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>HURR DURR ARABS SUCK AT WAR enough with this meme http

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>HURR DURR ARABS SUCK AT WAR

enough with this meme

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/21/us/khomeini-accepts-poison-of-ending-the-war-with-iraq-un-sending-mission.html
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>>2207988
If arabs are so good at war then why does Israel still exist even though they've been trying to remove jews since 1947?
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>can't even defeat one little nation with your squad
>REEEEE ARABS DONT SUCK
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>>2207996
>tfw destroy 400 israeli tanks in one day in 1973
>next day henry kissinger literally replaces them all out of american stock with newer more advanced models

Arabs kinda gave up when they realised they were effectively fighting America because whatever losses they inflicted on Israel, America would instantly resupply them.

Soviet support for arabs was no where near as strong as american support for israel
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>>2208000
Wow, looks like Arabs suck at cultivating alliances then.
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>>2208000
>>tfw destroy 400 israeli tanks in one day in 1973
And lose 2000 tanks in the process
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>>2208004
actually it was 20, kike

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Badr_(1973)
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>>2207996
Jews are even better.
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>>2208012
Regardless Israel ended up destroying over twice the amount of tanks they lost over the war all the while being heavily outnumbered
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>>2208003
>implying anyone can outjew the jews when it comes to cultivating alliances

If fucking Hitler couldn't do it, what chance do the Arabs have?
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>Iran
>Arab

Choose one
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>>2208016
>Say 2,000
>Actually 20
>WELL REGARDLESS
NIGGER THAT IS TWO FUCKING ZEROES
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>>2208023
Nigger, the state of Israel is still around, and in fact has increased their territorial possessions over the Arabs.
Is this Arabic version of Americans claiming that they won Vietnam?
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>>2208016
Maybe those advanced american tanks had something to do with that buddy.
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>>2208000
But if you read it pretty clearly states that the severity of their losses lead them to apply a diplomatic approach as opposed to a military one.
Would you rather deal with Israeli diplomats or Israeli nukes?
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>>2208023
That battle was a fluke, and despite it Israel still came out with a 2.3:1 k/d ratio over the course of the whole war.

By all accounts they should have lost, being attacked and outnumbered on two sides, but Arabs just cant into war.
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>>2208026
I'm saying you blowing off your attempt at correction that was 1,980 tanks off with "regardless" sounds really fucking stupid
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>>2208029
>M48 Pattons
>being appreciably more advanced than T-62's
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>>2208000
>I invent random facts to support my position
You are in the wrong board ,boy
The Soviets fully rearmed the arab armies after each loss, sent their own military advisers and even ended up fighting for them by supplying fighter pilots and SAM crews.
All US did was to impose an ultimatum for Israel Britain and France to leave Egypt alone in 56, and din't even start heavily supplying Israel with arms and intel until after the 67 war (arabs greatest btfo).
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>>2207988
>barely manage not to get BTFO by a nation with that almost entered a civil war embargoed by the entire world
>ayyrabs are good at war
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>>2207988
>particular ethnic group
>bad at war

You know, this isn't /int/
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>>2207988
Iraq invaded Iran. Iraq had massive international support, while Iran was embargoed by everyone. Iraq got it's shit pushed in and was thrown on the defensive. Iraq was bailed out by the international community, slowly got it's shit together and eventually turned the tide on Iran. This led to the winning battles in your image.
The war's widely viewed as a stalemate. But considering that it began as an Iraqi attempt to seize Iranian territory that ended up being mostly fought in their own country because the invasion failed so badly, it could be argued that it was closer to a (costly) Iranian victory.
Overall the war still suuports the stereotype that Arabs can't fight modern wars, as Iraq had a massive advantage and tons of support. A competent force should've been able to win. Not just achieve a bloody stalemate while fighting mostly on their own land in what was supposed to be a war of conquest. The big victories they pulled off at the very end don't change the fact that overall it was yet another pathetic showing by a primarily Arab military in the modern era.
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I always wander why people from dysfunctional countries expect their army to do well.
Imagine the post office or any other government run bureaucracy in your country. Is it any good? Well the army is even worse because the post office actually delivers letters everyday while the army doesn't actually do in its daily life whatever it has to do when actual shit goes down.
Modern war (actually ancient war too) is an exercise in huge logistics problems, command and control structures, handling complicated equipment, having highly trained personnel that is motivated and a lot of other boring things like that. It's not about some "I have the warrior spirit of my ancestors and shittt". This was true to Romans being able, at their good times, to take out huge hords of Germanic barbarians (who individually were probably better 1/1 warriors) and it's also true for a disciplined and tech savvy Israeli city boy fucking up some arab dude who grew up in a poor village and does not afraid of blood but can't into discipline, technology and is being poorly lead by some General that was appointed because he is incompetent enough to not be a threat to the dictator.
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>>2207988
>operation badr
basically managed to recover a highway recently took by iran
>battle of the marshes
pyrrhic victory
>operation nasr
defensive action with river defenses
>tawakalna ala allah operations
superior numbers (1:5 infantryu ratio, 1:14 tanks ratio, 1:17 aircraft ratio)
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