When did 'France' come to be? When was it established

>>2089681
France is basically just West Francia which was a successor state of Francia which unlike East Francia didn't break down into a clusterfuck known as the >Holy >Roman >Empire or Lotharingia which got annexed by both.

When God turned His back on the world.

>>2089681
France exist since Clovis which mean 5th century A.D.

>>2089731
>France exist since Clovis which mean 5th century A.D.

Wrong. Frankish lands at the time were in what is now the border area. It took a few centuries before a single French polity could be created.

>>2089739
If Prussia was an army with a state, france is a state with a nation, french history begin with clovis in the same way that ERE history begin with Rome.

>>2089739
What are you talking about ?

Franks became sedentarious after Clovis and inhabited Gaul, it is obvious that France started with him.

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>>2089726
perfect comment

>>2090020
wtf Giannino

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France exists...

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..because Germans were bad at war for centuries

>>2090119
my poor Byzantines

>>2089681
>When did 'France' come to be?
After the Treaty of Verdun in 843 BC, when the western part of Francia was given to Karl the Bald