Which one /his/? Historically, which one (authoritarianism or

>>2096372
Libertarianism, much like communism, has never been successful in a large society and never will be

>>2096391
USA? It worked pretty good before the multiculturalism and egalitarianism of the 60s. Some could argue that it was the libertarianism that allowed those things to take root, though.

>>2096402
America was never libertarian. Somalia is the only libertarian country on the planet

both in the right places

>>2096402
The USA immediately made themselves more authoritarian with the Constitution after the Articles of Confederation failed miserably and has continued to become more and more authoritarian as our power has increased.

>>2096372
>Libertarianism

Can someone explain to me why did Americans turned Liberalism into this silly tongue twister?

>>2096372
Authoritarianism for sub 90 IQ plebs Libertarianism might work out in the long run if we have an average IQ of say 115 but for now middle routes would be better.

>>2096444
In America liberal means left wing statist
They misuse the word

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>>2096421
Libertarian≠ancap m8. The federal government rarely meddles with social issues unless it's more to the libertarian side. Nobody forces anything on you though, save for modern day (((progressives))).

You can kill your fucking children in America.
>>2096425
>more and more authoritarian
how so?
>>2096436
Pic related, definitions change a lot
>>2096444
Basically any society except communism functions with an armed and racially homogenous high IQ population
>>2096447
This too

>>2096444
>too dumb to realize that the core reason why liberalism fails is because the smartest people just exploit everything they can
Oh but yeah, if everyone is exploiting everyone else it's bound to work out right? Lel

what do you mark as success?
In say 150 years when the white race is misceginated out of existence in a sea of shit coffee colored cancer, genetic engineering is warping humanity into some disgusting deformed abberation and the norm becomes fat disgusting degenerates relying on machines to survive and humanity is basically totally extinct and overshadowed by a mechanization until humans are extinct totally and machines take over and we end up with some sick perversion of the world left that defies are comprehension. That's what the market produces, you'll have to define "success", economic "success", cultural "success"???
Is it not better if there are greater causes worth bloodshed, worth suffering for. Aren't these things better if done for a noble end.
How could you be anything but a nihilist and believe in mere human freedom for its own sake. If we accept that there is a natural order, a hierarchy and an objective reality we must accept that some form of coercion is preferable. People are followers, they want to follow. The idea of freedom is flawed, if left to their own devices they will be led by the worst.

>>2096436
It was anarchists, actually. The word libertarian comes from their use in publications in areas where anarchist publications were suppressed by the state; libertarian distinguished them from liberal. The term was then appropriated from the anti-capitalist anarchists by American anarcho-capitalists, and then became associated with the brand of classic liberalism we see of what we would call Libertarians now.

>>2096421
what about hong kong

>>2096450
The US has become more and more authoritarian in its ability to interfere in personal and political matters around the world not to mention the powers of the president have only expanded since the US gained independence. Executive actions have gotten increasingly complex and more overreaching. The Supreme Court has also become more of a political force in determining what laws are acceptable and unacceptable.

>>2096455
>If everyone doesn't own everything is oppression

>>2096391
hong kong

>>2096476
I'm talking about the never ending series of free rider problems, exploiting people who are unlucky, and fabricating ways of forcing people to buy solely from yourself. I'm not a communist, but I'm also not a retard.