Thoughts on new Nolan Dunkirk kino? https://www.youtube.com/

>>2089201
I'm fuckin' pyched

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>britbong
>sad because they will never get a high budget hollywood film made about us in WWII because the American market is so much bigger
>wait they are making one!
>Is it battle of britain? d-day? el alamein?
>no it is about the embarrassing retreat at dunkirk ahah only americans get to be heroes in high budget films
>mfw

>tfw the french are not mentioned once in the movie

>>2089210
That'd be obscene

>>2089209
>french
>even sadder because our role battle in which he entertained the slightest bit of revelance is taken from us by brits
Know that feel all too well Albion.

>>2089222
The French get what they deserve. Maybe you shouldn't have spent a month running from the enemy at break neck speed and people might give a shit when you fight for once.

>>2089230
>Maybe you shouldn't have spent a month running from the enemy at break neck speed and people might give a shit when you fight for once.
How precisely where the soldiers of British Expeditionary force differing from the French under that criteria, other that their retreat preceded that of the French?
Come on, barely any of our two countries can feign having eclipsed the other in terms of courage throughout the battle of France.

>>2089230
>LOL FUKKIN SURRENDER MONKEYS LOL FROGS LOL BAGUETTE LOL LOL LOL HUE HUE HUE KEK KEK KEK HURR FUKKIN DURR

Thank you for your insightful and thoughtful post anon. That's a real asset and a quality contribution to /his/. You should be really proud of yourself for being such an intelligent contributor to this forum.

You had me at Kenneth Branagh.

>>2089210
>>2089220
Well, I didn't see a French soldier in the intro. PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL FIGHTING, RIGHT ? He will surely mention it. It's no problem, Pierre. You've got no history, they make the history. Fucking pieces of shit I'm pissed.

>>2089238
The British Army was tiny in comparison. The French that fought and won WW1 was gone. It was actually just embarrassing and should be remembered that way. Even Poland which didn't have close to the production or man power fought on 2 fronts with 0 aid till the bitter end.

>>2089210
>>2089220
>>2089222
>>2089230

English perfidy really does know no bounds. Anglos are worse than jews.

>Congratulations, Briten, you've got yourselves caught. What's the next step of your anglo plan?
>Escaping this beach...with no french survivors

>>2089209

Dunkirk isn't a embarrassment because people on 4chan say it is.

Dunkirk allowed the UK to still have an army and most important this mean NOT SURRENDERING TO THE GERMANS

Dunkirk was the reason the UK could keep fighting.

The battle of Britain made Hitler know that an invasion of Britain would've been impossible and if Dunkirk had failed; a British invasion of North Africa and eventually Europe would've been impossible.

>there will never be a high budget film on the battle of the bulge

Fuck Nolan, he wasted a great chance.

Do the French realise how pathetic and aggravating you come across on /his/?

>m-muh everything is an Anglo conspiracy to keep the noble Frenchman down!

>>2089288
Daily reminder the Brits fled the BoF before the French dropped the guns. And I'm not talking about Dunkirk, but before it.

>>2089288
>The British Army was tiny in comparison.
Numbered at approximtely 13 divisions though.
And how do the size of the British army, whether small or large, acquit them of the fact that they became as cowardly as the French army, if not more considering that they retreated earlier than the French did.

>>2089373
I agree it might be overblown in this thread, but could you not concede that you'd be exasperated too if this year's monuments of historical fiction utterly and irremediably spit on the image of France (BF1 and Dunkirk), and worked to the perpetuation of the "surrender" meme, of which the British are spared when they fought as poorly.

>>2089355
Dunkirk isn't a embarrassment because 1943 propaganda needed to make young poor lads sign up in an army they could believe in.
Before that, the French were the heroes of Dunkirk.

>>2089373
Well anglo propaganda is a thing, most brits and americans really don't want to aknowledge how great french history and culture is/was.

t. half english-half french who lived in both countries

>>2089448
Let's blow up english WWI cemeteries.

>>2089457
I mean let's propose that measure to Melenchon and watch him win.

>>2089457
Let's not?

>>2089455
>half english-half french
Was it un père français qui déroba aux anglois l'une de leurs femmes, or was it an english father that stole from the french one of their women?

In other words, who was it that was cucked in the dealing that was your birth.

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>>2089201
That was a pretty sweet trailer. I'm psyched as all hell.

>>2089209
Cheer up you git, it's going to be one of those "triumph of the human spirit" deals. Those are always better than your bog-standard WW2 action flick.

"Battle of Britain" was pure kino that will be topped anyway and you know it.

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>>2089201
>number of French soldiers shown: none (0)
Why am I not surprised?

>>2089478

Mon père est anglais mais je me sens français, j'abhorre la mentalité britannique.

>>2089466
Okay, let's do it officially. Let's warn we will remove one WWI English soldier sepulture for every theatre entry this movie makes if that's really going to be as in the trailer: a theft. And do it.

>>2089448
You can't blame the retreat of a the BEF on the collapse of all of France. In WW1 they were left out to dry multiple times by France.

France just flat didn't want it. 360,000 dead for a country like France to just give up is a disgrace to the dead. DESU we should have just told Germany they could have all of France and we maybe could end the war. French leadership was incompetent as always and the men have no fighting spirit its no wonder why they are so cucked today.

>>2089493
>j'abhorre la mentalité britannique.
Rooh, ne laisse pas déborder ta haine contre eux jusqu'à que tu deviennes un traître à l'un de tes pays. C'est le mal ça!
Autrement, j'opinerais qu'il est mieux de se rallier surtout vers la cause française. Je ne peux pas même me concevoir un seul milieu où se prétendre pleinement français te sera du lest:
>dans le monde du business: "oh il est français mais parle parfaitement anglais? que c'est charmant et rare, embauchons-le"
>avec les tartelettes: "wow so hot! love your country"
Etc...

>>2089209
>no it is about the embarrassing retreat

Dunkirk is probably the least embarassing retreat in the history of modern warfare. The bulk of British army veterans being saved from certain capture or death by a bunch of bumfuck yachts and barges. It's kino mate.

Now a film about the Brits blowing up the French navy in Algeria is something i'd like to see. It showed the world that they were not going to surrender.

>>2089513
>In WW1 they were left out to dry multiple times by France.
Bountiful examples of which I'm certain you'd be delighted to invite in this thread?

>to just give up
I'd let you argue that France would've journeyed down a more honorable path had they not signed the armisitice and maintained the fight alive from the colonies, but otherwise, you do realize that the whole of mainland France was doomed. Encircled in Belgium, the options the French army had for resisting longer were sparse, and there certainly were few shows of those French soldiers surrendering themselves that weren't for that precise reason.

>DESU we should have just told Germany they could have all of France and we maybe could end the war.
>bide France into jointly declaring war on Germany, promising them that they'd be backed by your uncondotional support
>actually send 11 divisions only to France
>war doesn't start going your way
>"we should've told France to go fuck itself, we didn't even want this war :ppp"
Thank God Churchill had more honor than you did.

Repost cause ew at my spelling mistakes.

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>>2089373
As someone who's neutral (I dislike both British and French people), you Brits are the pathetic ones itt
You're acting like you were tough shit in WW2 while the truth is that you were almost as bad as frogs
The only reason why Dunkirk didnt end up like another Singapore for you is because frogs were there to save your ass

>>2089513
I can certainly blame WW2 on the anglos cowardice and complacency towards Germany before the war.

>>2089586
well that and home base was just 20 miles away across a channel they had naval superiority over

bit different than running the gauntlet through the East Indies and then on to Australia one month later

>>2089586
If Britain had surrendered in May 1940, the war would have been a German victory. So technically they DID do more than anybody else to win the war. Plus they bankrupted themselves and shot themselves in the foot.

>>2089455
>acknowledge how great French history and culture was

Or in reality it's because most English language films are going to be about events in the English speaking world

>>2089222
implying

As a French i'm proud of Collaboration, i mean look at the current state of Europe. If the Nazis and Vichy were still in power our country and continent would be fine and the World-Rulers.

>>2089649
>If the Nazis and Vichy were still in power our country
Or how about this, l'ami:

>Europe is denied the extravagant buffoonery of nazism
>Europe, and France specifically, doesn't have to submit to the guilt-tripping incited by leftist forces
>nationalism can remain a full-fledged force spared the shame of its excrescence, nazism
>the continent isn't called unto to frame itself into a supranationalist EU to hinder the possibility of future wars
>the war having been evaded, Muslims and blacks aren't summoned to Europe to build Europe anew and amend for the destruction of WW2
>capitalist countries can continue to work in unity and act as a detterent to communism, which has to confine itself to the USSR
>jews aren't dealt the "hol up, anodah shoah" card

Comme l'a dit Clemenceau, "sans Hitler, c'est la paix".

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>your country gets attacked
>surrender after 5 weeks, quicker than the Poles who were fighting twice as many opponents
>expect to get movies about your heroism and courage

>>2089702
>the war having been evaded, Muslims and blacks aren't summoned to Europe to build Europe anew and amend for the destruction of WW2
Nice mythos

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>>2089714
Burgers got countless movies/games for their involvement in WWI.

>>2089559
>excuses the post

>we got ourselves surrounded because we can't hold the line with superior man power and armor
>fucking British

>>2089725
What would've been the circumstances for greeting muslims and blacks other than under the pretense of inviting them in to rebuild our infrastructure then, and mend our fertility rates?

>>2089714
>be british
>have to depend on these guys :"surrender after 5 weeks, quicker than the Poles who were fighting twice as many opponents" to defend your retreat
Pretty embarassing I must say.

>>2089738
That's because we don't lose wars.

>>2089201
The fuck is this picture?

A quarter of a million British troops were involved.

An anti-British his thread? You do surprise me. Hateful board.

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>>2089748
>be british
>win the war

doesn't sound too embarrassing.

>>2089714
>quicker than the Poles who were fighting

Nice try Pytrsescky
I'm the first to mock the french for they display in WW2, but ine thing they at least didnt do is lasting less than Poland
Pathetic poles lasted 10 days less than frogs (and inflicted less casualties to krauts)

>>2089745
>>we got ourselves surrounded because we can't hold the line with superior man power and armor
Are you foreign to how the breach in the Ardennes materialized itself? In any means, it certainly wasn't something that could've been accounted to buckling under German might. If anything, there were no French soldiers to protect the Ardennes, and the Germans penetrated into France where there were no French soldiers.

>>2089759
>be french
>win the war

So what?

>>2089748
rebuild our infrastructure then, and mend our fertility rates?
Spoken like a true leftist cuck, did you drank your daily galloon of nigger semen today ?

>>2089755
Seriously. You can tell the Anglo hatred here is immense since so few people have even bothered to take issue with OP's shitty doctoring of the image.

>>2089755
Involved in being repatriated to England though, while they'd delegated it to the French to counter the German onslaughts against Dunkirk.

>>2089595
> Everything's Britain's fault
This is a history board, son.

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>>2089767
>winning is bad

france, everyone.

>>2089771
>rebuild our infrastructure then, and mend our fertility rates?
Except I'm saying it's a fucking pretense.
Or would you rather mean to tell me that those immigrants were greeted in France because people were eager to have muslim and black neighbors?

>Spoken like a true leftist cuck, did you drank your daily galloon of nigger semen today ?
"mommy, am I hardcore yet?"

>>2089789
>have no more arguments
>"lmao, watch this, Imma twist the meaning of his words"
Dauntingly devillish.

>>2089778
Nonsense. The British military and civilian fleets also evacuated a quarter of a million French.

You know, because allies.

>>2089752
You have a lot of films about Vietnam though

>>2089755
Involved directly in the fighting
Can't you read?
Most British troops were just sitting on the beach waiting

>>2089782
Then you would deny that the UK failed to take actions against Hitler when they could. They even signed a naval treaty, that violated the treaty of Versailles, and they did this the anniversary day of the battle of Waterloo. If you can't see the UK played Germany off against France, you need to read more about the 30s.

>>2089812
The was the exact opposite: 'evacuate' doesn't mean 'fight to the death'. Britain played the long game.

>>2089802
>Of these some 215,000 were British and 123,000 were French, of whom 102,250 escaped in British ships.[16]
Yup, and I guess I'm under the calling of politeness to extend my thanks about this matter, but regrettably, the French that were rescued by the British navy would become redundant once the French authorities ordered that they be dispatched back to Britanny, where they'd be captured without being able to commit themselves to fighting the remainder of the war.

What I was trying to say though is that the British were granted the privilege of bieng the first to board the evacuating ships, while it was relegated on the French to hold the line.
>Although Churchill had promised the French that the British would cover their escape, on the ground it was the French who held the line while the last remaining British soldiers were evacuated. Enduring concentrated German artillery fire and Luftwaffe strafing and bombs, the French stood their ground. On 2 June (the day the last of the British units embarked onto the ships),[Notes 2] the French began to fall back slowly, and by 3 June the Germans were about two miles (3 km) from Dunkirk.

>>2089802
That doesnt contradict these numbers
Hundred thousands Brits and French were sitting on the beach awaiting evacuation why the French rearguard of 30,000 was delaying the Germans
Have you rever read up about Dunkirk?

>Although Churchill had promised the French that the British would cover their escape, on the ground it was the French who held the line while the last remaining British soldiers were evacuated.
>Enduring concentrated German artillery fire and Luftwaffe strafing and bombs, the French stood their ground.
>On 2 June (the day the last of the British units embarked onto the ships),[Notes 2] the French began to fall back slowly, and by 3 June the Germans were about two miles (3 km) from Dunkirk.
>The night of 3 June was the last night of evacuations.

Basically the British evacuated first
Then when they all had been evacuated (by June 2) the French started to evacuate
Then by June 3, some of the remaining French were hastly evacuated hastly (including a few members of the rearguard that had been slowing down the Germans to allow the evacuation) while the rest were left behind and got captured

>>2089813
Britain has always played Europe. This is nothing new.

Don't forget that Hitler was widely respected until Czechoslovakia. After that it was too late to physically 'do' anything.

>>2089830
> Use British navies
> Surprised British troops are evacuated first
And? Doesn't make Britain 'evil'.

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>>2089230

Maybe if you British and French faggots didn't spend September 1939 sitting around with your thumbs up your asses while most of the German army was in Poland, or the 6 month vacation you faggots took before the Krauts decided enough was enough, you all would have be something proud to make a movie about.

Everyone killed after June 1940 is on you fucking cucks.

>>2089838
>Use French rearguard to make your evacuation possible
>Fuck the French lol

>>2089230
No one denies the French got what they deserved
The thing that annoy people is that Brits deserved that too and got away with it because frogs saved their ass while they fled

>>2089851
>Fuck the French lol
Apart from evacuating thousands of them, which Britain did, what more could be done?

>>2089859
You don't 'deserve' anything in war; you make your own destiny. Britain wasn't invade and still have the greatest navy on Earth, so why not evacuate?

There was little sense in fighting to the death over a country not your own.

>>2089871
>you make your own destiny

Except in that case it's the French that made your destiny by saving your ass

>>2089883
> whole thread devoted to Britain's abandonment of the French
> French saved Britain's ass

Fuck off, teenager.

>>2089883
If the French hadn't fucked up so immensely there wouldn't have been a need for the evacuation in the first place.

It's ironic that of the tens of thousands of evacuated French soldiers, only 3000 carried on fighting the Germans as Free French, with the rest returning willingly to France to surrender. Totally useless.

>>2089848
Why are you basing british and french general and field marshal decisions onto normal soldiers?

because the generals made bad moves, soldiers can't be heroic?

>>2089586
>that pic

Brits truly have no shame

>>2089892
People are also quick to forget that more French fought with the SS Charlemagne division than in the French resistance.

The French were no angels either.

>>2089892
Most of the evacuated French were sent back to France few days later (still weeks before the surrender) to continue the "fight" (which was already lost anyway but went on)
The very few that remained on Britain (and for some joined the Free French later) were deserters

>>2089900
> People from a country who took part in a war think their country did most.

More news at 10.

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>>2089201

Muh 51st Highland Division sacrificed at St-Valery.

>>2089201

>Hacksaw this year
>Dunkirk coming next year

is warkino back in fashion?

>>2089230

>French outpaced, generally caught in traffic jams by Blitzkrieg after the literal complete shock of Fall Gelb
>bloodied Germans heavily when actually engaging them during the invasion
>betrayed by disgusting collaborator government

The surrender monkey meme needs to fucking end

The British surrendered in disgrace far more often than the French, especially to the Japanese.

>>2089356

it's his Dark Reich trilogy, this is just the opening act

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>>2089752
>we don't lose wars

>>2089536

they should make Singapore next, the truest example of British surrendermania in WW2

>>2089702

>jews aren't dealt with

>>2089759

>gif from movie where Britain loses America because of France

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>>2090017
Btw the dude laughing plays as Charles O'Hara
Here's what this dude is remembered for

>General Charles O'Hara (1740 – 25 February 1802) was a British military officer who served in the Seven Years' War, American War of Independence, and French Revolutionary War, and later served as Governor of Gibraltar.

>During his career O'Hara personally surrendered to both George Washington and Napoleon Bonaparte.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_O'Hara

>>2090010
>a country surrendering is the same a colonial army surrendering

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>>2090056
Your country surrendered a millenium ago and never recovered sovereignty ever since that date

>>2090060

>FRANKED since 1066

>>2090060
There hasn't been a Gallic ruler of France since Avitus.

>>2090082
What about Charles the Gaul?

>>2089201
>Nolan

>>2089795
you're still a cuck

>>2090060
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>>2090082
We aren't Gauls we're French m8
But there hasn't been a Briton ruler since Buddica

>>2090082
Who is Charles the Great?

>>2089986
You both are fucking pathetic is the point being made. The difference is Britian was retreating to fight another day because France literally exploded from cowardice and retardation. You can't expect a few divisions to die or surrender for a country that won't even fight for itself.

>>2090239
>You can't expect a few divisions to die or surrender for a country that won't even fight for itself.

France surrendered weeks after you bongs ran away though

>>2089288
>The French that fought and won WW1 was gone.
Yea no, While I will agree France stood a better chance of stalling ww1, against ww1 Germany. To entertain the thought that France alone could beat Germany is dumb. If ww1 was just germany/austriahungary vs russia and france. It would have been over in 1916. Fucking germany had to barrel through belguim though. Goddammit.

>>2090340
It was just Russia and France, britbong never contributed and were shitty as fuck while French did the actual fighting.

>>2090340
>If ww1 was just germany/austriahungary vs russia and france. It would have been over in 1916

I'd say 1917
Until late 1916 France had basically held the Western Front alone given the ridiculous size of the BEF
Even during the Somme (the first time in the war that Britain contributed with significant numbers), France was still holding half the front at the Somme and all of it at Verdun
France definitly couldnt have won alone, but I'd say they would have lasted until 1917 at worst

>>2090379
I know you're a Brit trying to caricature Britain's detractors, but while exaggerated your statement is not even that far from being the truth

>>2090201
>We aren't Gauls we're French m8

Then i'm not a Anglo-Saxon.

>But there hasn't been a Briton ruler since Buddica

Apart from all the British rulers that have existed since the end of Roman rule, and furthermore, by your "we're not Gauls we're French" i'm not Briton i'm English.

>>2090251
>France surrendered weeks after you bongs ran away though

It was obvious to everybody that you'd already lost. Paris was declared an open city not a week after.

>>2090409
>implying

It is the case, anyone can compare th Battle of the Somme with Battle,of Verdun and compare the results, .

>>2090399

Not him, but I think your analysis is a bit off.

For starters, simply because the British "only" committed to an offensive posture in half of the northern area and had significant French aid (and let's not forget that the French were more successful in the Somme than the British themselves were) doesn't mean that if they vanish, France is in more or less the same position minus half an offensive.


You have all those troops, all the reserves, all that segment of line that aren't being held anymore. Those sectors need to be made up with French troops, who are now spread significantly more thinly. Since you want a local concentration of force before you launch an offensive, that means they're also far less strategically flexible; remember, the whole point of the Somme offensive, at least at the outset, was to pull pressure off of Verdun. With fewer troops, not only is Verdun (along with everywhere else) weaker, but you're far less likely to have that concentration, which means that you can't throw butter in the Germans paws by making spoiler counteroffnsives and forcing them to shift gears.

Then there's the addition of industry and the morale effect, as well as the long term projections of power; France alone had less wealth and population than Germany, they'd probably lose a long war of attrition. France+ Britain, however, is another thing entirely, and long term hope helps you hold on when things get rough instead of a projection of "It's shit, and it's going to get worse".

And that's before you have the blockade fucking with the German economy, which doesn't happen if there's no Britain in the war, or at least is far less likely. (A solely naval Franco-German war is interesting; Germany could pulverize the French fleet of WW1 on its own, if it can catch them. But France has much more access to coaling stations around the globe and can project power to more places, even if not as powerfully when it does project)

>>2090423
>English
This is merely the English version of Anglo.

>>2089230
t. Lindy Beige

>>2090471
The fuck are you blathering about?

>>2090452
>For starters, simply because the British "only" committed to an offensive posture in half of the northern area and had significant French aid (and let's not forget that the French were more successful in the Somme than the British themselves were) doesn't mean that if they vanish, France is in more or less the same position minus half an offensive.
>You have all those troops, all the reserves, all that segment of line that aren't being held anymore. Those sectors need to be made up with French troops, who are now spread significantly more thinly.


Wrong
The BEF made up for less than 100,000 troops while the French and Germans were both numbering over 2 millions
The British were literally insignificant for the first two years of the war and their absence could easily have been compensated by the French without it chaging anything

>>2090491

>The BEF made up for less than 100,000 troops while the French and Germans were both numbering over 2 millions

Are you high? The British had more than 100,000 troops at Ypres alone, and continually increased their presence in France as the war went on. By the time of the Somme, they were well over a million men (Somme itself committing about 900,000).

>The British were literally insignificant for the first two years of the war

Blockade, long term projections of power, morale, diplomatic connections to the U.S., do you want me to go on? Hell, you have some rather competent historians who assert that their presence was necessary for the Marne, like Lisle Rose.

>>2090547
>Blockade, long term projections of power, morale, diplomatic connections to the U.S., do you want me to go on? Hell, you have some rather competent historians who assert that their presence was necessary for the Marne, like Lisle Rose.
This nigga knows what is up. I made the original comment and I Stand by it.
Germany invades france, doesnt barrel through Belgium, England doesn't have an excuse to intervene. I'm sure they will eventually but think of France alone against germany for a year or two. Navy vs Navy, no blockade.
We saw the same thing in the 1870s something war with Prussia vs France. Is it really so hard to imagine a bigger country with more people and industry can defeat france?

>>2089201
>stuka siren for every moment a plane appears

wouldn't get my hopes up for this one.

>>2090730


>Germany invades france, doesnt barrel through Belgium,

Well, hold on, THAT changes things enormously. ONe of the big important part of the overall course of the Battle of the Frontiers is the local German manpower advantage, both from their overall population edge and from their faster mobilization.

Not attacking Belgium cuts the front size in about half, and the Franco-German border is heavily fortified. It's going to be a hell of a lot tougher to push through there than it is to push through the longer front. Maybe that would make up for more time, but I certainly wasn't basing my former post on that notion.

>England doesn't have an excuse to intervene.

And I'm sure they can find one, if it really becomes clear that it's in their best interests to do so.

>We saw the same thing in the 1870s something war with Prussia vs France.

To be fair, the Franco-Prussian war was very, very different to WW1; armies were still small and firepower was still diffuse enough that you could have widespread operational mobility, even in an embroiled "Front", in a way that you couldn't come WW1. That significantly helps the attacking force.

Tfw the motherland was subjugated by bickering idiots. Truly hurts to be ethnic chinese. Also as a Singaporean, the Brits abandoning this island was the correct decision. They couldn't hold this piece of God forsaken spit of land.

>>2090730
>We saw the same thing in the 1870s something war with Prussia vs France

1871 was France alone against the full might of Germany
In WW1, they'd still have Russia even if Britain didnt intervene
France would have lost, but they'd easily have lasted until 1917

>>2089778
they also got most of the french out of the dunkirk pocket.

and heres the thing that gets missed in this discussion, the brits pulled out at dunkirk sure, it was a pocket, it was pull out or lose the army, and the british didnt create that situation.

but despite the pullout they were still planning on landing troops further west ( and did indeed land some) before the french government informed the british they were going to seek armistice and the british withdrew again.

the british were willing to keep fighting for france as long as the french were

>>2089851
>>2089851
>>Use French rearguard to make your evacuation possible
>>Fuck the French lol

get all of your troops off the beach, still keep coming back for allies, the evacuation continued longer than was actually sensible.

>>2090060
by that images logic there are no americans...

of course in reality from at least henry III to elizabeth the monarchs spoke english were raised in england and thought of themselves as english, the same can be said of the stuarts after James I and the hanoverians after george II

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>>2089201
The butthurt this movie has caused among Frogs without even being released makes it entirely worthwhile.

>>2089201
Will they be using real Stukas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uvqhA4_2tU

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>>2089201
>stuka siren sound effect for all German planes
>mfw
why? it's not that hard to use/make normal plane sounds. You could probably borrow sounds from DCS if you really have to

>>2090399
>>2090399
>Until late 1916 France had basically held the Western Front alone given the ridiculous size of the BEF

mid 1915 the volunteers raised in 1914 and the winter of 14/15 started coming out of depots and shipping over by spring of 1915 and had started undertaking offensives by summer of 1915, admittedly not on the same scale as later offensives but then the french werent undertaing such huge offensives in 1915 either.

>>2092417
>>2092417
>tfw you will hear proper DB601 engine noise

The whistling gets me every-time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjTUuxDzTc&t

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>>2089201
>everyone is English

>>2089738
Not really no. Most ww1 movies are about Brits or commonwealth forces, and the most well known ww1 movie is about krauts.

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>>2089513
This.

And the most ridiculous thing is how pompous Frogs act on this board and have the gall to talk back to those who saved their asses in two fucking world wars.
Next time Germany decides to take over France we should simply let them maybe that would teach them a lesson in humility.

>>2093784
>Germany is now the "good boy" of the world.
>"ACCEPT THE FUGGING IMMIGRANTS!"
>Merci! No!!
You bet your ass literally no one would save France this time.

>>2093784
You did not save our asses, you protected your interests. You always acted to impeach any mainland dominant power. Germany's been the boy in the 20th century, and this is the only reason we allied. In WWII, you didn't save shit. You withdrew the planes way before the BEF started to retreat. And the talking back thing must be a joke, since we're the ones that saved your asses in Dunkirk. This is what this whole thread is about btw, if you could read.

Finally, you really need to be brainwashed to say things like :
>Next time Germany decides to take over France

It happened 2 times in 2000 years. So if you go on like that, you should prepare to say things like: "Next time France decides to take over England", since we invaded you 2 times in the last 1000 years.

>>2089201
>Cillian murphy playing a again
he can't keep getting away with this

>>2089586
to be fair they did quite a bit of stalling, which was more risky than U.S. money auto win or soviet meat grinders.

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>>2089752

>>2092413
/pol/ plays this while masturbating

>>2089201
>tfw italy will never be portrayed as the good guys in a WW2 movie ever
Might aswell as kill myself right now

>>2089241
>Is Kenneth Branagh Captain Bill Tennant?

>>2093925
I'm willing to be there are ones that romanticize it. There are actually a million ww2 movies and most of them are pretty gud.

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>>2093779
noice

>>2089373
It pretty much is though. There is a systematic effort from Anglos to erase France from history, even if it's not conscious.

ITT neckbeards fighting on their stupid nationalists ego about people who fighted together in apocalyptic settings.

If you like History guys couldn't you respect a little the sacrifice these guys made ? Maybe you should go back to int or pol

>>2090206
A Frank, i.e. a foreign ruler.

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>>2093925
>tfw no movie depicting Operation Compass where a bunch of Italian conscripts have to fight overwhelming odds against British and Australian troops who are presented as being viscious and terrifying monsters by comparison

>>2090056
You're right it's very different. Soldiers are putting their own lives at risk while governments aren't.

When soldiers surrender it's a sign of their cowardice. When a government surrenders it's a sign of its sense of responsibility.

>>2090082
There has never been a non-French ruler of France.
There has never been an English ruler of England.

This says all you need to know about the two countries.

>>2094137
It's thankful they weren't soldiers then. They were command stuff who made the decision to surrender.

>>2094139
>There has never been a non-French ruler of France.

France, like England, was a construct of the Early Middle Ages. It's a bunch of foreign rulers governing a group of local Gauls, the same as in England. Your exceptionalism is hilarious.

>There has never been an English ruler of England.

The 5th-11th centuries would like a word with you. The full kingdom of England itself was founded c.900 and still lasted 160 years before a Norman ruler seized the throne.

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>>2094134
>overwhelming odds
Would be a bit hard to twist the narrative that way.

>>2094157

>It's a bunch of foreign rulers governing a group of local Gauls
lol what

Just because England is a cuck country doesn't mean everyone is. When Franks conquered Gaul they assimilated into the local culture and merged with the Gallo-Romans into a single French speaking people. There are no "Gauls" and "Franks" anymore, that's completely ridiculous.

Compare with England where the French established a class system with themselves as the aristocracy and continued to speak French for centuries, to the point where the divide is still clear today. All while the English crown got whored off to one foreign family after another, Germans and Dutch who weren't even Norman let alone English.

>The full kingdom of England itself was founded c.900 and still lasted 160 years before a Norman ruler seized the throne.
And it was ruled by Danes, lmao.

>>2094166
Each Italian soldier is worth 0.1 of a British soldier. It'd be like Predator.

>>2094174
>French established a class system with themselves as the aristocracy and continued to speak French for centuries, to the point where the divide is still clear today

Within two generations the Norman elite had assimilated ethnically into the local population.

>And it was ruled by Danes, lmao.

Cnut didn't live for 160 years.

>>2094198
>Within two generations the Norman elite had assimilated ethnically into the local population.
pfffffhahahahahahahaahahahaahaaaah

Even TODAY people with Norman surnames are still far wealthier on average than Anglo plebs. Not to mention the entire British aristocracy is made of people of entirely French descent. Who like I said before were still speaking French as their mothertongue until the 15th century.

>>2094206
It's what my professor told me when I asked a few years back. Retaining a French surname isn't the same as being completely beholden to French culture.

>
Even TODAY people with Norman surnames are still far wealthier on average than Anglo plebs

The fuck?

>the entire British aristocracy is made of people of entirely French descent

Ignoring the fact that we barely have an aristocracy anymore due to the costs of maintaining those country manors, I don't think this is actually true. Most of the "noble" families we have weren't part of the nobility for more than a few centuries, and long after French culture declined in England. The only thing French really impacted on was the legal system. Our aristocracy are definitely not ethnically French though.

I myself have some French ancestry, from a bunch of Huguenot former aristocrats who fled France and ended up tin mining in Cornwall.

Your entire post is made up of a combination of shitposting and falsely held beliefs.

>>2090750

except they show stukas in the trailer

>>2090028
>During his career O'Hara personally surrendered to both George Washington and Napoleon Bonaparte.

holy fucking kek

>>2094218

>The fuck?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8424904/People-with-Norman-names-wealthier-than-other-Britons.html

>Research shows that the descendants of people who in 1858 had "rich" surnames such as Percy and Glanville, indicating they were descended from the French nobility, are still substantially wealthier in 2011
>In addition, today the holders of "rich" surnames live three years longer than average.

>Our aristocracy are definitely not ethnically French though.
That's some extreme delusion.

Let's start with something simple. Look at the surnames of every ducal family in the peerage of Britain. Aside from the Scottish and Irish nobility and the royal family, every single one of them is of French ancestry, with the exception of the Duke of Wellington, who is the most recently created.

>>2089838
The French, Dutch, and Belgian navies were all involved in the Dunkirk evacuation. I'm not aware of how many destroyers the French used, but they lost 3 and the British 6, so therefor the French naval contingent seems likely to have been significant.

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>>2089748
>be French
>have to depend on the British to defend your country against the Germans for the second time
>get mad when they retreat instead of being annihilated by an overwhelming mechanized force

Tell me about the French, why can't they fight Germans 1 on 1?

>>2094287
>>2094218
Just for giggles I went and had some fun (or my idea of it) and checked out the ancestries of every single ducal family in the peerages of England, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom. Here are the results:

Dukes of Norfolk
>FitzAlan, from the Breton knight Alan fils Flaad

Dukes of Somerset
>Seymour, from Saint-Maur (either in Seine or in Touraine)

Dukes of Richmond, Lennox, and Gordon
>bastards of Charles II

Dukes of Grafton
>FitzRoy, as in fils du roy, bastards of Charles II

Dukes of Beaufort
>Somerset, descendant of Edward III, who was of course descendant of the counts of Anjou

Dukes of St Albans
>Beauclerk, easy one

Dukes of Bedford
>Russell, from king John's steward, whose name comes from the French Roussel

Dukes of Devonshire
>Cavendish, descendant of John Cavendish, himself descendant of the Norman Robert de Gernon

Dukes of Marlborough
>Spencer-Churchill, Spencer from the Le Despenser family, and Churchill from De Courcil

Dukes of Rutland
>Manners, from De Mesnières

Dukes of Manchester
>Montagu, descendant of Drogo de Montaigu, from Coutances

Dukes of Northumberland
>Percy, from William de Percy, a companion of William the Conqueror

Dukes of Wellington
>Wellesley, the single non-French family in this list

Dukes of Sutherland
>Egerton, descendant of William le Belward, a Norman

Dukes of Westminster
>Grosvernor, from Hugh Le Grand Veneur, a companion of William the Conqueror

This is just going by patrilineal ancestry, but if you trace back the lineage of any of their female ancestors you'll just end up with French people the same.


Of course this isn't talked about in England because the notion of ethnically separate classes would be very bad for social cohesion. But the fact is that, even if it's sometimes masked by the deformation of the original French names, or the fact that some families changed their names to locational ones, the Norman Conquest completely replaced the aristocracy of England with a French one.

>>2094287
>hurr durr male line ancestry is ur ethnic makeup

This is why haploautism maps should be banned.

>>2094337
>Be British
>Never accomplish anything useful on your own
>Get mad when another nation expects even the slightest credit for saving hundreds of thousands of your soldiers from capture

Tell me about the British, why are they so useless ?

>>2094364
Oh wait I missed one. The dukes of Norfolk are called Fitzalan-Howard.

The Howard part is from John Howard, whose name comes from the Norman Huard, but who inherited the dukedom through his mother Margaret de Mowbray, daugther of Thomas de Mowbray and Elizabeth FitzAlan, Mowbray being a deformation of Montbray in Normandy, home of the ancestor Nigel d'Aubigny (who given his name came from somewhere else in France).

>>2094364
>>2094387
Why do French people think male/female line ancestry means anything aside from heritage wankery on 4chan?

You do realize these families are so mixed in with [literally all the nobility in Europe] plus [any commoners that may have decided to marry into the family over the years] that they're just genetic mutts, right?'

Go read a book on human genetics and come back.

>>2094409
Yes I'm sure it's just a coincidence and one side of every single noble family's ancestry just happens to be 100% French while the rest is totally English.

>This is just going by patrilineal ancestry, but if you trace back the lineage of any of their female ancestors you'll just end up with French people the same.

Learn to read and (don't) come back.

>>2094417
>I think human beings inherit 100% of their genes from dead ancestors 900 years prior

LOL FRENCH EDUCATION

>>2094409
Go read a book on nobility. Noble houses are defined by their surname. That's the name of the father.

The entire English aristocracy is French (with a few exception including the Windsors who are German, but they're newcomers). Meanwhile the entire French aristocracy was French, including its kings. How hard do you have to delude yourself to not see the difference.

PS:

>In humans, the 16,569 base pairs of mitochondrial DNA encode for only 37 genes.[3]

>To date, over 200 Y-linked genes have been identified.[4]

>There are an estimated 19,000-20,000 human protein-coding genes.[4]

Guess which parts you inherit from your male line or female line ancestors?

This board needs flags and post ids.

Imma tell you what i told /tv/ last night.

Stop whining about the contents of movies you haven't seen. None of you have seen it yet, but still you're outraged by your own presumptions and pass them off as facts. This is no different than all the people losing their shit over muh SJWs prior to the release of fury road, TFA and rogue one only for it to be literally non issues.

>>2094422
Have we entered the "pretending to be a full blown retard for maximum damage control" phase of the argument now?

Yes genetics are defined by your dead ancestors. Not that anyone but you was even talking about genetics in the first place.

>>2094429
see
>>2094434

Ancestry doesn't mean shit in terms of ethnicity.

>>2094438
>ethnicity is not genetic

French education

>>2094440
>>2094441
Yeah ok at this point you're just punching yourself in the nuts, I'm going to leave you alone now. Sorry for rekting you into a nervous breakdown.

>>2094447
>gets logically owned
>n-no you were just mad all the time!

french tears are better than your wine desu

DAILY REMINDER THAT HAPLOAUTISM IS NOT ETHNIC MAKEUP

>>2094374
Nobles marry other nobles you straw-grabbing buffoon.

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>>2089201

>>2094198
>Within two generations the Norman elite had assimilated ethnically into the local population.

Care to explain why Lionheart six generations later still couldnt speak English then

>>2089201
Isn't that the thing where the french were covering the british retreat and Hitler eventually just let them leave? Wow what a heroic british moment

>>2095240
Crazy to see this dumb naziboo meme on a board for people supposed to be educated about history

The Germans halted for a short time because the lines were overextended and German generals feared the same thing that happened at the Marne in 1914 could happen again

After that they reverted to offensive in full force, and had it not been for the French rearguard's last stand, the evacuation would have been prevented regardless of the short halt

>>2095249
Oh. That only makes the french look better

>>2089536
>tfw when you fuck up so badly that your army gets completely surrounded and your forced to evacuate 350,000 men with fucking yachts
Pretty heroic

>>2089488
whats the caption to that comic?

>>2095821
1940 Dunkirk - The British oppose the embarkment of the last Frenchmen who had covered their evacuation

>>2094451
Not the other anon, but you're not making sense. Nobility doesn't define itself by ethnicity, but by lineage. Besides the concept of french or british ethnicity is kinda stupid. Southern french are not the same than northern or eastern ones, yet they're all french.