Does this put an end to the discussion? Japanese were primitive

Wew lad.
Firstly, Japs were notoriously bad at naval combat. Just look at their exchanges with Korea at the same time. They didn't know how to naval combat.

Secondly, there weapons were far from shit. Their swords were renowned in China for their quality and the firearms they were producing at the time were of European origin.

>they were savages
Savages don't develop economic theory, psychology, philosophy, war theory, and art. That is actually the exact opposite of being a savage.

Lastly, [citation fucking needed]

>>2191693
Bruh, if you bothered to read, they launched an attack on land where 600 japs attacked 40 spanish.

wokou pirates aren't samurai

>>2191723
They were rōnin tho, lordless samurai

>>2191668
Japs were shit and remained shit until they copied everything they could from the west, then they were less shit than other yellowmen, but still shitter than the west.

Nothing has changed since then.

>>2191734
>They were rōnin tho, lordless samurai
I hate to be that guy, but that claim is actually not sourced in the Spanish article so [citation needed]

Weebs BTFO

>>2191723
>wokou pirates aren't samurai
This. Wokou were mainly Chink larpers.

>>2191693
>Secondly, there weapons were far from shit. Their swords were renowned in China for their quality
So what. Some tribes in Americas could masturbate over obsidian clubs, and that doesn't make them far from shit.
And as for "armours", that's the total joke. They used butted mails. Fucking butted mails. If Japs somehow decided, that butted mail is viable armour, it tells about them a fucking lot.