Was this Goebbels basically an anti-semitic Communist? All his

>>2201552
Daily reminder National Socialism has more in common with Stalinism than Fascism.

>>2201552
He was part of the more "Leftist" wing of the Nazi movement, which were basically the actual National-Socialists, but he didn't end up like Roehm or the Strassers.
Maybe in some other universe he became Thälmann's propaganda chief.

Early on he supported 'national bolshevism' and obviously Strasserism but Hitler had a 1 on 1 and set the record straight.

Goebbels had always been interested in a messianic figure to save Germany and found it in Hitler. He doesn't seem to have any strong political opinions of his own and is 100% supportive of Hitler.

Culturally though he was very opinionated on how to get rid of shit music, art, and theater.\\

As for Jews, he uses the word Jew almost like pol uses Jew sometimes. Basically as a catch term for anyone who is degenerate/criminal/selfish. Or to refer to this group in general.

He was anti-Semitic but not the same way as others were. He was far more willing to give a chance to some Jews and to punish non-Jews who were acting Jewish like a Jew. He wasn't super into race theories, and yes he used the term Aryan but usually in association with cultural or artistic types.

>this is an example of Aryan music
>this is what Aryan art should look like

etc.

Not the biological sense that you would see Rosenberg or Chamberlain use the term.

>anti-Semitic communist
So most of post-Stalin communists?
Stalin himself was highly anti-Semitic.

>>2201552
There were two branches in the Nazi party: the left and right. The leftists were much more critical of the establishment and wanted more radical economic reforms, but were still very socially conservative. The right were more willing to appease the establishment. Rohm and the Strassers exemplify the left branch. Hitler viewed them as a threat to his power and eliminated them. Goebbels had left branch beliefs but remained completely loyal to Hitler, and was thus spared.

>>2201574
No. National Socialism is a form of fascism.

has true national socialism or national bolshevism ever been attempted?

>>2201574
>National Socialism
>socialism

>>2202379
Goebbels found this out in 1944 and even stopped calling Stalin a Jew puppet

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>>2202073
>Believed in Great Man Theory
>Devoted to charismatic ideologues
>Lacked political opinions of his own
>Obsessed with purging degeneracy from art and culture
>Categorized anyone foreign, manipulative or criminal as Jewish

Sounds like Goebbels was a proto-/pol/lack. He was probably more ideologically similar to them than Hitler was.

>>2201552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=zbbL4l359bo

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>>2202818
I remember more than a couple feels threads on /pol/ relating to this quote.

The /pol/ack mentality pops up more often than you'd think throughout history. Some of the Confederate "intellectuals" reminded me strongly of the alt-right and /pol/.

>>2202839
Read Pages From a German Destiny for the ultimate JG feels you will ever feel.

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>>2202839
>feels thread
I hardly ever visit /pol/, but considering how much they mock safe spaces and the SJW "muh feels" mentality, the idea of them having such threads is pretty funny.

>>2202839
anybody with depression could relate to that quote it's not even political

>>2202818

Comparing any historical figure to /pol/ is a joke.
/pol/ knows virtually nothing about Nazis(or anything) except that they were edgy.

Even Hitler would cringe at how autistically racist /pol/ is.
Hitler himself thought racial purity was just a good meme to improve morale.

>>2202919
>Comparing any historical figure to /pol/ is a joke.
/pol/ knows virtually nothing about Nazis(or anything) except that they were edgy.
I'm from /pol/, well I admit I don't know much about what policies were implemented, I would bet you I know more about their political doctrine than you.

>Even Hitler would cringe at how autistically racist /pol/ is.
Hitler himself thought racial purity was just a good meme to improve morale.
Source? Because Hitler went on and on above preserving the German-Nordic race in SS Race Theory.

>>2202937

>Source? Because Hitler went on and on above preserving the German-Nordic race in SS Race Theory.

Because it was a good meme to improve morale.
His actual position was that "Nordic-A
ryan blood" enhances the innate qualities of other races, such as his own Austrian Alpine one, but wasn't always inherently superior alone.
This wasn't something he could talk about publicly because it was too complex for the common man, but it certainly explains his soft spot for part-Jews.

If you don't know this stuff then you clearly are a typical /pol/ack who learned everything from memes.

>>2202919
That's why he wrote all about racial theory years before he was dictator or had any political success, right?

>>2202959
>His actual position was that "Nordic-A
ryan blood" enhances the innate qualities of other races, such as his own Austrian Alpine one, but wasn't always inherently superior alone.
From SS Race Theory and Mein Kampf Stalag Edition is that German-Nordic race was the master race because it came from two great races, the Germanic and Nordic races.
>This wasn't something he could talk about publicly because it was too complex for the common man, but it certainly explains his soft spot for part-Jews.
Then why would he publish any anything on race, such as Mein Kampf, SS Race Theory.
>If you don't know this stuff then you clearly are a typical /pol/ack who learned everything from memes.
Then teach me, anon, since you are far more knowledgeable than I

Also, I would like a source for all of what you just said.

>>2202405
>National Socialism is a form of fascism.
No, it's a form of radical nationalism, as is fascism.

>>2202980
Radical nationalism is just one characteristic of fascism, not a worldview or ideology in itself.

>>2202978

You keep spouting these memes about
>SS Race Theory
but these memes were designed to appeal to the common German man who Hitler didn't want to confuse with his actual beliefs.

Where was SS Race Theory when Milch was made Field Marshal?

I'm not saying Hitler wasn't racist he was just more liberal on the idea of exceptions(Aryan blood being stronger than Jewish in some cases).

>>2203003
>You keep spouting these memes about
>SS Race Theory
>but these memes were designed to appeal to the common German man who Hitler didn't want to confuse with his actual beliefs.
Really goes to show what you know. SS Race Theory is a book of Hitler's views writing in Mein Kampf throwing together and published by the NSDAP as a separate book, you fucking retard.

>Where was SS Race Theory when Milch was made Field Marshal?
Milch was half Jewish and if you read anything about the NSDAP racial policies from the start in Mein Kampf you would realize the NSDAP had publicly published their views of blood-integration of half Jews with permission of the SS Monastery.

>>2203037
*ministry
Auto correct is a real bitch.

>>2202405
No it's a different thing, fascism is based on the state while national socialism is based on race.

>>2203044
No, that's a meme. Fascism is based on the nation, which is supposed to become synonymous with the state. The difference between Nazism and Italian fascism is that Nazism places more importance on the role of race in the nation. But they both have the same underlying beliefs.

>>2202986
Fascism is very much a worldview and ideology in itself, which is my point. Fascism was a uniquely Italian radical nationalist movement. "Fascism" isn't a generic catch-all for all radical nationalist movements. National Socialism for example was ethnic nationalist. So how could Nazism be Fascist when Fascism was civic nationalist? They're both strains of radical nationalism like apples and oranges are both types of fruit. Reducing all these hundreds of movements down to "Fascism" doesn't make sense. There isn't that much consistency

>>2203037

Why is it so difficult for you to grasp that Hitler didn't believe in "pure Aryans" but that the Aryan race had been dilluted and degenerated already?

Hitler believed that someone like himself, an Austrian or Milch the half Jew could act more Aryan than a Dane or Swede even if they had less Aryan heritage because the Aryan blood in them was dominant, while it was recessive/degenerated in Scandinavians.

There is hardly any ideological similarity with /pol/.

>>2203064
>nation = state
You're an American aren't you? Nation = ethnicity.

>>2203064
Nazis viewed race as transcending nation. The Aryan race was made up of multiple nations. They recruited non-Germans into the SS and allowed them to wear the SS runes if they were from Nordic stock. Nazism in many ways took racism to the point where it became a transnationalist movement.

>>2203071
>You're an American aren't you? Nation = ethnicity.
English is clearly not your first language. I said that in fascism, the nation is supposed to become synonymous with the state, meaning that fascism wants the state to be composed of and working entirely towards the interests of the nation.
>>2203067
Fascism arose all over Europe out of the same underlying worldview, all of which were racially nationalist and shared numerous other characteristics, such as class collaboration.
Fascist Italy was not civic nationalist. Read this: http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/topic/4333-italian-racial-concepts/#comment-93004

>>2203069
>Why is it so difficult for you to grasp that Hitler didn't believe in "pure Aryans" but that the Aryan race had been dilluted and degenerated already?
No shit - he admitted that a lot of Germans were mixed with other Europeans but what gave them all their quality was GERMANIC-NORDIC BLOOD and that is what will unite the German race. Is that hard for you to understand?
>Hitler believed that someone like himself, an Austrian or Milch the half Jew could act more Aryan than a Dane or Swede even if they had less Aryan heritage because the Aryan blood in them was dominant, while it was recessive/degenerated in Scandinavians.
No, he believed people with German-Nordic mix were best Aryans. You do realize a fuckload of Austrians are ethnic Germans, right? Hence the hole idea of them taking about the lands of their ancestors and invading everything to the East. Milch was half German-Nordic and by direct orders of Hitler and the NSDAP SS Ministry of Race was to be blood-integrated into the German-Nordic race. And of course he believed a half Jew could be more close than Swedes to him because the half Jew was of Germanic-Nordic decent.

>There is hardly any ideological similarity with /pol/.
Of course, I can't speak for /pol/ but I disagree a fuckton of their ideals.

>>2203098

>I shall have no peace of mind until I have planted a seed of Nordic blood wherever the population stand in need of regeneration. If at the time of the migrations, while the great racial currents were exercising their influence, our people received so varied a share of attributes, these latter blossomed to their full value only because of the presence of the Nordic racial nucleus.

This private quote tells you everything you need to know about the inner workings of his brain regarding the subject of race.

>>2203113

>I shall have no peace of mind until I have planted a seed of Nordic blood wherever the population stand in need of regeneration.
WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE WANTED THE NORDIC BIRTHRATE UP
>If at the time of the migrations, while the great racial currents were exercising their influence, our people received so varied a share of attributes, these latter blossomed to their full value only because of the presence of the Nordic racial nucleus.
Wow, almost like he's saying what sets Germans apart from other Aryans is their Nordic admixture.
>This private quote tells you everything you need to know about the inner workings of his brain regarding the subject of race.
Good job proving my point, fgt.

>>2203132

What are you even sperging out about?

I only said that Hitler would cringe at the ideals of /pol/ as he himself was more of "there's some water in the glass, let's see how it tastes" rather than a "this glass of water is only 99% of full so it's empty" guy like /pol/.

>>2203142
Because you said he wasn't open about his racial views when he was.

>>2203159

Of course he wasn't entirely open because he was smart enough to understand that he needs to keep things simple so the common German worker can understand.
He had nothing to gain from publicly announcing that Germans are a mix of Nordic race and not-Nordic race.

>>2203174
I LITERALLY JUST MADE LIKE 5 POST TOWARDS PROVING HE PUBLISHED THIS IN MEIN KAMPF AND EVEN HAD A A BOOK CALLED "SS RACE THEORY" PUBLISHED BY THE NSDAP SO PEOPLE COULD SKIP TO THE RACIAL STUFF AND ALL OF THIS WAS MADE PUBLICLY. HOLY FUCK, M8.

>>2203098
Hitler never used the word Nordic.

>>2203189
WHAT HOLY FUCK IM DONE FUCK THIS

ya did it ya pissed me off good night

>>2203198
Stop making shit up you fucking Jew faggot. He never used that word, that was Rosenberg.

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>>2202405
Stalinism is also a form of fascism.

Deal with it, asshurt tankie.

>>2202919
The dude literally waged an unwinnable war based on his racist delusions.

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>>2203202

>>2203210
That SS book wasn't authored by Hitler you fuck.

>>2203213
Proof? Because if you ever read Mein Kampf you would realize these are just extracts from it.

>>2203222
>proof?
You prove it was. And there's nothing about subracial cathegorization in the Mein Kampf. You genuinely made up that Hitler authorship claim on the spot you disingenuous, lying, stupid cunt.

>>2203227
>Because if you ever read Mein Kampf you would realize these are just extracts from it.
Your proof right there.

>>2203230
In the very image you posted Hitler quotes are in quotes you dumb nigger.

>if you ever read Mein Kampf
I have, hence why I'm calling you out on your lies.

>>2203233
>>2203233
>In the very image you posted Hitler quotes are in quotes you dumb nigger.
WOW, it's almost like a book made after Mein Kampf could have quotes from later Hitler in it. Fucking moron.

>I have, hence why I'm calling you out on your lies.
Good. So tell me what Hitler's ideal expansion of German territory was. Tell me what was Germany's geopolitical end goal was for survival.

>>2203251
What does expansion of territpries have to do with not using the word Nordic? You should be banned forthis shit.

>>2203204
1. No it isn't

2. I'm a fascist ya dingus

>>2203265
Loser

>>2203204
It is not

>>2202831
Hadn't seen, thanks for sharing. His speech on globalism and sweatshops and such gives me shivers.