The average person was better off before industrialization

go back inna woods and revert to hunting and gathering then

Protip: you literally won't :^)

life is still better if we maintain the illusion

>>2115675
define "average person", "better off", "the world" and "nightmarish hellscape" and we can have a discussion.

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>>2115675
Most arguments necessitate some kind of evidence or collaborating premises before diving straight into a conclusion.

>>2115699
>>2115700
>>2115708
>>2115723
Not an argument

>>2115699
the "woods" in any given first-world country are almost always privately owned and you can't legally live in them or use their resources for any length of time without incurring legal heat

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>world is literally amazing
>you can be anywhere in the world in within a day
>see all the sights and have information about everything immediately at your fingers
>most peaceful time in history, where advanced healthcare is available if you get hurt or sick pretty much anywhere

The world only sucks if you are afraid to leave your small town/basement

>>2116395
Only a fraction of the human population has enough capital to do such things

>>2116410

1/7 is indeed a fraction

>>2115675
>no medicine, you dead
>no healthcare, you dead
>no pensions, just die you're a liability
>no electricity, go to sleep or use a candle
>work is much more exhausting
>you'll probably never go out go more than 100km from your home unless you are a merchant, or get conscripted into the army

Really the only downsides to modern life are
>too much free time, leading to procrastination and introspection
>information overload, way too much shit spilling in from the media/tv
>freedom of marriage, it's a different game for finding mates

>>2116410
Considering you have both the time to browse /his/, and presumably the disposable income to own an Internet-capable device, as well as an internet connection, you and I both are a part of that "fraction."

P.S. 1/1 is a fraction.

>>2116410
The estimated population of internet users is 40% of all people.
Most basic healthcare is available around the world, even in the not industrialized 3rd world by WHO and charities.
You can still travel 10 times as much even if you're poor.

>>2116379
Have you ever been outside of USA?

>>2116465
You probably aren't even aware of how much of the wilderness around you is privately owned. It's arguably worse in Europe since there is even less undeveloped land.

>>2116486
Yep.

On the other hand you can buy a few hectares of land in the middle of the forest for a ridiculously low sum, especially if it has no road access. You can literally just sell your shitphone and have enough to buy the land you want to live on.

>>2116379
t.American

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>>2116486

>mfw LEast Coasters complaining that they don't have any public wilderness

Never gets old, enjoy your parks and battlefields though