If in 1941, Germany hadn't gone ahead with Operation Typhoon

>>2196095

What just stops the soviets from building up immensely and attacking when they're sure of a win?

>>2196095
They'd still be pushed back. Usually the soviets had a high casualty count when germans were on the offensive. Soviets were also good at operational concentration

Dunno. Operation Mars showed what happened to a large Soviet offensive against a well prepared German defense. But by giving away the initiative they'd doom themselves to a long, long war that would be cut short by a nuke on Berlin.

>>2196357

>Every single point of a frontline stretching about 2,200 kilometers will have well prepared defenses.

>>2196380
>what is german engineering

>>2196751
nonexistent

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>>2196095
The war was lost for the Axis after failing to capture Moscow and Stalingrad. After that it was a matter of time.

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>>2196751
>The whole trenchline will be guarded by ONE BIG ASS WUNDERCANNON

>>2197197

>don't worry feldwebel, this sector of the front is covered by Dora
>herr leutnant, how long does it take to reload?
>about 20-30 minutes, feldwebel
>excuse me herr leutnant, how long will it take for the ivans to cross the no mans land?
>well, gefreiter lange, as you know, they're about 500 yards away in that village over there, so about 5-10 minutes at a run under fire, longer if they try to sneak up on us.
>...so how many rounds of artillery support do you think we'll get herr leutnant? you know, before we're overrun by the untermensch hordes or we beat them back?
>do you want to be court martialled for defeatism, you stinking bavarian hill monkey?

>>2196751
>what is german overengineering?

>>2197197
Could have built a few thousand more heavy tanks instead of that

>>2196095
Case Blue was launched to make a grab for the oil fields of the Caucasus in light of the desperate shortage of fuel.

considering the Soviets had the manpower and resources to defeat Germany within 4 months of the operation, I doubt just holding a 2,200 km line would've fared much better.

After barbarossa, Germany was getting weaker and weaker every month and it showed on the eastern front, with Operation Barbarossa launched as a massive offensive all across the Soviet Union, then Case Blue was launched the next year, a considerably smaller scale operation that only focused on the South, because Germany lacked the manpower to re-launch anything on the scale of Barbarossa a second time. And the next year was Kursk, a much smaller encirclement operation. And after that, there was no more manpower to raise for an offensive operation.

You can case Case Blue was a high risk gamble just to keep the war effort alive, let alone win the war, and even that didn't pay off.