Why isn't Leopold II more well known, people know Pol Pot

>>2187059
Because Leopold's existence doesn't fit in the easy narratives like
>oriental barbarism
>communism is evil

He was west european and had no grand ideology behind him, he was simply greedy and indifferent and did what everyone else was doing in Africa but without any pretenses. And worse, it was only possible because european powers handed Congo to him. It's something that cannot be conveniently explained away.

>>2187059
>people know Pol Pot better then Leopold
Citation needed.

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>>2187111

>>2187133
...Niggar pls.

>>2187095
Pol Pot had some fame because 'Nam and shit.

Leopold was pretty well known in the early 20th century. And communists who want a response to accusations of communist mass crimes always remember him too.

Like you.

>>2187133
Considering pol pot was active through the 1970s it makes sense more information would be available on him with a google search.

it makes sense that people remember someone more recent in history, with people still alive today that were there to remember the regime of the man, rather then someone who died before WWI

>>2187133

more gooks than waffles

>>2187176
This is a white genocide

>>2187059
Cambodia is still full of mines and other explosives, so you can pretty much expect losing a limb or two as a result of wandering away from established routes
On the other hand, you can live in belgium without the fear of your limbs being chopped off, like in belgian congo

>>2187059
His generiosity has been overshadowed by ridiculous claism like the one you are making. He is not similar to Pol Pot at all, and he never intentionally killed anyone in the Congo free state. Vile adminstrators and other bureucrats fucked Congo up, Leopold was a good man.

>>2187230
Yeah, he did nothing wrong.

>>2187176
This. OP is a retard.

>>2187230
>Vile adminstrators and other bureucrats fucked Congo up
Correct
> Leopold was a good man
Let's not get carried away

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>>2187230
>Intentionally

Well.. He didn't really do it with the aim of killing people. But he had no regard whatsoever for human rights. Death by exhaustion was just a side effect to that disregard.

Leopold II was a very bad man, but very good at what he did.

>>2187230
Pol Pot did not intended mass murder as well, all he wanted to do was to create a communist utopia.

>>2187341
Yeah, he did intentionally kill off everyone who wasn't a peasant.

>>2187325
>But he had no regard whatsoever for human rights.
A non-existent meme that no one had a concept of more than 60 years ago.

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>>2187358
The first human rights movement was raised internationally, to stop Leopolds cruel treatment of the natives.

If it didn't already exist, Leopold made it popular just by being such a massive asshole.

>>2187357
He didn't, it was vile adminstrators and other bureucrats who did it

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>>2187452
Leopold II was literally the all encompassing owner of the Congo free state, and as a result, is to blame for what his administrators did. That's how it works.

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>>2187059
I ain't sure why this guy doesn't get more attention. Maybe it's because people don't really talk much about colonial activities in Africa (at least not in America, but that may be because of the standard of "education" here). Also, you'd be surprised how many people haven't even heard of Pol Pot.

>Leopold is the communist equivalent of neo-nazis talking about Dresden to distract from the Holocaust

>>2187358
People obviously cared enough about humans to abolish slavery and promote the 40-hour workweek by then. Don't act like it was all a wash and everyone was equally bad, because you know that's not true.

Leopold was a good leader
>fights tooth and nail for years to get a colony for Belgium
>ends up acquiring land over 50x the size of the metropole, greatly enriching his country

A true belgian hero

>>2187544
He was a great leader, just a very bad person.

A bad man who was great at beign a man.

>>2187059
He's white and killed Africans

>>2187544
Congo wasn't a Belgian colony. It was literally the personal property of the Belgian king. The Belgian state had no right on the territory.

>>2187751
That was during his life. When he died it went to the Belgian state

>>2187544
he enriched himself (and his whore) and shamed his nation even in contrast to other colonial powers

>>2187755
and the belgian state stopped cutting hands off

Leopold II's handling of the Congo has its own paragraph or two in general world history chapters on European colonialism in Africa

>>2187460
you accept that obongo should be impeached for funding and creating ISIS, and the syrian and libyan instability then

>>2187059
Leopold II spread western civilization and culture to the Congo. Rather imperfectly, anyone would agree, but still. Pol Pot just killed people and called it communism.

>>2187195
can you live in Congo without the fear of your limbs being chopped off?

>>2187842
if you avoid nogs yeah

How can you collect rubber without hands? Isn't that kind of inefficient? Why didn't they just spank them or something.

>>2187847
how to avoid them in Congo?

>>2187835
yeah, Congo is great nowadays

>>2187824
That's a conspiracy theory, not a fact.

>>2187862
That can be attributed to lack of security in Africa which is in large part due to hasty decolonization.

If you want to blame evil whitey your argument would be stronger by pointing out colonials just wanted to leave and didn't pay back their debt by supporting the fledgling new states and helping them kill commies.

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>>2187861
put em in the ocean

>>2187867
ebin shitpost

>>2187059
it was a pretty big deal at the time but then ww1 started and the media made belgium into an innocent little butterfly that dindu nuffin

>>2187059
The lives he took had little values racially speaking

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>>2187886
>>>/pol/