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How democratic was the USSR before Stalin, under Stalin,

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How democratic was the USSR before Stalin, under Stalin, and after Stalin?
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Not very.
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>>2088127
Very
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Sort of
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>>2088127
0/10
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It was more republican. Except you didn't vote for your representatives.
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can you repeat the question
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>>2088127
>before Stalin
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>under Stalin
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>and after Stalin?
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>>2088127
Incredibly democratic in that it represented the interests of the people directly. All policy was written in pursuit of the interests of the proletarians.

However, the USSR was not very democratic in that most citizens could not directly affect their own governance. During the Stalin era however, it was incredibly common for people from humble backgrounds to rise to the upper levels of Soviet society. Khruschev was born a peasant, as was Stalin himself. Both were also ethnic minorities.

After Stalin, the USSR became less meritocratic. By Brezhnev's time, ethnic and family connections essentially determined one's ability to enter the nomenklatura. This compromised the democratic nature of the USSR, as Soviet bureaucrats began advancing their own interests at the expense of proletarian interests.
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>>2088147
Yes you did. I have no idea how this meme is still so popular. Soviet citizens couldn't directly choose their executive leader, but neither can people in any parliamentary republic today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_Soviet_Union

Don't take Cold War propaganda at face value.
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>>2088127
Essentially, it's a broken republican representative democracy, where voting was rigged all the time, and patronism was rampant.
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>>2088248
sounds like America
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> Incredibly democratic in that it represented the interests of the people directly. All policy was written in pursuit of the interests of the proletarians.
What evidence supports this claim?
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>>2089639
https://constitutii.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/1936-en.pdf
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Democratic-ish. Before Stalin, local elections were open to independents, and they won just as much as bolshevik candidates. Local elections weren't just political, but workplace: this was the guy who was going to represent you to the factory management. Electing a shit guy to the position would mean fucking up your bonuses.

Within the party, democratic-ish. Democratic centralism is built off the idea that factions within the party and party democracy would serve an adequate enough replacement for multi-story elections. Soviet representatives weren't always representative, most folks didn't give a shit about federal politics and were not incentivized to do so, but in general it meant that the party had some accountability, and was at least not run by one person (even the Politburo had real limits of power) but was composed of the elected party officials as a whole.
The Stalin years, well....
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>>2089619
>sounds like America
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>>2088198
>>>/leftypol/

Fuck off
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