Alright /his/, what about the Holocaust? Did it happen? Did it

>>2209797
>Did it happen?

Yes

> Did it happen in the same way we are taught it happened?

I have no idea what this means, as it implies it is taught the same way everywhere. It isn't.

> What proof is there that it didn't happen?

Stormfag rambling

>What proof is there that it didn't happen?

You said this before, so I assume that one of the two is proof that it did happen. For an introductory blog as to what proof there is that it did happen, I would recommend this.

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/

>>2209888
> Did it happen in the same way we are taught it happened?

Well the whole thing of rounding up 11 million people where 6 million were jews and putting them in labour camps where they were shot and then later gassed to death.

>>2210000

>Well the whole thing of rounding up 11 million people where 6 million were jews and putting them in labour camps where they were shot and then later gassed to death.

That is not entirely correct. Not entirely incorrect either, but it misses a lot of nuance.

There were enormous rounding up of disfavored populations. However, many where 'merely' ghettoized, and not deported to concentration camps. Others, especially Jews in conquered nations or nations allied to Nazi Germany, were ghettoized first and then the ghettos were 'liquidated' at later dates.

Overall death toll of 'The Holocaust', which is usually held to refer to intentional killings by Nazi Germany of civilians under their administration (and as such, not including the 3-4 million Soviet PoWs who died at a rate far in excess of other German held PoWs from other nations) is usually estimated at around the numbers you gave; 6 millionish Jews, 5 millionish non-Jews, 11 millionish total. However, a lot of those dead Jews were simply murdered by roving Einsatzgruppen and skipped out on the whole go to a camp or a ghetto phase.

Also, while even the mildest concentration camps were pretty horrific and likely to get you killed; most of the KZ killing came from 5 camps/sub-camps, Birkenau (a sub-camp of Auschwitz), Treblinka, Belzec, Chelmno, and Sobibor. Those camps/sub-camps were kill on arrival. Between them, you have about 2 million dead, and most of those victims would not have been worked before execution.

>>2209797
>Did it happen?

yes

>Did it happen in the same way we are taught it happened?

no

>What proof is there that it didn't happen?

maybe

>What proof is there that it didn't happen?

I dont know

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>>2209797

Heres the end of the nazi made film "The Eternal Jew" Notice how Hitler says he will "destroy the jewish race in Europe"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNk_osZWScw&t=83s&spfreload=10&bpctr=1484173563


heres the Posen Speech by Himmler, recorded in 1943 that also mentions the holocaust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_cmbi3iIg

Also to note is SS officer Kurt Gerstein. Gerstein was stationed at the Treblinka extermination camps and was horrified at what he saw, so he tried to leak information about the holocaust to the Swedish Government and the Vatican in what is know as the "Gerstein reports"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerstein_Report

and pic related was a guy in the SS who was stationed at Auschwitz and who came out and said this in a 2005 interview with the stated purpose of shutting up holocaust deniers

>>2210050

I would point out that the Gerstein report has some issues with it, namely how he also adds in a number of things that he didn't actually see, many of which are grossly exaggerated (size of gas chambers and numbers of killed in them) Academia takes it with a large grain of salt.

>>2209797
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>>2210059

the point is that this guy was saying this shit was happening long before any sort of false narrative by the illuminati was being constructed or whatever deniers believe. Its one isolated guy on the other side who is saying it was happening, which gives it much more credence.

Him being distracted by the utter horror of a situation like that and not remembering everything in perfect detail is moot. You have to remember that this was just some pencil pusher basically who got assigned to what he thought would be some boring post in the middle of nowhere, and when he gets there, he is supposed to be in charge of an industrial slaughter of train loads of people a day.