Right wing nationalism in Ireland has been basically non existant

Man I fucking hate Ireland this place is a shithole but I am glad we don't have any of those right wing fuckers

>>2192532
>Ghandi's revolution in India
>African National Congress
>SNP
>Plaid cymru

What are Left wing nationalists like in Ireland? I'm from Scotland and most SNP supporters are unbearable. The majority of their arguments are just anti-tory and they seem to think that growing up in a scheme and talking like you've got a mouth full of marbles makes you more suited to politics than somebody essentially raised from birth for the role.

Not to denigrate the working class but I'm of the opinion that there needs to be a certain degree of emotional distance between the ruling class and the working class so that tough decisions can be made effectively..

>>2192550

Probably similar to Scottish nationalists in their poxy economic views.

However, some are quite fond of dressing up in paramilitary garb and holding stupid parades. They see themselves as the successors to the IRA yet most are either scumbag criminals or stupid unemployable wanders.

Politically, Sinn Fein is probably the most mainstream of the left wing parties, similar to the SNP. Then you have the AAA-PBP, a populist party that attract the dregs of society. Both have made major gains in the last few years.

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>>2192539

If only the left wing shower fucked off

>>2192532
In America the "republican party" is liberal aka left wing.

>>2192539
>I'm glad to live in a shithole and place I hate as long as this group of people that I hate because my feelings doesn't exists

You must really hate yourself.

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>>2192610

Welcome to Life

>>2192591
I'm from tallaght myself, The AAA seem very popular here, god i cant stand paul murphy!

>>2192622

Smug baldy fucker

>>2192532
Any nationalism that sets itself in opposition to another more powerful and well-established nationalism will tend towards leftism if it doesn't evolve into becoming outright religious.

>>2192539
>this place is a shit hole
>all we have are left wing parties

No shit.

>>2192648
This is the most retarded thing I've ever read.

>>2192665
how's your first 5 minutes on 4chan going?

>>2192656
Actually we only have one left wing party and they're not in power. But in society we don't have any extreme right wingers, only left wingers.

>>2192610
I'm emigrating in like 3 months so

>>2192675
what do you dislike about it here

Dublin here and it's not the greatest sure but it's hardly better anywhere else

Sure look, we all fuckin die

>>2192648
This
>>2192665
Do you have arguments beside "it's retarded" ? Every nationalism sets in opposition to another nationalism in recent history evolved into far-left movement (like in Cuban, against american imperialism's puppet Batista or currently in Venzuela) or into religious movements (like in Iran against american imperialism's puppet Shah, or in Afghanistan with the Talibans)

>>2192698
nationalism is haram in Islam isn't it?

>>2192532
They're not nationalists they're cryptojew goodgoyim working to destroy the nation

>>2192532
>thread about right wingers
>posts Eirigi, who are hard-left knackers

>>2192702
Apparently not in Iran or in Turkey. Also, every independance processus in modern history were either pushed by the left (The US independance was pushed by progressives individuals, thus at the time at the "left" ) or by religious beliefs ( Hidalgo in Mexico for exemple )

>>2192698
Precisely anon thank you.
>>2192702
Not specifically but that so is suicide and the jihadists do plenty of that and it doesn't stop them.

>>2192679
The culture here is fucking poison. It's anti-intellectual. It's impossible to express yourself here.

>>2192743
I think Socrates probably had the same thought at some point. Stay and fight.

>>2192609
Lel no they are far right in most of the world.

>>2192746
Well, Socrates was eventually forced to kill himself so i don't think that's a good exemple.

>>2192675
Don't come to the US. We don't need anymore cancerous leftists

>>2192760
But in so doing he changed the trajectory of his civilization. Plus I don't think that's literally gonna happen to you. Ireland doesn't even have the death penalty

>>2192746
I'll be back one day to fight. But for now I need to leave.

>>2192765
Why the fuck would I go to America it's literally the worst country on earth right now

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>>2192776
Top kek

>>2192776
>Why the fuck would I go to America it's literally the worst country on earth right now
Westerns who don't know how good they have it are the worst people on the planet.
Anybody who says any western country is the "literal worst guys!1!!!!11!!" should be immediately deported to North Korea

>>2192787
He'd probably enjoy it until his propaganda value dropped. Then he'd see life for how it really is there and try to flee

>>2192743
For example?

>>2192716
>>2192698
>leftism turns out to be anti-establishment
Wow what a surprise!

>>2192600
Is that a Haggis?

>>2192610
He's a leftist, they all hate themselves and their country.

>>2192810
>>leftism turns out to be anti-establishment
>Wow what a surprise!
more that leftists are innately attracted to the weak, a subtle but more important distinction

>>2192776
You are a pretentious idiot.

>>2192532
>petitions for unlimited third world mass immigration and the "inclusion" of muslims
>nationalist

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>>2192743
It's not like any other countries are much different. You'll encounter crab bucket mentalities everywhere fella. Also you might be having difficulties getting yer views across because you sound like a thick cunt. Or you might just be so boring that nobody gives a fuck what you have to say.
t.Carlowman

>>2192787
>implying the USA doesn't quite literally have multiple pockets of third world poverty across the country

>>2192758
>Liberalism is right wing
WRONG

So /his/, are the UVF
/our guys/?

>>2192532
In Europe, Catalonia and Euskadi
In Latin America there are strong left nationalist parties

>>2193653
>implying any other nation also doesn't have pockets of shit
wew lad, you do know there's more to the US than just the rustbelt meme cities, right?

>>2192539
Dubliner here.

I was once like you. Hated the intellectually rotted societies and idealogues. Held disdain for the common and the rare. This was before I discovered that the it's extremely tame in it's consumerist values compared to many of the bigger Western countries incl. US, UK, France and Germany. Start looking towards the micro instead of the macro and you'll find Irish folk are truly a poetic people and the culture, urban and rural, is something to preserve, even for how much it's represented by people who don't truly understand the soul and essence. You should read some Oscar Wilde and James Joyce and you'll get what I mean and you'll rediscover your love for the obscure seals of the country.

>>2192787
This >>2193653
Ever been to West Virginia? It's where I grew up and god damn there wasn't a rich soul in the state. Best you'd get is middle class with most people of age in the house working or people risking their lives in the mines for relatively piss-poor pay with companies that dodge laws so that they don't have responsibility if a miner dies. Worst case you have people on the streets or starving out in the wilderness. On top of all of this, we'e been ravaged by addiction for the past five years. Democracy doesn't matter for shit for a starving man, and we have plenty.

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>>2193653
These pockets are however at large not "the worst" pockets. They are horrible, but never as bleak as an oldworld slum or the rural areas of dictatorships.

Getting born in a Trailerpark with an alkoholic dad and a methheadmother in america STILL gives you more chances to make something out of your life or enjoy a little bit of it then getting your clit sewn shut and be destined a slave in some sahelzone shithole, as a Shudra in the conservative parts of northindia or being a serv in best korea.

Superlatives are being used way too often by crybabys.

>>2193662
>Republican party
>Liberal
Maybe 10 years ago. They've become a far right nationalist party, a transformation cemented by Trump's victory.

>>2192550
>Not to denigrate the working class but I'm of the opinion that there needs to be a certain degree of emotional distance between the ruling class and the working class so that tough decisions can be made effectively..
Like fucking your kids?

>>2193673
Latin America is a reversal of the pattern in European countries. The right is globalist and concentrated in the cities, while the left is nationalist, populist, and have more strenght in the countryside.

>>2192609
Democrats are liberal in economics and social attitudes. Republicans are now protectionist and reactionary.

>>2192532
I never understood left-wing Irish nationalist.

They want to kick the British out, then invite in all Blacks and Arabs from Africa and the Middle East.

>>2193703
They've got common ground in the fact they have been repressed by larger powers for most their lives. Get them all drunk and they will integrate in a matter of time.

>>2193697
there is urban working class left and also traditional catholic right in the interior, Uruguay is the typical example

>>2193698
Democrats arent pro market economy, since the 2007 crisis they all went full socialist

>>2193653
It quite literally doesn't. You have no fucking idea what 'third world poverty' is if you think this remotely applies to any large number of people in America.
>>2193685
>On top of all of this, we'e been ravaged by addiction for the past five years.
The fact that appalachia is full of meth-heads proves the people there aren't actually poor, just morons who are bad at life.

>>2193687
Well put anon. The suffering of the western world's 'poor' is largely self-inflicted.

>>2193765
>It quite literally doesn't. You have no fucking idea what 'third world poverty' is if you think this remotely applies to any large number of people in America.
Don't care about your contrary opinion, it's of no value to me since I've been to these places and know people who have also. Your country is a shithole on both ends of the class spectrum.

>>2193765
We've been poor for most of our existence, the drug epidemic just comes from the poor education we get from poorly managed schools and out-of-date books, plus we had a lot of over-prescriptions of addictive drugs. The transition from pills to meth just happened because meth was cheaper, but meth ended up being much deadlier, so what was a dormant problem most didn't know about quickly turned into a massive problem for our already poor medical infrastructure.

>>2193715
cuckolded oirish detected

>>2193689
>Open Borders, free trade, neo-liberalism, globalism, internationalism
> far right nationalist party
Wew lad.

>>2193715
Actually the Arabs were a great power during several caliphs. Even afterwards they were hardly slouches. Likewise Blacks aren't a monolithic group. Some were regional powers, others weren't,

>>2193703

It's a choice thing.

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>>2192532
Fenians have always been conformists.

>>2192648
This.
Leftists nationalism almost always comes from minority peoples. Examples are non-English (Welsh, Scottish, Irish) nationalisms in the British Isles, Spanish minorities (Catalan and Basque) and Kurdish nationalism which competes with Turkish, Syrian, Iraqi and Iranian nationalism.

>>2192532

I'm an Irish nationalist and right wing so no, it's not all lefties. Ireland is for the gaels, no one else.

>>2193669

No fuck off