Why Liu Bei couldn't work with Cao Cao ? Both men had similar

>>2174298
You guys know Wu's to blame for this right?

>>2174320
Wu was a bunch of pirates taking advantage of the Yangtze to resist Wei. They had the political influence of a dead gerbil.

Liu Bei and CaoCao could have work together at several points in the story. They just choose not to.

>>2174298
>Both men had similar goals
Namely political and military supremacy over the middle kingdom under the pretense of being Han supporters.
Problem is, it's not a goal you can achieve while having equals.

Liu Bei blamed the chaos on self-interested people bucking the system like Cao Cao.

Cao Cao blamed the chaos on people stubbornly obeying the system rather than accepting political reality like Liu Bei.

Also ironically both would renege on their ideals. Cao Cao took advantage of the system and used the Emperor as a puppet. Liu Bei would declare himself Emperor despite being several generations removed from an Emperor and very unlikely to be the next in line.

Normies side with Liu Bei.

Fedoras side with Cao Cao.

Patricians realize Sun Quan makes more sense.

>>2174393
>Also ironically both would renege on their ideals. Cao Cao took advantage of the system and used the Emperor as a puppet
How is that reneging his own ideals? Puppeteering the emperor is the very definition of not blindly obeying the system and instead accept political reality.

>>2174393
>Sun Quan
> Fuck China, we Wu-solo now
Truly a god amongst humans...

>>2174427
Sun Quan didn't actually care as long as he was rich and powerful. When the best option was becoming a vassal of Wei, he took it. Honestly, had he just died a decade earlier, Wu could have managed to come out on top of the struggle.

Question: what really happens to Diaochan in the Romance (she never existed in History) ? I'm ashamed to say I have only read Sangokuchi and watch the Three Kingdoms show, in the first she immediatly suicide after her adoptive father plot worked, in the show she stick around and replace LuBu's daughter has the one to be saved during Xiapi siege.

Lubu's also killed by decapitation in the manga and by arrows in the show.

Which is closer to the original story ?

>>2174467
Diaochan either is executed together with her father or she escapes with Lu Bu after the coup (and afterwards she's abandoned after Lu Bu starts lusting after women), there are different versions.

Lu Bu gets hanged after Xiapi for being too unreliable and treacherous to risk having him join Cao's army.

>>2174500
>and afterwards she's abandoned after Lu Bu starts lusting after women
So much for the romance...

>>2174508
Kek it's a pretty common theme. Ancient epics aren't big on true love and fidelity.
Not on the man's part anyway.
Just look at Odysseus and Jason.

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>>2174393
>>2174427
>>2174461
>Patricians realize Sun Quan makes more sense.

Sun Quan the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJms1CGHjn8