri, the former head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said in 2007 that if “there’s no action before 2012, that’s too late.”
>In the late 1980s the U.N. was already claiming the world had only a decade to solve global warming or face the consequences.
>National Aeronautics and Space Administration Goddard Space Flight Center head James Hansen warned in 2009 that Obama only “has four years to save Earth.”
>In 1971, another global-cooling alarmist, Stanford University professor Paul Ehrlich, who is perhaps best known for his 1968 book The Population Bomb, made similarly wild forecasts for the end of the millennium in a speech at the British Institute for Biology. “By the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished islands, inhabited by some 70 million hungry people,” he claimed.
>In March 2000, for example, “senior research scientist” David Viner, working at the time for the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia, told the U.K. Independent that within “a few years,” snowfall would become “a very rare and exciting event” in Britain.
>In 2007, 2008, and 2009, Al Gore, the high priest for a movement described by critics as the “climate cult,” publicly warned that the North Pole would be “ice-free” in the summer by around 2013 because of alleged “man-made global warming.”
wew lad

>subhuman dumbfuck
Know your place you millennial faggot.
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>>2250930
>ad hominem

How could I commit a logical fallacy if I'm not even arguing anything?

*cringes at you again*
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>>2250928
>every western europe being mini africa
that's largely france

>pro edrogan turks

turks are not the problem. Current refugees are. Amerisharts saying europe is fucked are laughable seeing as they literally elected a putin shill to their highest office who thinks NATO is obsolete.

If europe is fucked. America is 7 months pregnant with the rapebaby.
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>>2250938
>my hobbies are better than your hobbies
Why even comment
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>>2250936
>Al Gore believes.
>this means all the data is false and we are going to be safe.

It's probably a better thing that other economies are shifting to more renewable sources of energy, seeing as burgers will keep firing coal plants even when they are semi obsolescent.

>muh millenials know nuthing, Boomers are the real herrows.
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>>2250928
And yet europe has actually low crime rates while USA is basically russia tier.
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>>2250939
All of your far right parties are in Putin's pocket as well, enjoy your inevitable race war as Putin steamrolls Estonia and we will build a wall :^)
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>>2250944
No, you see, europe doesn't report it's true crime rate.
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>>2250943
>millenials know nuthing, Boomers are the real herrows.
They're both faggots.

t. gen X
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>>2250945
>far right
yeah, the EU is gonna collapse and countries that benefitted economically from it will shut it down.

>putin
>invading
with what? all those vastly dwindling numbers of alcoholic slavs?
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>>2250945
>muh Russia
Hey Louise Mensch did someone forget to lock the oven door?
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>>2250945
>putin
>country full of rapidly radicalizing central asians
>he gonna liberate europe and build a wall.
kek.
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>>2250950
Russia is not a hollow log

Hillary wanted war with Russia and that scared the God damn fuck out of me
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>>2250660
Ffs why are you on /his/
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>>2250960
Can you

Please
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>>2250943
Al Gore was basing it on Michael Oppenheimer's horseshit predictions.
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>>2250964
What about the thousand scientists that he said agreed with him
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>>2250940
*cringes*
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>>2250959
Russia is a fucking pushover.

That doesn't mean that disbanding NATO, which allows the US to have military supremacy over the EU is a bright idea.
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>>2250970
>maintaining your body is cringe
kys
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>>2250970
>>2250938
>>2250915
>ribbit spacing
>*action asterisks*
Can you fuck off back to ribbit or tumblr or facebook or furaffinity or wherever the fuck you crawled out from you embarrassing newfag loser?
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>>2250975
No, but being a tripfag on a board where people gather to ogle at bare-chested men is.

>>2250977
*cringes*
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>>2250977
This is what happens when you act like a faggot.
Sooner or later actual faggots like>>2250970 begin to feel like they're amongst good company.
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>>2250979
>board where people gather to ogle at bare-chested men
I'm not sure you are where you think you are.
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>>2250979
When will numale redditors accept that they'll never be welcome here?
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>>2250970
Le cringe
X DDDDDD
Gotem
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>>2250979
Gas yourself
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>>2250983
>us alpha /pol/itical vanguard will chase the people out of our safespace.

Fuck off retard. Why don't you go back to /pol/ and prepare for the inevitable american decline?
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>>2250983
We need a mod who starts banning this trash.
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>>2250990
cuck
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>>2250990
FUCK OFF ALREADY
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>>2250990
>safespace
>complaining about bare chested men
>pretty left wing political viewpoints
Sounds like you're the one that wants the censorship
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>>2250995
There are more than one people mocking you.
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>>2250996
Can we go back to how you think CNN is a credible news source?
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>>2250996
There are more than one people mocking you too.
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>>2250992
>>2250994
I know who he is, he's this faggot called Jakob Fogger who lives somewhere around Bogerud in Oslo, I got banned a few times thanks to him because we share the same ISP.
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>>2251004
Isn't it
>there is more than one person mocking you
Or am I having a stroke
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>>2251007
I'm imitating his shit english in order to mock him.
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>>2251009
O-oh

It's past bed time anyway
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>>2251005
I am american you retard.
Back to your cuckshed sven.
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>>2251020
>I am american
din mor suger pikk i helvete Jakob
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>>2251028
What the fuck?
Speak english or arabic you moron.
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>>2251031
>finally dropped his reddit spacing
Good you're learning, now lurk for a few months before posting more.
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>>2251033
what do you mean by reddit spacing you cockmongler?
Seriously this is wine taster levels of delusion
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>>2251031
>arabic
Redditors just can't get their Muslim masters of their heads huh
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>>2251036
I thought we were talking about sweden and that one retard who thinks everyone who disagrees with him comes from his general area and gets him banned.
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>>2251041
>he thinks Oslo is in Sweden
Can't tell if you're trying to falseflag or just completely retarded
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>>2251043
all scandi countries are the same.
Full of themselves and thinking that their tiny ass populations with plenty of resources have a right of telling the rest of the world how to live.
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>>2251045
Stop trying to make us look bad you dumbshit highschool dropout beaner.
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>>2251043
Back to the cuckshed sven
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>/pol/, the most newfag board out there complains about redditors and newfags

You just can't make this shit up.
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>>2251060
Literally strawman. Nobody here claimed to be from /pol/.
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Why is gender equality a good thing? What's wrong with the gender apartheid system like the one in Saudi Arabia?
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>>2251119
Bait.
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>>2250796
Yes.

This happens literally every single time you criticize anything about islam.
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>>2251119
If you're asking the question, particularly about Saudi Arabia, you're beyond reasoning with and any serious reply will simply garner 'women belong in the kitchen/are subhuman/don't deserve rights/etc".

Why bother asking? It's obvious what you think on the matter, and no one will change it.
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>>2251121
>>2251124
I'm neither a troll nor a Muslim, I'm genuinely curious.
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>>2249695
Mohammed married a succesful & rich female trader who came to his aid and paid for everything.

Go ask yourself if it was really so bad before Islam.
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>>2251137
Are you implying that women are not allowed to earn money in the Muslim world?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SWab5EZ6wo
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>>2251132
They legit cannot answer you because there's nothing wrong with it.
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I'm implying that in pre-Islam Arabia women were able to become successful merchants, marry 3 guys and take care for her own.

While the Qur'an and Muslims in general lie about the role of women in pre-islamic times.
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>>2251165
this was meant for you
>>2251142
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>>2251101
Using the term "nu-male", complaining about "reddit spacing", and the ridiculous obsession with interracial cuckolding are all telltales of a /pol/ack.
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>>2251165
Is this bait

How the fuck do they determine the father then?
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>>2250736
>(e.g the world will be peaceful when every country is Muslim)

And how would that work? considering muslim countries in the middle east hate each other and are always throwing shit in each other's direction
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>>2251165
>Arabia wasn't a war torn country where polygamy wasn't necessary for repopulation and sheltering widows
>the bedouin people really only settled their differences with poetry, not millenia of violence
Delusion
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>>2251762
But that's because they practice the WRONG Islam.
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>>2251045
But the scandinavian way of living is objectively right.
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le peaceful Islam meme
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>>2252738
It's not a meme. He religion literally says not to kill others in its Cardinal book: the Koran.
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>>2250649
She won the popular vote by millions, they were right in that she was more popular.
States she won were won by landslides, states she lost were by small percentages.
How were they wrong measuring her popularity?
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>>2252761
It's murder, like every books dealing with jurisprudence does. Not murdering doesn't mean a society can't be warlike.
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>>2252761
Don't insult my intelligence you fucking catamite, I can see for myself how it works out in practice.
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>>2252738
le not being a peaceful religion is supposed to be a bad thing meme

Islam's militarism is one of the things that make it superior to Christianity
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>>2250647
>a couple of states
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>>2249695
The ability to only beat your wife with a small stick, rather than to just beat her to death is an improvement much in the same way that being shot is better than dieing of dysentery.
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Islam is a religion of personal interpretation.
Sure there are parts that express a womans right.
But there are also parts that say women are slaves to their husband. Their husbands wield power, they tell women what to do. The preachers reaffirm it.

Just like how "religion of peace" part of the religion is frequently counteracted by further portions of the Koran where Muhammad goes full African Dictator tier. The preachers typically believe the things muhammad said last are the more important ones.
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>>2250622
You too can fuck your boss someday.
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>>2250783
>women were more free in pagan societies.
nah, lol.
Greco-roman ideals were pretty fucked.
You had romans making fun of the greeks for not beating their wives. Greeks who locked up their women in the back end of the house.
Yeah, marvelous.
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