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Why do so many religions have conservative views on women's

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Why do so many religions have conservative views on women's role in the world?

Have there ever been any major religions that emphasized equality or female supremacy?
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Because religion is a product of society in which it develops. All those societies were conservative/patriarchal
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>>2125135
this, it's not that difficult to figure out yourself anon. It's just that religion itslelf has no place nor function in societies that have advanced to the point where one's sex has little to no impact on how much and with what they can contribute to society.
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>>2125118
Religions spread by the sword. Women don't make for great swordwielders.
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>>2125135
Pretty much.

Popular religions usually arise from a desire to reform society into some idealised form, and most complex societies saw ideal women as submissive, dependent, and in the background.
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>>2125118
Catharism mostly believed in gender equality (though not in all cases). It primarily came from the belief of reincarnation and the soul being genderless.
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>>2125416
retarded answer

>>2125118
most religions appropriate aspects of culture in the same region, so for islam the veil for women was used first in the region(and i believe that specific practice might have actually started in the hellenic world)
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>>2125118
Religion attempts at creating guidelines for society. Religion and the rules of religion are expressions of the norms established in the darkest recesses of our primeval past, and though one can attempt to justify them by reason and rationality they are divorced from it and their source is something darker.

The conservative view on women is likely because of what one sees more often: a divided society where the divisions and definitions are clear, understood, and accepted by everybody is the one that functions the best, and the orderly nature of it is what creates freedom in many cases. When women have expressed roles it helps make sure that there is no conflict, as conflict can easily become violent and violence is the enemy of civilization.
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>>2125118
Men and women are not equal, something obvious to the most primitive people to the most advanced. any religion which would have emphases equality would have instantly been laughed out the room.
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But Early Christianity was hugely popular with the poor and women. In the Gospels Christ preaches equally to women as he does men.

There were nunneries where women could learn and write, and it's from them we get almost all written records from women in Europe.

>But it's conservative by my incredibly liberal modern view of gender roles
>How could these people of yesterday act like this, it's almost like they didn't have the extra 1000 years of cultural development I do
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>>2125118
Pandering to women was how Christians got a foothold in Scandinavia
>Hey I've some good news, if you suck it up to my God he'll make sure you go to heaven, while the old ones will doom you to Hell because you won't be dying in glorious battle because you're at home while Jens Thorcock is out dying in battle and having a glorious afterlife in Valhalla!
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There were. They fell.
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>>2125693
But women who die in childbirth get a free pass to Folkvangir and get special access to Thor's place.
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Ancient fertility cults and the Minoan religion seem to have been focused mainly on Goddesses.

In the Eastern Mediterranean to be exact, there seems to have been a shift towards patriarchal religions near the end of the Bronze Age.
Mycenaean Greece for example switched from female deities to male ones but some Goddesses were too popular to be forgotten. The classical pantheon that came after that, still had those deities. (Athena, Artemis, Hera as well as titanesses and other female spirits) In the east as well, in the Hindu religion and in Shinto as well as other animistic religions, goddesses still exist and some are powerful (Amaterasu for example)

tl:dr There was a shift from matriarchal fertility religions to patriarchal ones during the bronze age also goddesses still exist in some religions today.
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>>2125118
Atheism
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>>2125758
The Minoans were Matriarchal to a fault is likely a meme.

There was probably an Earth Goddess and a Sea God, associated with the Bull. The Minoans loved the fucking Bull, the most Masculine symbol there is.

Consider the myth of Minos.
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>>2125760
>The religion of Beta Virgins
>Female Equality

Have you seen /r9k/?
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>>2125135
>All those societies were conservative/patriarchal

Except Sweden
Swedish religion when?
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Alevism believes in female equality but still subjected to tribal values


Basically the only reason religion does not harp on the equality of sexes is due to the customs of the land it originates in, not to the doctrines of the said religion
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>>2125118
>Have there ever been any major religions that emphasized equality or female supremacy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism
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>>2125880
it's not really major, but it did exist
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>>2125118

There is neither male nor female in Christ Jesus; all are the same. Neither poor nor rich, free nor slave, Jew nor Greek. All are one.

Christianity.

Who did Jesus first tell he was the Messiah? A woman.

Who did Jesus defend at a dinner party? A prostitute.

Who did Jesus appear to first after the resurrection? A woman.

What do you never see in the bible? A woman's prayer going unanswered.

The one who made us sees us the same. The one who made us fit together and become one in holy matrimony.
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In matriarchal societies women have multiple husband's and in general there is alot more polyamory. You can't really break out of tribal living when your society is arranged that way, so no religion which has the emphasis you're speaking about ever really caught on except in the tribe/cultural arrangement it originated in.

Although I would say that Catholicism/Orthodoxy generally think women are more sacred than men because they have the ability to bring new life into the world. This is why women veil themselves, and why you see in some more traditional churches the practice of veiling the tabernacle.
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>>2125679
And early Islam saw women in the battlefields, casually walking up to talk with Muhammad, and sharing the same prayer spaces as men. Later on you could find lots of women Islamic scholars, but just like with nuns there was now a distinct separation and subjugation of women in society.

As the times and demographics change, so does a religion.
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>>2125416
Women are usually the ones who preserve cultures and traditions more.
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>>2125909
And?

Christianity has only gotten more open to women as time and society has gone on.

Orthodox is like the only one that legitimately values tradition
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