Can the >Holy >Roman >Empire and Kebab Empire be considered

>>2223061
kebab empire was pretty much successor of the entire roman empire since unlike the unholy germans, it was an actual functioning empire not a weird league of nations thing. Also it succeeded rome as the dominant power in the mediteranean.

>>2223082
t.urk

>>2223082

go away achmed

>>2223082
T.horse nigger

>>2223061
Considering the fact that the HRE existed alongside the Byzantine Empire it can't be a successor state to the Roman Empire.

Ottomans have a much stronger claim at being a successor state, by conquest and by blood.

>>2223095
>>2223119
>>2223121
He's not wrong

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>>2223095
>not being Turkish
I'm sorry for you, anon

>>2223119
>>2223121
>>2223095
not even close, you dumb retards, just stating the obvious. If that triggers you , maybe history isn't the place for you.

>>2223187
Are these Turkish sweets? Because I went to Greece and found very similar looking sweets.

>>2223202
baklawa was invented by assyrians, its common throughout the entire eastern mediterannean now from yugoslavia to baghdad

>>2223202
Those are common to Anatolia, Greece/Balkans, and the Levant. Common Ottoman cuisine.

>>2223202
They're Turkish. There's a huge tradition around pastry and sweets.
Yes, some of the Greek ones are similar, but some have different recipes and fillings.
Variety is good.

>>2223236
Yes, as others said it's a common Mediterranean/Levant thing, but has many variations.

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>>2223082
>Ottomans
>succesors of the Roman Empire

>HRE
Only in an ideological sense, which doesn't mean much at all. There's no actual political, institutional or cultural continuity, except for that shared by other Western European states. They continued the name and idea of 'Rome', but nothing beyond that. And no, the Pope did not have magic powers to rewrite history and make them Roman.

>Ottomans
In a geopolitical sense, the Ottomans fulfilled Constantine's vision of an Eastern Mediterranean united under the rule of Constantinople. It was nonetheless a completely different state and civilization from Rome/Byzantium.

The truth is Rome/Byzantium had countless 'successors' since every civilization west of Persia was built on the foundations they laid down. The Vatican, the Ottomans, the HRE, Russia, the Umayyads, the Latin Empire, Romanian principalities, Irish monasteries and the United States were all 'successors' to Rome in one way or another, but none of them have some exclusive claim to being their actual continuation. The only real continuations of Rome were those with direct political continuity, like the Ostrogothic Kingdom or Trebizond, and none survived into the modern age.

>>2223187
>food looks like various types of dirt or mud

No.

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>>2223278
>succesors of the Roman Empire
It's true. And Sultan Erdogan will restore the Empire.

>>2223343
Unless he's going to invite the head of the House of Osman back he's not going to restore the OTTOMAN Empire.

>>2223061

Russia is the successor and the Third Rome. They adopted all of the religious and ceremonial customs in Moscovy that existed in the Eastern Roman Empire. The Patriarch in the 1200's as well as the Duke of Moscovy both stated that it is 'The Third Rome.'

>>2223061
>>2223082
>>2223358
THERE IS NO THIRD ROME YOU FUCKING CUNTS. ROME FELL IN 1453 ONCE AND FOR ALL AND THE CLOSEST THING TO A SUCCESSOR FELL A FEW YEARS LATER. EVERYONE ELSE CLAIMING THAT THEY WUZ ROMANS N SHIT ARE JUST STROKING THEIR OWN DICKS

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>>2223320
>the Ottomans fulfilled Constantine's vision of an Eastern Mediterranean united under the rule of Constantinople
What does that even mean? Constantine ruled over a united empire that spanned the entire Mediterranean, in fact the east was the last part he incorporated into his domain after a series of civil wars. Why would he envision Constantinople being the center of a reduced half? If that was his vision the way he left the empire divided in pic related doesn't make much sense either.

>>2223422
You mean it fell in 1204 and the closest thing to a successor was gradually conquered by the Turks until 1453.

There is no such thing as a successor to Rome.

There is no such thing as a "second" or "third" Rome.

The Roman state was founded in the 8th century BC and collapsed in the 15th century AD.

That's it.

>>2223480
>You mean it fell in 1204
That's like saying the Western Empire fell in 268

>>2223453
I mean Constantine chose Byzantium to be the center of imperial power in the east, a system which the Ottomans restored. Not that he intended for the empire to be reduced to the east.

>>2223538
There was no break in continuity in 268, there was 1204-1261. The capital wasn't sacked, the imperial title wasn't left vacant.

>>2223549
He chose Constantinople to be the center of imperial power period, not just of the eastern half. Constantinople remained the center of imperial power until the center was all that was left, and I don't buy that the Ottomans restored any envisioned system of Constantine's design just because they controlled most of the eastern Mediterranean but also vassals north of the Danube, Mesopotamia, Libya/Tunis, and Arabia straddling the Red Sea. Possessing kinda similar territorial bounds isn't a system.