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Give me an example of an historical figure in purple? Also

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Give me an example of an historical figure in purple?
Also post your results
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>>2135106
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Does this guy count or is it cheating? If yes then maybe Jefferson when he wasn't the president.
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>>2135106
This test is rigged, you get put in the green square every time unless you purposely make an effort to be a contrarian.
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>>2135106

Somalians
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>>2135134
I kinda found it wierd not being in red
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>>2135134
I got purple quite easily and my friend who's a bit more conservatice on social matters got blue. It's not that hard to get what you expect.
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>>2135106
>"In a three-dimensional world, where people hold two-dimensional opinions, politicians have a field day." - Kilroy
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>>2135163
How can you be consarvative and low on authoritarianism
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>>2135198
It's called fiscal conservatism. The red square is for hippies and the upper two for mainstream parties.
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>>2135223
>max on authoritarianism
>for hippies
Are you retarded?
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>>2135356
Oh shit I meant green square. Right.
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>>2135134
>>2135163
This. You're a leftist in denial, anon.
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>>2135106
Ron Paul
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>>2135106
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>>2135198
By fucking off and minding your own damn business is what
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>it's a "Congrats! You are Superior and Logical Libertarian, Please Donate to your Local Libertarians Party" Libertarian Square™ thread

Memes upon memes
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Pretty shite test, but it's not too far off.
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>>2135134
>>2135148

It's because you're a contrarian and only consider yourself those things to be a contrarian faggot, so when you take an actual test and put what you actually believe in it then you get an unexpected result.
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>>2135134
kek you're a leftist pretending you're not.
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>>2135134
Don't deny your leftism senpai
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I am not an ancap i swear
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>>2137120
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Social Democracy is the best.
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>>2135106
That's a horrible test. It's dreadfully shallow and some of the "questions" are literal proverbs. Someone post a better one.
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>>2137194

It was literally made by a libertarian group with the expressed purpose of "recruiting" people by making the majority of them think they were "libertarians"

It is the most successful piece of online propaganda ever.
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>>2135223
>It's called fiscal conservatism.
aka liberalism, my american friend

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism
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>>2136578
>By fucking off and minding your own damn business is what
you mean by being liberal
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>>2137273
Maybe a while ago that's what being liberal was but not anymore. That title has been taken by a much more toxic ideology.
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This is definitely a better test, even though I got the same place on the regular PC test. The questions are just more thorough.
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>>2135198
the best way to act is x but the government shouldnt be the one to tell you that
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>>2137288
Next time put a disclaimer that you are a New Worlder.

Not all of us use the babylon-tier American terminology.
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Did I do good, /his/?
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>>2137269
It's classical liberalism now. I have to use American terms.
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>>2135356
>>2135223
>>2135198
Red is for people who hate the gays and love welfare.

Green is for people that love gays and welfare.

Purple is for people that are indifferent towards gays and hate welfare.

Blue is for people that hate the gays and welfare.
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>>2137631
>Purple is for people that are indifferent towards gays and hate welfare.
That's me.
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>>2137194
>the "questions" are literal proverbs
That's the point you dip. The question is "how much do you agree with this proverb?"
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>>2137273
>you have to have bathrooms for a group of people who represent less than 3% of the population
>they were literally already using these bathrooms forever without anyone caring
>we must force the issue with litigation now

Let's just pretend that liberals don't use the government to enforce their own agendas and ideologies the same way literally everyone else does. Let's just pretend we live in this world where this shit doesn't happen every single day, for the sake of being argumentative faggots on the internet.
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>>2137946
>>you have to have bathrooms for a group of people who represent less than 3% of the population
If it's not too expensive, who cares
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Bill Clinton
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>>2137404
No, that's a terrible result.
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hey girls
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>>2138833
>>2137365
>>2137404
>>2138833

Plebs
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>>2138871
>progressive
What a shitty name.for communism.
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>>2138875
I'm not Communist though laddo
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>>2138879
All authoritarian left is communism.
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>>2138881
Right/Left is a spook
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>>2138888
Wew dem quads. Doesn't matter because you obviously support economic restriction and oppose criticism of your own ideology. To me, that's communism.
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I always think I'm a Strasserist and my principles always seem to fall in some clearly nationalist, but also clearly socialist bent, but whenever I take one of these quizzes I get some vaguely center-libertarian-left location. These tests need to be improved.
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>>2138890
So did Mussolini and he wasn't a communist
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>>2135106
Thomas Jefferson
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>>2138901
He was a socialist which is pretty close.
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>>2135163
That makes no sense, being more socially conservative would place you further right not further left
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>>2138903
Eh i think it's wrong to brand such a wide scale of beliefs as communism

The founding fathers also supported economic restriction (as long as it was theirs) and opposed criticism
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>>2138890
>I have an incredibly narrow minded view of a complex ideology but I'm gonna go ahead and pretend I know what I'm talking about
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>>2138907
Which is why I thank God everyday I don't live in the USA, with its retarded conservationism and religious views.

>>2138912
It really doesn't matter, "progressive" is still a dumb name for it.
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>>2138918
>It really doesn't matter, "progressive" is still a dumb name for it.
Communism is an even dumber name desu
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>>2138920
We can agree on something. I call it "communism" because "socialism" sounds fucking stupid.
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>all these retards on the green or red square
This confirms the fact that /his/ is full of college freshmen who just read Marx for the first time in their lives.
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>>2138942
>le epic enlightened redpilled commie-hater that sees the truth of human nature

It got old about 10 minutes after its inception laddie.
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>>2138963
Well communism and socialism really is an easy target. Being irredeemably horrible and all. Being a commie-hater shouldn't be strange to anyone. It's natural.
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Well gosh I'm boring
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>people are seriously in the quadrants i don't agree with

just kill yourselves famalams
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>>2139702
Absolutely
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Sadly, most of these sorts of tests tend to consider opposition to Capitalism as 'left wing'.
As such I often placed as a Communist, regardless of the fact that I'm a Technocrat.
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>>2140180
>technocrat
Get out commie
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>>2138881
lol
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>>2140180
Holy shit check out Stalin over here.
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>>2140592
Hilarious.

The only historical system of governance that Technocracy shares any real likeness with would be the Chinese Legalism practiced by the Qin.
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>>2140615
>The former government of the Soviet Union has been referred to as a technocracy.[19] Soviet leaders like Leonid Brezhnev often had a technical background in education; in 1986, 89% of Politburo members were engineers.[20]
>Leaders of the Communist Party of China are mostly professional engineers. The Five-year plans of the People's Republic of China have enabled them to plan ahead in a technocratic fashion to build projects such as the National Trunk Highway System, the China high-speed rail system, and the Three Gorges Dam.[30]
I'm like, LMao.
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>>2140626
Political leaders being scientists and engineers =/= Technocracy.
That much better describes the Veblenist idea of a 'Soviet of Engineers' then it does a Technocracy.
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>>2137404
I also was classified as a centrist, but I was slighly lower, and I was to the left of the vertical axis, while still touching it.

Don't listen to the radicals and ideologues. You most likely have reasonable, practical views that would draw wide support.
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>>2137120
We should meet up some time.

I'm guessing you didn't get -100 on culture because you weren't sure about abolishing the state?
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>>2137365
even Stalin would get "i am not a pedophile i am a pederast"
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I guess, but some of the questions don't have all realms of answer
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>>2137946
>Let's just pretend that liberals don't use the government to enforce their own agendas and ideologies the same way literally everyone else does. Let's just pretend we live in this world where this shit doesn't happen every single day, for the sake of being argumentative faggots on the internet.
let's just pretend we're not on a humanities forum where accurate terminology matters, but rather on facebook where broad-stroke tribal identifiers that are unique to America are more apt.
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There aren't many because Purple societies are way too susceptible to subversion. Most Libertarians eventually figure this out.
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>>2135134
Its because right wingers actually believe you should be oppressing people and all the other odd non freedom things in the test.
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Purple all day
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Okay, someone explain this to me.

Spekr seems to think that answering "strongly disagree" to this question makes you more authoritarian.
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>>2136886
LINK
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>>2143755
It does because you don't think the law should be flexible and with the added implication that it should be very strictly enforced.
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>>2143755
The observation of the laws passed never used to be a thing until cases like Roe v Wade or Brown started to essentially create legal rights and effectuate into law. Denying courts this special privilege certainly puts more power in the hands of the executive branch as regards law making
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>>2143837
What if I just oppose the capricious nature of twelve individuals gathered together to make law in this country?

>>2143851
More like puts it back in the legislative branch, where it belongs.
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>>2143889
>>2143837
Also, should mention, I don't think the law should be totally inflexible. There should be basic laws that have primacy over all other laws, and we should essentially build a hierarchy of laws. When a court finds that one law is in conflict with another, the one that has primacy should stay on the books, and the one that has conflicts should be resubmitted to congress for re-working.
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>>2143889
So your issue is you don't believe the 12 individuals have the authority to be capricious but the duly appointed ones do?

Well I see what you mean anon, that's clearly not authoritarian at all.
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>>2143899
I sense sarcasm, but I don't see why. It has to fall one way or the other, and you fall on the side of 12 randomly selected people? As opposed to several hundred elected officials?
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>>2143913
>but I don't see why
You are sitting there telling me the authority to bend the law should rest in the state and not your peers and are telling me that this stance isn't an authoritarian one.

Note I am not arguing in favor or against said stance merely commenting on your apparent inability to understand why it could be construed as authoritarian.

I.e. I find it funny.
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>>2135106
The US Constitution was pretty Lib-Right. So I suppose the man who wrote it and the people who signed it could be considered in there as well.
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>>2143935
No, I am arguing that no one should have the authority to bend the law. There should be no bending of the law. If a deficiency in the law is found, the law should be fixed.
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>>2143951
>There should be no bending of the law
Yeah, that's authoritarian.
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>>2143913
>you fall on the side of 12 randomly selected people? As opposed to several hundred elected officials?
>>2143951
>There should be no bending of the law

You are suggesting the elected officials should but regular folk shouldn't
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>>2143962
complete sentences, please. Shouldn't *what*?

>>2143955
>there should be clear codified laws that are easy to understand, and the consequences of your actions should be clearly laid out
>No one should be able to skirt the law, not even politicians
>what an authoritarian mindset
?
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>>2143951
>I am arguing that no one should have the authority to bend the law. There should be no bending of the law.
Exactly you are saying the law is the law is the law because the state says so, they have the authority. It should not be up to interpretation of peers and "regular folk" or even other lesser members of the state when or if the law should be applied in individual circumstances.

You are fundamentally saying authority, specifically of the state, is self evident and should be respected by everyone always. Do you see now how that can be taken as an authoritative stance?
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>>2143979
It's only authoritarianism as opposed to an anarchic mindset. Without that there is no state. There is no law. It means nothing. You have anarchy if you just allow "regular folk" to interpret laws. Everyone becomes judge, jury, and executioner unto themselves. People with more power dominate people with less power, etc. It leads to anarchy, which in turn leads to a more authoritarian world.
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>>2143955
You are literally the exact, polar opposite of correct.
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>>2143972
>there should be clear codified laws that are easy to understand
That's retarded though.

Language is about interpretation, nothing is ever 100% clear and there is always room for interpretation, always.

Just in this thread you have at least two people trying to explain why some other faggot could possibly maybe in some way see something as authoritarian and you just not fucking getting it at all.

All the while you're sitting there thinking:
>wow these people are idiots/insane
And they're thinking:
>wow this anon is a idiot/insane

And neither of you are able to explain to the other ones your viewpoint becayae the asshole that made the test never adequately explained (at least to that anon) Wtf he exactly meant with authoritarian.

Because language isn't fucking easy.
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>>2143990
>Without that there is no state. There is no law.
That's literally not true. The US is a perfect example of a country that has law and order and also has that exact system in place. Its just not an authoritarian shithole about everything (like you anon, you're an authoritarian shithole).
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>>2143995
Fuck off. No I'm not.
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>>2143990
That's....fucking stupid anon.
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>>2143990
>only the established power should ever interpret the law
>nvm that I already said they should change it if they find a flaw
>nvm that I also said no one should interpret anything
>nvm that by saying flaws could exist I admit the powers that be aren't perfect and thus could never make 100% clearly written impossible to misinterpret laws
>I'm not authoritarian guise
>honest
>you're all anarchists

You are silly.
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>>2143990
>what is the US judicial system
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This test makes fuck all sense. I can sort of understand my answers being authoritarian, which translates to me as just feeling strongly, but left? Maybe the meme buzzwords of left and right don't mean what I thought.
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>>2144098
no, anon. If you're left you're an SJW cockgoblin and if you're right you're a toxic chauvinistic racist shitlord. There's no nuance allowed in politics.

Serious answer: which specific questions turned you to each side? What did you pick that stood out?
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>>2144120
Not much. Most of them I felt like I went with agree or disagree. But if I had to boil it down, I don't trust corporations, but there is nothing wrong with businesses being about shareholder first. I don't much care about strangers sexual proclivities, but our society is more shallow than it once was. Politically, I'm pro choice, but in my personal life, I'm pro life. A pretty typical yankee liberal I guess in hindsight.
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>>2135106
This test is stupid, and this is proof of it

>I unironically think eugenics is a good idea
>I unironically hate transsexuals
And it says that I'm fucking left
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>>2144011
but it is possible to minimize ambiguity, and edge cases. you should strive to do this with the law so that you don't have to be constantly modifying it. And if it turns out you do have to modify it, then it shouldn't be done by a jury, it should be done by elected officials.
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When the fuck are we gonna accept that Anarcho-Communism is the future of society.
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>>2144193
>our society is more shallow
If you're talking about 'hook-up culture', then you've been fooled in the same way people think crime has gotten worse. You're only thinking society has gotten more shallow because you have greater exposure to it via the internet. Social survey data doesn't see a change in trends between now and 20 years ago (see http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224499.2014.906031?journalCode=hjsr20#.U2eo2K1dX2A), but the transmission of information has changed drastically.

For your views on corporations, I'd have to agree on some points (the test placed me as a libertarian capitalist). There's a few cases where the self-interest of a corporation may infringe on other's potential freedoms, but for the most part I think self interest can be trusted to fall in line with what we think is the public good.

I'm curious: what did you put down for the questions involving individual rights/guns/defense?
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>>2144205
Modifying the law isn't the question, applying it is and in the US the jury has the right to ignore the law in any given case. It works fine.
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>>2144221
Which questions specifically? I don't remember anything about gun ownership.
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Who /moderately libertarian centrist/ master race here?
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>>2144224
but in a common-law judicial system, doesn't that set a precedent, and therefore modify the law?
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>>2144202

>not understanding what left and right mean when authoritarian/libertarian are also an axis
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>>2144248
No
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>>2144253
pls explain.
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>>2144221
>Social survey data doesn't see a change in trends between now and 20 years ago
Different anon but I think people who complain about society becoming shallow are usually comparing it to more like 60 years ago.
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>>2144251
I'm still far right
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>>2144256
I'm no legal expert by any means but I believe the explanation of this current predicament can best be explained by: You don't understand the US judicial system as well as you think you do since this is totally a thing and does not establish precedent.
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>>2144241
There were a few questions about whether people had the right to self defense and the right to keep and bear arms, as well as general gun control. I think they're in the 30-40 question range for the test.
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>>2144256
Jury nullification.

Its called jury nullification
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>>2138983
capitalism killed more
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>>2144258
People who espouse the virtues of "the old days" being inherently cleaner or better are victims of rose tinted glasses, for the most part. You look at the 1950's and see "the golden age" in the same way you see 70's music as being led zeppelin and not the thousands of other absolute garbage bands out at the same time. There's a certain phase in time where the era is abstracted enough to seem idealized but not enough to be a bonafide relic of the past. People in the 50's probably felt the same way about the time before the wars.

This is just my opinion, though.
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>>2143842
switch purple quadrant with green quadrant and you've got an accurate analysis.
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>>2144275
Weird. Maybe I took some sort of mini quiz? I don't remember a single question about gun ownership, defense of private property and all that jazz.
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>>2144318
how many questions did you take before you stopped? There's 100 of them.
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>>2143585
>quadrantfagging when you're clearly a centrist
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>>2144323
Way less than that. Probably 25-30. What's the link? I thought it was political compass or some such.
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>>2143775
http://spekr.org/
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>>2144335
see
>>2144340

Follow it through until you complete every question. Don't look at the compass to the left because it might enter bias into your results.
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>>2144350
>Don't look at the compass to the left because it might enter bias into your results.
Yeah, why the fuck do they put that there? They should at least have the option to hide it.
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>>2135106
Inb4
>phoneposter
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How does it even make sense to disagree with this?
>should the government do something it shouldn't do?
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>>2144393
It's phrased terribly. I guess the question is whether or not "Classified" information is public or not.
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>pick the intelligent answer to every question
>liberal
really makes you think
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>>2144283
l m a o
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>Liberals
>Left wing
Lol @ that test
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>>2141109
Something like that as well as some environmental protections.
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>>2144529
>pick the correct answer to every question
>libertarian capitalist

really stimulates those almonds
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>>2139006
Or maybe conservative positions are a caricature of themselves when presented straight and without emotional context of being "against those liberals".
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>>2144556
>What's good for multinational corporations is good for the rest of humanity
S T I M U L A T I N G A L M O N D S
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>>2135106
>Libertarian Capitalist
Feels good to be on the right side of history
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>>2135106
>Pick the correct answer to every question
>Moderate conservative
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S P E C I A L S N O W F L A K E
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>>2135106
seems relatively accurate but I consider myself a bit more socially conservative than that is letting on.
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>>2144202
>being left means only these 2 social issues
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Most based coming through
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>>2143951
It's not bending the law or defying the rule of law if the law stipulates it's permissible for people to do this in the first place
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>>2138890
>To me, that's communism
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>>2135106

This thing puts me in the left lower quadrant (although very slightly so) even though I've been called a fascist racist bigot reactionary so many times I've lost count.

I guess it's because I don't agree with uber-free marketism
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>>2144469
>liberal
>opposes deregulation
Can there be one politik test that isn't made by a burger?
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>>2141109
>>2137120
Are either of you actually Georgists? I'm a Georgist but there aren't many of us left
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>>2145016
There is not a single person on this fucking planet that would call me a leftist
Hell, the last test I took I was far right
It's like the Meyers-Briggs Personality Test, it changes completely if you wait a week inbetween test takings

Look at this shit, it's entirely opposite
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>>2135134
This

I'm admittedly statist as fuck and because I'm okay with gay people and think pot should be legal I always end up in the green

Americans are obsessed with Anarchy and this test is made by an American who wants people to see themselves as anarchists.
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>>2135106
Middlefag here
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>>2135106
Is this a meme ideology?
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>>2135106
>political compass thread
More evidence /his/ has basically turned in /pol/-lite.

Kys, faggot. And go back to your containment board.
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Anybody that takes this dogshit test is a retard and should be banned to either leftypol or /pol/
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>>2146754
I like political discussion, but this test is actual trash and I really am sick of seeing it on this site.
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>>2137365
Nah, this test is bullshit. I got 17, 49, and it called me a "Progressive".
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Every time I do one of these tests, I move further towards the bottom-right section.
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>there are people in /his/ who seriously think there are things that don't infringe on other's rights but should still be illegal

if you aren't in my quadrant you're as good as dead. watch yourselves.
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KO? KOSTUNICA!
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Seems close enough I guess.
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>>2146260
>slightly to the left
ruined
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Statecucks please leave
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>>2135168
What would a three dimensional political chart look like?
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>>2135134
I answered the test completly honest. What does it tell about me then?
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>>2151747
Im entp and green
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>>2137273
Why do you have such autism we get to dude
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>>2151795
You need to rethink everything
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>>2151747
Intp purple here
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>>2151747
You are Trotsky
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>>2138890
>Responding to criticism is "opposing" it

I hate people like you.
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>>2151747
Get spekd at http://spekr.org
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>>2151953
Are you fucking retarded? Opposing something is not the same as responding to it.
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>>2151953
Plus it literally says right in the pic that the dude opposes criticism. Please learn to lurk better or read the thread. Moron.
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>>2137365
hey
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The american founding fathers
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