Historically misconceptions that make you angry, ill start

>>2185773
>jesus is historical

>>2185773
>Christianity is a heresy of Judaism and not the other way around

>>2185773

>Mary was a real virgin and not a girl who did anal to be a technical virgin.

>>2185789
>Implying christianity predates judaism

>>2185789
This. People actually think Christianity came from rabbinical Judaism.

>>2185773
>Jesus wasn't a Jew

>>2185797
Christianity was a rival sect of Pharisaism, the progenitor of Judaism as we know it. So no, Judaism does not "predate" Christianity.

>>2185797
Not him, but modern rabinnical judaism is just as different from ancient Israelite faith as christianity is.

>>2185773
>Luther didn't work with the Jews in tell he felt slighted by them.

Pharisaism is older than Jesus Christ himself.

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>muh medieval setting
>bars
>barkeepers
>barmaids

I will run a dog over

>>2185837
>medieval setting
>perma grey sky, dead trees, you can hear a crow in the distance
>every street is made of mud and poop
>everybody had like three teeth at max for some reason
>[Gregorian chant starts playing]

>>2185813

As opposed to say, modern Christianities vs the sorts of Christianity that was practiced in the 1st century?

>>2185844
Yep. We all know that Islam is the worlds oldest religion since current day Christinaity was created in the 21th century.

>>2185844
Actually they are way similar because they at least have common doctrines and more or less the same scriptures.

>>2185797
They were both branch offs of Yawheism

>>2185852

I don't see any less of a difference between what the Ebionites believed vs a 21st century Baptist compared to a Second Temple Era Hebrew and a Rabbinic Jew.

>>2185813
A guy from the times of Joshua time travels to the modern age

>why the hell is there only two tribes left?
>why aren't you guys worshipping at mount Gerizim?
>why are you talking about the world ending?
>what the fuck is a Jerusalem?
>synagogue? what's that? and hanukkah?
>of course other gods exist you dumbass, but we only worship one
>what's with all this angelic and apocalyptic crap in your texts, where did you get that from?
>and a matter of fact why do you need a shitload of additional text explaining the original text lmao
>wait and where the fuck is the tabernacle?

>>2185887

A guy from circa 30 AD following Jesus around travels to the modern age

>Who the fuck let in all these greek guys?
>And what do they mean, they've 'fulfilled' the law so now they don't have to follow it?
>And Jesus is a God? But isn't God? And you have 3,000 different heresies over exactly how you parse it?
>Who made up this "Virgin birth" shit?
>Why are there two different versions of Jesus's genealogy?
>Wait, the world didn't end by now?
>Why can't our holy books tell the difference between Pharisees and Sadducees? Any idiot knows that.
>What's "original sin"?
>Why is the distinction between purity and command all muddled?
>Can you explain this trinity thing again? It didn't make sense the first two dozen times. Why do you think the big guy said something so bizarrely contradictory that you had literal centuries of bickering and murder over it?

>>2185773
>Jesus was a Jew
This is true though.

>>2185773
Jesus wasn't a Jew
10/10 b8

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>>2185789
>>2185799
>>2185810
>>2185813
Don't you anons read the Bible? Jesus FOLLOW Moses teaching:

Matthew 5:17:
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have NOT come to abolish them but to FULFILL them.

Matthew 19:16-17:
(16)And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
(17)And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.

>>2186056
Teaching of Moses =/= Judaism. Judaism is a fucktarded sect that arose from the Pharisees.

>>2185930
Jesus was WHITE and REDPILLED

>>2186056
Saul, Saul, why persecuteth thou me?

>>2186100
Who's Saul?

>>2185773
>Protestantism was justified.
>Jesus wasn't a jew.

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>>2186062
Regardless, the 10 commandments are the core teaching of Moses. Jesus said FOLLOW the commandments, but the Christians clearly doesn't do that.

>>2186133
Paul

>>2186139
Catholics aren't Christian

>>2186148
What makes you think Christians don't follow the 10 commandments?

>>2185852
Found my historical misconception

>>2186154
Wait......... Paul is Saul? Why did they change his name?

>>2186159
The first commandment:

"Thou shalt have no other God beside me"

The Christians have three gods, right? For all I know, Moses have only one God.

>>2186159
And also, the 'Gods' in the first commandment is plural of respect, not number.

It's the Jews culture to call someone respectable with plural, as a mean of respect.

>>2186148
>the 10 commandments are the core teaching of Moses.
No you idiot. The real core teachings of Moses are the rites of sacrifice, the construction of the Tabernacle, the teaching of the duties of the priestly class, and the observance of Passover. Moses and God flip their shit out and kills people only when people don't do those things. He barely even cares about the ten commandments, which are honestly just the first ten things on a random list of rules that people (mainly Christians) later decided were of key importance.


For everyone else in the thread:
Judaism has changed throughout the ages because it no longer has a place to properly make a sacrifice, making the priests and half the commandments basically useless.

Christianity has changed because it was a random cult with no clear doctrine that got Hellenized beyond recognition and somehow became the focal point of European politics for one and a half millennia, and has been continually altered to suit the needs of the times.

No religion is unchanging, but Judaism does represent a continuation of the older theological doctrine and ideology, and is a way more honest religion in terms of being self aware of the fact that religions are constantly changing.

Anyway, this whole thread triggers the shit out of me. Peace out.

>>2186198
Blast off Schlomo

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>>2186198
Anon... the 10 commandments is the biggest thing in the time of Moses. Moses said:

Deuteronomy 6:4:
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.

Jesus said:

Mark 12:28 :
One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?"

But yes, their(Jesus and Moses) religion are not the same as today religion.

>>2186344
Forgot to add:

Mark 12:29:
most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

>>2185837

Those are all perfectly valid medieval things

>>2185794
>>2185787
and people ask why we hate Jews

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>>2186467
>jews

>>2186535
t. Goldbergstein

>>2186173
Changed when he converted. Saul was one of the most zealous, by the book Jews of his age and went around slaughtering Christians.

>>2186543
I'm sorry, but do you have anything to back up your claim? I mean, Saul sounds a lot like Paul, so I'm leaning towards that the people mistranslated his name. Saul is Saul, we have no right to change people's name.

>>2186133
There's two Sauls in the Bible. The first king of Israel who angered God and got replaced by David, and Paul.

>>2186607
Oh, never knew that. Thanks bruh.

>>2186056
John 5:46
if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.

John 8:44
"You (Jews) are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

>>2186570
Are you saying that the name change is a mistranslation, and that Saul was never actually called Paul and it's a clerical error? There's a lot of scripture to support that they're the same person.

Poking around, it seems that Paul may have been the Roman version of his name, and as he brought Christianity to the Gentiles, became more closely associated to him than Saul with his conversion. So perhaps conversion wasn't the reason of the change, but is the reason he's more commonly referred to as Paul today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle#Names

>It has been popularly assumed that Saul's name was changed when he converted from Judaism to Christianity, but that is not the case.[5][20] His Jewish name was "Saul" (Hebrew: שָׁאוּל, Modern Sha'ul, Tiberian Šāʼûl; "asked for, prayed for, borrowed"), perhaps after the biblical King Saul, a fellow Benjamite and the first king of Israel. According to the Book of Acts, he inherited Roman citizenship from his father. As a Roman citizen, he also bore the Latin name of "Paul"—in biblical Greek: Παῦλος (Paulos),[21] and in Latin: Paulus.[22][Acts 16:37][22:25-28] It was quite usual for the Jews of that time to have two names, one Hebrew, the other Latin or Greek.[23][24][25]

Jesus, cant you retards use wikipedia.

>>2186570
>>2186673
For God's sake people do one fucking Google search.

http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/why-did-god-change-sauls-name-to-paul

>>2185947
Jesus was a Jew but converted when he founded his religion. Just as Buddha was a buddhist and Joseph Smith a mormon.

>>2186705
Anon... Jew is a race. You can't change your ethnicity. Besides, Jesus DOESN'T BRING ANY NEW TEACHING. See >>2186056.

I(Jesus) have NOT come to abolish them(teaching of Moses) but to FULFILL them.

>>2186643
The Jew's father was not Moses. But their ancestors. I heard somewhere that the Jews once killed 50 prophet in one day.

>>2185773
>Martin "Turks are better then the Pope" Luther

>>2186885
Right, so he was still ethnically jewish but not religiously so.

>>2186957
Anon, no. Jesus's teaching is the same as the teaching of Moses.

There's more kosher salt in this thread than in the Dead Sea.
>inb4 Christians are the false Jews, not modern """""jews"""""

>Napoleon was short

>>2186344
>Deuteronomy
The ten commandments are in exodus? What does this prove? What's with the Christian obsession with taking individual bible verses and believing they prove anything?

>of all goods commandments, which is the most important
They're asking which of the hundreds of commandments, not which of the ten random ones Christcucks decided were the only ones worth following.

>>2187421
Forgot to add, breaking the ten commandments does not carry the punishment of spiritual exclusion, unlike things like, for example not being cleaned after touching a dead body.

God being more willing to forgive some transgressions and not others leads me to believe that probably the ten commandments were less important.

>>2187421
>>2187429
...what are you trying to indicate? I read all of it, but what statement are you trying to make?

>>2186182
Trinity =/= Three Gods

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>>2187859
> Literally named trinity
> not three gods

>>2185851
Well, Islam is the world's oldest monotheistic religion

>>2186896
>Martin "Turks are better then the Pope" Luther
>mfw 2017 Gernamy

>>2186096
His mother was Jew => He is Jew

>>2188311
Jesus was an ethnically Hebrew Christian you twit.

>>2186446
No

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>>2185773
I guess the sign they placed over his head must have referred to the King of the Judaeans, a people of a multicultural melting pot as depicted in the History Channel's The Bible, with diverse backgrounds and ethnicities who for all we know could have looked like you or me.

>>2187987
Here http://pastebin.com/d4RUmABN

>>2189957
Damn, meant for >>2187859

>>2188327
Yes

>>2188315

Christianity didn't exist.....

>>2185773
Saying Jesus was a jew is like saying Washington was british.

>>2186535
>reposting Constantine
he's dead, let him stay dead