Would a Korean turtle ship been able to defeat a European

>>2234950
>koreans
>defeating anybody

what do you think

>>2234963
They beat the Finns

>>2234964
revisionist lies

>>2234950
no

>>2234967
Koreans are still around. Finns are only token mongoloid now. They've mostly been genocided and replaced with whites.

you have to consider what the turtle ship was created to counter and how large it is. over in 16th century europe, you have massive ships with over 150 cannons on two-three levels, something like that would literally obliterate a turtle ship.

turtle ships were largely engineered to avoid being set on fire, which was something very popular among japanese navy and pirates. they still can't handle taking four cannonballs to the face every single second.

>>2234979

The battle of lepanto was fought largely via boarding tactics. The spikes on the turtle ship ward off boarders. The profile of the turtle ship is not that high, and those 2nd and 3rd level cannons would overfire.

In keeping with the tactics of the day, the turtle ship would sail under the fire into the general melee, but the prow would be reinforced to crack through and as it passed would be firing continuously at both sides at the lower and more vulnerable hull. A single turtle ship could mangle an entire battle line if used properly.

>>2234963
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Salsu

>>2235016
>BUT GUYS THIS ONE BATTLE WAS FOUGHT WITH BOARDING TACTICS SO OBVIOUSLY THE SHIP OF THE LINE WOULD TRY TO THE BOARD THE TURTLE SHIP

Seriously dude? Im not gonna try and say that a turtle ship didnt kick all kinds of ass but this is insanity. A ship of the line would absolutely obliterate a turtle ship before it EVER got close enough to do any damage.

>>2235056
Well, that also raises the question about how they were both deployed. Ships of the Line were long distance ocean going vessels while Turtle Ships were used for coastal defense. While it's very possible for a turtle ship to close on a ship of the line, it depends very much on the commanders, how they're deployed, etc.

>>2234950
how does it even fight?

I don't know about turtle ships specifically, but in general early modern East Asian ships were easily destroyed by European ships on open water, but had much more trouble in shallow water when they could be more maneuverable. So it really depends on the environment.

Here's a good article on it, though it's about China: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/084387141102300203

>>2235016
Lepanto was literally the last big naval battle in that tradition.