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>have supply/resource problems the whole war >decide to

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>have supply/resource problems the whole war
>decide to build a machine gun that uses 1200 rounds/minute

Were the Germans retarded? Why not just stick with the MG-34?
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>>2130510
>Germans retarded

Answered your own question
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bullets aren't all that resource intensive
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>>2130510
>Why not just stick with the MG-34?
Because the MG-34 was expensive and complicated to produce. The MG-42 was developed as a stamped variant of it that could be mass produced easier, and its much higher ROF was a happy coincidence that they didn't plan on.

Gunners only ever fired bursts anyways.
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>implying they had problems with supplying bullets

German infantrymen became glorified MG ammo carriers by 1944.
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Also

>saying the MG-42 was retarded
>when the Panther existed
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>>2130537
Lindy pls
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>be perfectly capable of mass producing semi-automatic rifles and machine guns
>dude let's equip most of our troops with shitty ww1 boltactions

I suppose it doesn't matter that much if your main thing is killing women and children.
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>>2130510
When Russians send thousands at you, you need to be able to kill them in a fast manner.
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>>2130550
>Le Panther 1947
you have to go back
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>>2130633
The shortcomings of Red Army equipment are well documented vatnik.
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>>2130633
But everbody did this except the USA

They thought giving every grunt a semi/automatic weapon would just cause them to waste ammo
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>>2130665
But the French took possession of almost the whole fleet.
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>>2130510
The MG42 was not a bad design. It's nothing compared to some of their retarded tank designs. Bullets are easy to produce.

>Maus
>P.1000 Ratte
>P. 1500 Monster
Some of their designers were really off their heads. Hitler included.
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>>2130510
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N6xLMUifbxQ
26:10, dude goes into detail about german tank production, point being ther German's didn't as much have scarce ressources as they failed to utilize what they had effectively. Ammo was not a problem.
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>>2130510
They weren't advanced enough to produce the Bren Gun
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>>2130978
>that german manufacturing autism
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>>2130992
This. If they used a Bren they would have won every single battle like the British did
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>>2130978
Germans and their tardiness again.
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>>2130510
rounds have never been a problem for a country save for maybe the confederacy or russia
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>>2130535
C O C O N U T G U N
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>>2131234
They did use it tho. Still couldn't save them from their tardiness and they lost anyway lol
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>>2130550
>thats because the french are stupid
>i swear my 716 is the most reliable thing in the world
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>>2131303
Italy? Considering they had to ditch the attempt to switch service rifles they were in the middle of doing at the start of the war.
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sherman was the best tank of ww2.

why?

>because it was roomy enough that you could easily get out of it when it caught fire.
>because it was reliably built by capable american labor and not teenagers or slaves.
>because it was fast enough, light enough, cheap enough to produce and move in necessary quantities.
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>>2131834
>can also be redesigned to fit large calibre guns
>could fit practically any allied gun in service providing the turret was adjusted for it
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>>2130550

They nitpicked a captured German tank built in wartime conditions in order to motivate the government into restarting their tank production programs.
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>>2130723

The only one that was approved was Maus. Speer scrapped the other two before they got off the ground and told the Kreigmarine officer to stop trying to push the fucking land battleship concept..
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>>2131928
Imagine if they'd actually done it.
>the absolute madmen.

we'd probably just see the chassis either scrapped or used as a Bagger 288-type giant-digging-machine
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>>2130633
>perfectly capable
not really. The SVT was a temperamental rifle and complicated to operate and assemble by Soviet standards. It ain't good for a conscript army of peasants.
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>>2130510
SPANDAU
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>>2132466
Imagine trying to fit it into a museum.
>pull over into attraction on highway
>new museum opening
>guy dressed in wehrmacht uniform with a massive grin on his face at the entrance
>buy a ticket
>walk out into this field, with a visible drop into a hole
>walk to the edge, stairs, then-
>holy fuck
>tank as tall as a fucking T-Rex and as large as a fucking cruiser sitting in this massive former quarry
>people standing on it look like twigs
>worth the 50 dollars
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>>2131234
As someone whom otherwise likes Lindybeige, that video was bullshit of the highest degree.
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>>2130681
And it has been shown forever after that individual rifle marksmanship like the US espoused was proven to be ineffective and only corrected sometime around/after Vietnam
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>>2131921
>defending the Panther final drive
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>>2132612

I wouldn't say I was defending it, just that the French were using whatever excuse they could find to get back into the tank making business after the French Government was humdrumming on about remilitarization. The Drive of the Panther was not a work of art, but it was being built in air raids and by slave labour. What do you expect?

The environment in which production takes place is as important as the design. The Allies didn't have the production pressure the Axis had on them
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>>2131834
>sneeze on the sherman
>spit actually penetrates through the cardboard "armor"
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>>2130510
Each unit was 25% cheaper than the MG34 and the sound it produced scared Allied troops so much the Americans nicknaned it 'Hitlers Buzzsaw'.
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>>2130510
There was nothing wrong with MG-42, it was way cheaper to produce than MG-34 and the high fire rate was intentional. German infrantry squads were centered around the machine gun and the fire rate was made that high so it could create a field of fire that infrantry could not run thru. Producing regular rifle ammo was not a problem for the germans, they had much bigger problem suplying the 7.92 kurz for the STG's
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>>2131829
Any country that tries to switch to a service rifle that features another round is going to have supply problems. Japan had the same issue. The U.S. also had a slight clusterfuck with it in the early days of Vietnam.
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>>2132466
1 PLANE
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also don't forget le bad supply line man
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>>2132670
>the French were using whatever excuse they could find to get back into the tank making business
The French would've gotten back into the tank making business whether the Panther was good or not.
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>>2130632

t.Spandau fanboy
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>>2132597

got any reports on that,would be interesting.
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>>2132519
>As someone whom otherwise likes Lindybeige
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>>2130510
Is that the Spandau? I heard it's a terrible machine gun. Now the British, they knew how to build guns.
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>>2130510

šarac is the basest machinegun ever made
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>>2130992
I know you are memeing

but the funny thing is, they literally did use Brens
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>>2134013
>mfw Lindy doesn't know the Bren was a Czech design
>mfw both of Britain's major machine guns in WW2 were designed initially by Brno
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>>2131738
That's not a Bren.
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>Hitler didn't listen to his generals
>made stupid design choices like the Stahlhem (although it is aesthetic)
>employed dumb people like Goring and Eichmann
>Allied with Japan
What else was holding the Nazis back from winning?
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>>2134070
Also the Final Solution was a huge waste of time, money, resources and men.
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>>2130535
>>2132926
This. The Germans realized that the machine gun was primarily what won infantry battles, and in German squads the riflemen were there to support the machine gunner instead of the other way around, like in American squads. The German gruppe was centered around the machine gun and it was devastatingly effective. The MG-42 is a very good machine gun, there's a reason it's still in use today. Or rather slight variations of it.
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>>2134034
by the same logic, this is not a Mauser
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>>2134070
What's wrong with the stahlhelm?
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>>2134550
Nothing. That guy is probably a retarded anglo that thinks the brodie is a perfect design
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>>2134034
Indeed, Its only BR
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>>2130550
so the final drive had a life expectancy longer than that of a mid war T-34 engine and T-34 is a good tank while Panther is bad?
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