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Can we discuss the historical misconception of the Asian "human

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Can we discuss the historical misconception of the Asian "human wave" attacks that you see regurgitated in any WWII/Korea/Nam discussion that is even prevalent in the mainstream media
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>>2110794
Well in the korean war it wasnt really a meme. Furthermore the PVA was merely applying tactics it had learned from the soviets (and ironically) from the German instructors who taught squad level infantry tactics prior to 1941.

It was also hugely successful in part due to UN underestimation (dude chinese people cant fight LMAO).

The problem is that the tactical considerations which made it successful were portrayed as the political superiority of the People's War thanks to Mao and his autism.

So when you get to the Sino Vietnamese war the PLA is still using these outdated concepts to fight the NVA in a very different sphere of operations and they were far less successful.

In WW2 the reason for the human wave meme was because

1) Japan didnt have the resources to make combined arms warfare work
2) Insofar as the Chinese theatre the above was compounded by inland China having almost no infrastructure so to speak and making it very difficult to conduct operations out of

For the chinese

1) almost not industrial capability so to speak, even their small arms werent uniform and a logistical nightmare
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>>2110824
By work i mean compare all the tanks and you'll find the Japanese ones were by far and away the shittiest
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>>2110824

But you are still repeating the false meme. No one accuses Germany of utilizing "human wave" tactics for storm troopers during WWI yet misunderstanding basic shock trooper tactics and dehumanization propaganda is why people still believe this nonsense
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>>2110856
Well the problem is /pol/tards and not the tactics themselves. You see the same meme about soviets and their casualties on the eastern front, as if that takes away from their victories over the wehrmacht.

The point is there's nothing inherently wrong with human wave tactics, theyre more a product of strategic limitations than anything else.
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>>2110889

But it isn't "human wave" it shock infantry. Now what can be said is that while these tactics are effective against colonial occupation forces or foes that lack a dedicated army, it isn't as effective when the opponent has an effective artillery shield or air support
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