Why didn't Jews just willingly leave Germany when the Nazis

>>2070260
They weren't allowed to.
Or they weren't allowed to leave with anything but the shirt on their backs.

>>2070270
They were allowed to leave if they paid next years taxes up front.

>>2070270
Look up the Haavara Agreement. The National Socialists assisted the Jews, 50,000 (one tenth of the Jewish population in Germany) in emigrating to Palestine with their possessions.
Both narratives that the National Socialists intended to kill all the Jews and wouldn't let them leave are fabricated.

>>2070260

they had to pay pretty much everything they had in order to leave

the only ones that didnt leave were the really poor ones that couldnt afford and the ones that were really rich and comfortable with their position in german society

>>2070260
>why doesn't the parasite want to leave the host?
Gee I wonder.

>>2070260
They had to pay a punitive tax and even then they couldn't really take their assets abroad because German money was worthless and Germany had no foreign exchange to spare for fleeing Jews.

>>2070260
>Why would they refuse?
Not everyone is willing and able to leave his home at a whim of some Austrian autist.

>>2070389
When the alternative is you die you'd think you'd just want to get out of there.

>>2070394
When they realized that, it was already too late.

>>2070260
Rich ones could go anywhere and plenty leave.
Poor on the other hand were not welcomed.
Seriously the only country who take Jews no question asked was Poland.
>>2070287
Polish government made similar deals with local Jewish parties and support their movement to Palestine.
Over all main German plan was to send Jews to Madagascar. This would fix both issues - give Jews new Israel and get them out of Europe. War force them abandon it and later they have other various problems. Germans try to use Jews as a trading card with UK and USA but nobody care about poor eastern Jews so they rot in camps and died in forced labor.

>>2070260
According to this Jewish history class I took nobody else wanted them. No country would take them including the US because everyone hated them at the time.

You know "just moving" was a little more difficult in 1933 rather than now in our age of international travel and easy to obtain visas, right?

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I remember reading materials on it
It could essentially be summed up to that if you did leave, you where limited to a rather big amount of cash/bonds/bank notes.

Which also created butthurt for Rich German Capitalists that sorta wasn't on best terms due betting against the Nazi party in the 1930s elections.
There is books published on the subject, that essentially boils down to "what, i can't take my IP, my production, my gold hoarde, and my engineers, and leave over night?" and the ensuring hatred from it.

Beyond that, nothing actually stopped them from leaving.
Beyond their own stupidity, or in some cases: Their own lack of funds.
Sure that eventually changed as the Discrimination ramped up, but that also meant Jews had between 1930s and 1941-1942 to actually pack and leave.


But the easiest thing forgotten?
With no superstates, and WW1 starting the trends of passports and higher regulations of citizenship?
Basically: Germany has no colonies, so there was nowhere for the Jews to go without any form of questions asked.
Had British pulled this, there would have been a mass immigration towards their colonies.
So the people that left, had to deal with paperwork, which in most cases was easy to deal with, since this was pre cold war.

Also nobody really wanted Jewish Diaspora, because this was still in the times where there existed "Trade quarters" in various port cities, with not integrated populations that might be temporary or permanent.
Middleclass Jews wasn't really anything to collect, especially in times when The Communist Manifesto and Facism stood for elevating the lower classes.

>>2070389
It wasn't their home.

>>2070866
Literally MILLIONS of shit poor penniless Italians, Irish and Pollacks managed to move to the US in 19th century and you're telling me that Jews were unable to?

>>2070260
>Why didn't Jews just willingly leave Germany when the Nazis took power?
Because they had family and business in the country.
And they weren't warned beforehand of the holocaust.
>Before they started killing them the Nazis also tried getting other countries to take them, like America, but these countries refused. Why would they refuse?
America had recently experienced a massive wave of immigration, and popular sentiment had turned against allowing further immigration. Especially of non-Germanic peoples.

>>2070260
>Why didn't Jews just willingly leave Germany when the Nazis took power?

You are aware that most, in fact the overwhelming majority of the Jews who died in the Holocaust, weren't from Germany, right?

>>2071220
It was though. They legally owned the property.

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>>2071438
>property rights

>>2070260
Populist sentiment in the U.S. was that they were too different and wouldn't fit into our culture- so they shouldn't be allowed to immigrate here.

>>2071455
>>2070317
>>2071220
fuck off /pol/

>>2071498
>US
>culture
hilarious

>>2071605
>I've been found out

>>2071636
>Contribute nothing to a thread but shitty non arguments and gets called out
>HAHA SURE SHOWED THAT KIKE JIDF BTFO

>>2070270
And even if they wanted to, the country they settled in was probably conquered by the Germans in the war.

>>2071654
It wasn't their home. Germany is a country for Germans, if I buy a house in fucking Saudi Arabia it won't make me a Saudi Arab.

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>>2070260
>why would they refuse
idk really makes you think

>>2071672
Being a citizen of saudi arabia would in fact make you a Saudi Arabian you fucking idiot, what reality distorting autism are you spouting this time

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>>2071605
>in /pol/ thread
>fuck off /pol/

>>2071672
If you buy that house and your next 4 generations have lived there then it's your next 4 generations' home.

>>2071683
>anything but ius sangunis
lmaoing @ your life

>>2071699
>Believing in a system that creates a permanent underclass that produces crime and drives down wages instead of absorbing them.

>>2071699
>ius sangunis
>Saudi Arabia

Nice backpedaling

>>2071712
>permanent underclass that produces crime and drives down wage
...Jews?

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>>2071699

>>2071699
>jus 'hey, he's in our national team because his grandpa is our countryman!' sanguinis
>not the most spooked out of spooks

>>2070260
Because it was their home and many of them were extremely patriotic

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>>2071756
>implying Stirner didn't believe in ethnicity

Try harder

>>2071764
Is that Stirner?
That's some high-tier autism

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>>2071785

>>2071764
Stirner was playing with common racial ideas here.

He was using the common thought of negroid, mongolion and caucasian ages and pointing out that current so-called caucasian society is still mongoloid by this metric, as it's anti-individual.

Also blindly following every word of Saint Max would be spooked as fuck

>>2071811
>Also blindly following every word of Saint Max would be spooked as fuck
Well we have to blindly follow SOMEONE

>>2070260
Some did. A whole bunch fled West into the Netherlands and France.

That sure saved them in 1940.

>>2070260
They were naive and didn't believe the nazis would actually act on what they were saying. also in the beginning even the nazis weren't aiming for genocide. that is something that was decided later on in wartime. after things got worse many did leave though. Anne Frank's family for example were German jews who fled to the Netherlands only to find themselves under German occupation later on. Jews who fled to France faced the same problem. Most of the Jews killed in the death camps weren't German Jews though. They were Eastern Europeans who came under German jurisdiction when Hitler and his allies invaded their countries.

I hate idiots from /pol/ so much. It's sad that a history board takes them seriously. Just look at this fucking thread. Stupid op idiot doesn't even know that most Jews killed were Polish, soviet and Hungarian Jews. This is really basic knowledge. How can you discuss history with such people?

>>2072136
>They were naive and didn't believe the nazis would actually act on what they were saying.

Please. A Polish Zionist Jew assassinated Ernst vom Rath, the German ambassador to France, and the Kristallnacht happened in retaliation.
One full year before the invasion of Poland. Not only was he assassinated by a Jew, the Jew was Polish, so obviously Jews everywhere in Europe and America were aware of the anger against them in Germany.

>>2070260

A lot of Jews did leave.

Most notably all the Jewish Physicists who built the bomb.

Had the Soviets not beaten the German army, Germany would have gotten nuked by the bomb of the Jews who they kicked out of the country.

If Germans weren't so hell bent on being anti-Semites, they would have the scientists who could have literally built the bomb and nuked Moscow and London by 1945.

Think about that long and hard.

>>2072184
I did, then I realized the Jews would have remained and eventually had a successful socialist revolution, the Germans would have never culturally recovered, and the bomb would have been produced in Israel instead of Germany.
Or maybe a German equivalent of the Rosenbergs would have smuggled plans into the USSR anyways, or maybe Germany would have been a satellite state of the USSR.

Thanks for really making me think.

>>2072200

The Jewish scientists who built the bomb were neither socialists nor Zionists.

Had Germany kept them, they would have won the war and the Nazis would still be in power today.

But MUH JEWS! THE JEWS DID IT ALL! OH NOES!

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>>2072200
>I did, then I realized the Jews would have remained and eventually had a successful socialist revolution
>m-muh Spartacist boogeyman!

Funny how one failed minor uprising is all the justification the Germans need to genocide the Jews, but another failed minor uprising is all they needed to elect the Nazis into the government.

Really makes one use their noggin.

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>>2072211
>mfw Jewish Physics was an actual party line Himmler pushed
>mfw they literally labeled the Theory of Relativity as anti-Aryan and banned its teaching

And people try to say that Germany had the best scientists in the world.

>>2072180
Oh look it's a /pol/ack manipulating history again. Just read about Herszel Grynszpan on Wikipedia.

>>2072200

And are you fucking retarded. If the Germans had the bomb the first thing they would do would nuke USSR, so no one could smuggle the bomb to them.

>>2072180
>Please. A Polish Zionist Jew assassinated Ernst vom Rath, the German ambassador to France, and the Kristallnacht happened in retaliation.

the pogroms had been planned long before that

>Not only was he assassinated by a Jew, the Jew was Polish, so obviously Jews everywhere in Europe and America were aware of the anger against them in Germany.

this doesn't make any sense, what are you even trying to say here

>>2072200
>would've been a socialist revolution

>when the majority of German jews were conservative, as opposed to the Eastern European jews who are primarily liberal and socialist

>not knowing basic shit in 2016

>>2072263
>this doesn't make any sense, what are you even trying to say here

It means he's drafting the new UKIP policy on Poles as we speak.

>>2072180
>one person does x

>therefore all people vaguely related to x exhibit the same motives


????????? Why do you do this to us anon

>>2072275
>making up shit in 2016

Yeah, Rosa Luxembourg isn't a real person.
>>2072263
Oh, I guess the Germans were just lucky a Jew killed a German diplomat? Mere coincidence that the pogrom happened right after?

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>>2072275
No, don't you get it, anon? All Jews are working towards the eternal Communist revolution and the elimination of capitalism. ESPECIALLY the Jews who are wealthy industrialists and bankers. They're the most die-hard socialist of them all.

>>2072287
>one socialist girl who died in 1919 represents the majority of jews in germany sicne 1850 lmao

>being retarded in 2016

It's basic history my dude, it's not some debate, do you want me to link the data or are you just shitposting?

>>2072275
People within Russia were "conservative" the same way German citizens were. No excuses that not only Germany maintained piece of shit leaders like Ebert, but Hitler as well. Their success was the victory of capitalist propaganda to maintain capitalism and national division.

>>2072180
>>2072287
>Please. A Polish Zionist Jew assassinated Ernst vom Rath, the German ambassador to France, and the Kristallnacht happened in retaliation.
Uh huh. That Kristallnacht was surprisingly well organized for a "spontaneous" retribution doesn't throw up any flags for you, does it.

Also
>taking action against unrelated civilians across your whole country for the action of a foreigner
>this is acceptable

Well then, Germans burned down France, so I say we go and burn down all the German-owned business in the world. By your logic, that's A-Okay.

>>2072291
>all jews of all times, eras and places are HIVEMIND LMAO

>>>/s4s/ with that utter nonsense, you're on /his/, act professional or go to /int/ where you can have the same conversation with less intelligence

>>2072250
You're not following me at all.
The Jews would never have developed a bomb for Germany.
They only developed the bomb in America to punish Germany.
They would not have supported Germany in a war against the USSR.
There was already an attempt made to create a German SSR
And the Jews who developed the bomb in the US eventually helped make the bomb in Israel- essentially giving a foreign power US nuclear secrets. And LBJ let them since he had been bought out by Jewish money as this anon here mentions.
>>2072291
What you don't get is they're flexible. Use what is available to maintain power, and it is well known Jewish bankers such as the Schiffs helped finance the Bolsheviks.

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>>2072304
That's the point I'm making you nimrod. Have you never noticed that Stormfags both rail against Jews for being bankers controlling the economy AND communist revolutionaries at the same time?

>>2072310
>The Jews would never have developed a bomb for Germany
Considering Germany didn't have the resources necessary to develop a nuclear bomb you're right, they had no heavy water facilities to even start

Despite saying """"jews"""" like all the jewish physicists are one fucking person, which is literally lunatic tier nonsense, those jewish scientists only managed to do it with American and British scientists help, they literally had the best minds in the world working together, if Germany had that they might've done it too

>>2072313
I read too quick, sorry anonkun

>>2072291

/pol/ is starting to make me like these Jews.

By /pol/ definition, these are people who want to "genocide" you through not outlawing inter-"racial" dating while they are also for their own extinction as a collective of ebil industrialists and bankers through the destruction of the system they supposedly all thrive in.

More power to them!

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>>2072310
And the Jews who fought and died for the Kaiser? What of them? Secret plotters all?

>>2072310
And regarding the betrayal and motives of the Jewish physicists.

>For some twenty years, Teller advised Israel on nuclear matters in general, and on the building of a hydrogen bomb in particular. In 1952, Teller and Oppenheimer had a long meeting with David Ben-Gurionin Tel Aviv, telling him that the best way to accumulate plutonium was to burn natural uranium in a nuclear reactor. Starting in 1964, a connection between Teller and Israel was made by the physicistYuval Ne'eman, who had similar political views. Between 1964 and 1967, Teller visited Israel six times, lecturing atTel Aviv University, and advising the chiefs of Israel's scientific-security circle as well as prime ministers and cabinet members.

>In 1967 when the Israeli nuclear program was nearing completion, Teller informed Neeman that he was going to tell theCIAthat Israel had built nuclear weapons, and explain that it was justified by the background of theSix-Day War. After Neeman cleared it with Prime MinisterLevi Eshkol, Teller briefed the head of the CIA's Office of Science and Technology,Carl Duckett. It took a year for Teller to convince the CIA that Israel had obtainednuclear capability; the information then went through CIA DirectorRichard Helmsto the president at that time,Lyndon B. Johnson. Teller also persuaded them to end the American attempts to inspect theNegev Nuclear Research Centerin Dimona. In 1976 Duckett testified inCongressbefore theNuclear Regulatory Commission, that after receiving information from "American scientist", he drafted aNational Intelligence Estimate(NIE) on Israel's nuclear capability.

>>2072304
You're unwilling to believe a people who maintained their ethnic and religious differences in their diaspora nations for 2,000 years, maintain this identity so well then re-coalesced back into a singular nation. Thats just stupid.

>>2072275
The majority of eastern European Jews were orthodox Jews. They were less assimilated than German Jews and they didn't care about politics.

>>2072321
Daily reminder that the same jewish officer who lobbied for Hitler to get the Iron Cross for bravery got beaten up by nazi thugs barely 10 years later

>>2072310
So did Kaiser Wilhelm you idiot. The Bolsheviks were seen as a prime chance to cut Russia off at the knees through internal strife.

Or did you forget just how Lenin got back to Russia in 1917?

>>2072321
In a thread where people are saying the that "a few Jews were in the Sparticist revolution, it means nothing!" your post has even less value.

>>2072322
In other words, the monolithic Jews do the same thing stormshits want to do in a more extreme form a la Nazism.

>>2072322
>maintained their ethnic and religious differences in their diaspora nations for 2,000 years
Are you actually reading what you're typing? Jews changed as much as any other people's over 2000 years, from greeks to Chinese, their culture never stayed the same century to century, what the fuck are you talking about? Israel todays varied specifically because how different jews all over the world became

>>2072332
>Lenin got back to Russia in 1917?
Well, a jewish plot obviously...

... oh... oh wait.... the Kaiser... oh.. uh.... jews!?

>>2072334
literally a dozen jews who took part in protesys in 1918 and died in 1919 has little in comparison with Jews serving in the German imperial army in the same numbers as the damn Prussians

>>2072334
>handful of Jews stage revolution
>get put down by other Jews
>this is representative of all Jews everywhere being traitors
>over 100,000 Jews enlist in the Kaiser's armies with a 10% death rate
>this means absolutely nothing about their loyalty to Germany

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>>2072344
>Jews chomp at the bit to prove that they love Germany and were willing to die for her
>Germans still blame them for everything going wrong

Pretty tragic desu. They thought it was their one big chance, and it didn't even matter in the end.

>>2072332
Were discussing the National Socialists, not the Kaiser and his poor decisions.

>>2072310
The Jews hated Germany so much that one of them Fritz Haber developed poisonous gas for the empire during ww1.

>>2072345
I can't believe we have to have this thread every damn week, we could be talking about ancient empires and doing REAL historical analysis

>>2072359
Such is humanity my friend, reading ancient history, humans have always been this horrible, one time a guy in turkey decided to kill every roman man, woman and child, pretty much for no reason

>>2072345
Yep, a higher percentage of Jews fought and died in WWI than any other minority in Germany. Some traitors

>>2072378
>other minority
>ignoring the motives of self promotion and destruction of the Romanovs in retaliation of the pogroms suffered there
>>2072345
>handful of Jews
I'm going to compile an actual number of Jews involved in the Sparticist revolution, and if it exceeds 1,000 then I will post it here repeatedly.

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>>2072366
/pol/ is always desperate

It's a shame we won't have normal conversations until America goes communist and abolishes wage-slavery worldwide so that the precondition for /pol/'s retardation would die out.

>>2072335
Finally you acknowledge it. Congrats, aIthough I bet that won't deter you from playing the goodest goy possible.
>>2072338
>The jews changed
>but not enough to not evict an entire nation in the middle east over a religious claim to the land so they could reconvene and recreate their unified culture again

>>2072393
Where there is smoke there is a fire, and you're willing to sit in a burning house telling everyone its merely an imagination.

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>>2072386
And yet, nobody ever acknowledges that the co-leader of the uprising wasn't Jewish.

It's like only the Jews matter, the Germans that were involved were only misled by Jewish lies or someshit.

>>2072386
It's the sparticist revolt you retard, it's called such because it's an event that took place during the broader German Revolution

>>2072394

You're by far the least interesting pol poster I've seen in weeks

>>2072393
>It's a shame we won't have normal conversations until America goes communist and abolishes wage-slavery worldwide

> /pol/'s retardation

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

>>2072393
anon wtf you just went full communist out of nowhere dude


marx said communism only comes out of hypercatalism, let's let history just take its course

>>2072366
You can do whatever you want, no one is stopping you.

Tbh I "won" most arguments itt, from the Jews not being made aware of hostility towards them, to proving that Kristallnacht was reactionary and justified, to explaining the Germans initially assisted the Jews in leaving to the jews not having any true allegiance to anyone but themselves, which is why I find the proclaimed patriotic motivation behind their WW1 service dubious.

>>2072399
Liebknecht was a great man. o7

>>2072405
Do you think people call polturds mentally ill for no reason? They just chose a random word and stuck with it? Merely coincidence every board but /tv/ calls pol pure cancer ?

>>2072414
>Tbh I "won"
God you're autistic, how old are you?

>>2072386
>>ignoring the motives of self promotion and destruction of the Romanovs in retaliation of the pogroms suffered there
And the Prussians were all for Germany, then? They didn't want to kill Russians or Frogs or anything else that might be selfish?

>>2071818
I don't know about you but I plan on blindly following myself, my property.

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>>2072394
>literally admitting wanting to fuck everyone over the same way "Jews" do, which we all knew already
>with literally every stormbaby giving the most grotesque description of what "jews" do
/pol/ is a religion of peace

>>2072420
>I won't address any points, I'll just call him autistic and talk down to him based on age

Hey, I thought you were sneaking back to some interesting and in depth historical discussion elsewhere.
>>2072422
One man's vices doesn't justify another, crashing the Prussians won't vilify the Jews.

>>2072432
>fuck over everyone like the Jews do

Now your just projecting motives onto me, I want the Jews out of my nation, that is all. They've done enough damage here already. America doesn't need to blow another trillion dollars taking their other enemies in Syria and Iran out so they can play kings of the Middle East.

>>2072442
>I won't address any points
I wasn't

>I'll just call him autistic

This shit just writes itself, you're crying over being called autistic

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>>2072455
>my nation
anon, I have some news for you...

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>>2072455
>nations
>muh unadulterated capitalism
This isn't 1791, faggot.

>>2072393
FUCKING LEL

>communist ideology revolves around jealousy over the upper class bankers and businessmen, claiming they should own the means of production

>mock National Socialists for "being jealous of the jews success as bankers and businessmen"

How many layers of irony are we on here?

>>2072460
Jon Stewart pls go
>>2072456
>I'll insult him
>omg he is insulted

You have a dizzying intellect

>>2072470
>being literally buttblasted
>trying to justify your sore rear

Anon, this is 4chan, your safe space isn't here

>>2072474
>safe spaces
>g-go away /pol/

>>2072467
>I'll basically justify capitalism with "class conscious workers and revolutionary organizers are just jealous that rich people exploit them to be that rich. It was well-earned."
>Also, the jews did capitalism, might as well destroy a lot of jews who are actually working class.
pol.txt

>>2072480
>lmao someone being retarded on a board focused on an academic study is just FREE SPEACH LMAO


You're autistic, but it's confusing why you think this is /pol/ with dates

>>2072506
When you label me, you negate me.

Too bad you couldn't negate any arguments though.

>>2072501
>implying I was justifying capitalism (which has more justification than marxism btw) and not merely poking at the hypocrisy in the oft used argument that "anti-semitism" stems from jealously.

You commies man.

>>2070260
>what's he gonna do if we don't leave, kill us?
things always seem like they'll get better until they don't

>>2072544
"Moderates" on Trump in a nutshell.

other countries refused Because of their hatred for Jesus Christ and Predatory lending practices. Not to mention their kabalistic rituals which according to some sources included child sacrifice. Kabalistic Jews have been kicked out of many countries in past because of these reasons.

>>2072591
>Predatory lending practices
citation?

>>2072591

Um... Many Medieval kings kept Jews around so they could get loans (some Kings even expelling the Jews so they did not have to pay back loans).

But then Christians started to ignore the Bible and started making predatory loans too so yeah. Christians are predatory loan sharks too these days and its the corner stone of capitalism.

If you have a 401K or an interest bearing bank account, you are in direct violation of the Bibles commandments (doesn't stop rich GOP politicians from claiming they are good Christians).

Really. The only people who care about usury are the Orthodox Russians because they are based. Protties and Catholocucks would rather earn more money than salvation.

Also Muslims...

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>>2072674

Care to cite that quote with a source more than a picture. I mean I can make a picture and make anyone quote anything I'd like.

>>2072674
What does this have to do with anything? Weird utopian movements were common after ww1.

The world was changing in a rapid pace and a lot of people were afraid and confused about these changes. At the same time science basically replaced religion for many intellectuals and they thought it's possible to create a new perfect and peaceful world now.

Kalergi and his utopian thought has nothing to do with Hitler or the nsdap.

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>>2072737
>What does this have to do with anything?

I wish the Final Solution had been more Final.

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>>2072759
>group of people who got routinely rebuffed and ignored when they were refugees coming out to help other refugees

WHOA MAN IT'S A FUCKING CONSPIRACY

>>2072768
>People assisting "refugees" from a set of nations who have been their nation's adversaries for the last 50 years, whom they deem (by action) to be dangerous

I wish you were really thinking. Nothing is wiser than fomenting a war that is a drain on your enemy financially while siphoning the population to Europe where they won't be a threat anymore.
If you would use your fucking critical thinking skills and open up to the idea that maybe, just maybe, the jews aren't the good boys dindu nuffins you truly believe they are.

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>>2072830
>The Jews, despite hating Arabs intensely, are helping them destroy Europe
>Because Reasons

>>2072839
Yes, as you pointed out here
>>2072768
They were routinely rebuffed there, in fact they claim they were genocided by Europeans at multiple points. I'm actually having to remind you of your own arguments now.

>>2070260
The German Jewish population was roughly halved between 1932 and 1939. Many Jews in Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Hungary had just recently escaped from Germany.

>>2072857
So, just to make this clear.

Your argument is that in revenge for Hitler, the Jews are aiding the people who actively hate them NOW and try to kill them all NOW.

That about right?

>>2072857
>rebuffed there

They were rebuffed everywhere. The most famous incident was the Voyage of the Damned that was stuck off Cuba.

>>2072455
America doesn't belong to you any more than it belongs to a Jewish American

>>2072867
No, they are fomenting the war in Syria, the "aid" is merely ensuring their entry into Europe. I made my point clearly fuck face. Not my fault you take any criticism of Jews to be a meme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm

>>2072882
Justify Israel.

>>2072899
No you fucking didn't. It's not my fault that you take your blind hatred of Jews to meme levels.

>>2072904
>blind

I've given my reasons.

>>2072878
>America won't even accept a boatload of Jews
>Nazis helped 50,000 emigrate to Palestine

>>2072905
Nigger you're arguing that Jews are formenting a war in Syria to kill Syrians and then sending refugees to Europe to destroy them as a punishment for the Holocaust.

You're fucking batshit, m8.

>>2072911
I linked the plan created in 1996 by both Benjamin Netanyahu and Richard Perle who was Bush's Chairman of the Board for the invasion of Iraq and then Syria.

>>2072911

Also if Muslims take over European countries they will be hostile to Israel?

Why would they fucking do that?

>>2072923
You posted a policy paper about Israel's foreign policy going forward dealing with their longest-standing rival (but what also stated the importance of supporting Jordan). You did not provide any proof for the second part.

>>2072926
I've made this point before, they'll use the playbook they used in the 1960s during the civil rights movement, merely replace blacks with Muslims. With such a fractured, multi-cultural society any attempts at ethnocentrism or nationalism will fail, which makes the environment in these nations safe for Jews. And their religion? Consumerism, Secularism, these will render Islam impotent the same way they have Christianity.

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>>2072941
>with such a fractured, multi-cultural society any attempts at ethnocentrism or nationalism will fail, which makes the environment in these nations safe for Jews

And to do this, they invite in hordes of the people that are supposed to hate them and want to exterminate them. Makes perfect sense.

...wait.

>>2072937
>an exact timeline for the past events in the Middle East planned 5 years before the war enacted by the same people who wrote it, the same people who occupied the Bush Administration isn't enough evidence

I guess its just a string of coincidences.

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>>2072952
>Consumerism, Secularism, these will render Islam impotent the same way they have Christianity.

Is it ADD?

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>>2072941

>Muslims
>Reformation

Wew. Lad. You must have some good drugs. Pass it please.

>>2072972
Oh, you're the Turk who posts the Eternal Anglo memes.

What a waste of my time.

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>>2072978

Nah. I was just picking a image at random, but you know fuck it.

Really...

If Jews are responsible for the reformation of Muslims into lazy consumerists and they aren't behading people and forcing women to wear trash bags, then I'm all for it.

But really, I don't think that will work.

Have you really seen Europe these days?

>>2072960
Why won't they start implementing these ideas among the Muslims right now then? What's even the point of replacing docile liberal Europeans with angry conservative Muslims?
Your "theory" is so ridiculous I'm sure you are just a shitposter.

Fuck, a lot if modern young Muslims are more radical than their parents so the ideas of secular consummerism obviously don't work on them. Are the Jews just suicidal?

>>2072960
Because think about it for a moment: why the fuck aren't they doing that in Islamic countries first? Why are they bringing them to Europe first, destablizing it in the process, if their goal is to make Europe "safe" for Jews? It makes no fucking sense.

>>2073005
No, intelligent. Firstly look at America, Muslims here generally become Americanized and care more about money than anything. We've had mote school shooting than Islamic terror attacks. It takes time, but it will happen.

Secondly, it does scare the Jews into emigrating to Israel- exactly what the Israeli government wants.
How can you call my hypothesis ridiculous? What should we believe, that Western countries are truly suicidally altruistic?
>>2072991
You're just exchanging one evil for another, they'll just turn into copies of Ali G, mindless consumers, following gangsta culture, still obnoxious but not on jihad levels.

>>2072953
Yes, and? Is this proof of Israeli evil or something? You do know Syria and Iraq were Israel's biggest enemies and had been since 1948, right? Why the fuck WOULDN'T they make geopolitical plans to deal with them?

>>2073043
> You do know Syria and Iraq were Israel's biggest enemies and had been since 1948, right? Why the fuck WOULDN'T they make geopolitical plans to deal with them?

Sooo, you agree?

>>2073040

>Americanized Muslims

You mean those that shoot up their workplace and nightclubs?

Seriously, have you been to Deerborne, Michigan there? They literally have Sharia law unofficially.

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>>2073055
You still haven't provided anything but a "hypothesis" for why they're helping refugees. And when the choice is between "helping refugees because they were also refugees in living memory" and "they're trying to undermine European culture to make it safer for Jews by inviting in the people who are supposed to hate Jews out of revenge for the Holocaust", one makes sense and the other is batshit insane.

>>2073055

Not him, but the existence of Israeli plans to fuck with Syria doesn't prove that they have plans to fill Europe with refugees.

Not to mention that this is a paper that was rejected by Netanyahu, which your own wiki article mentions, as well as many of its ideas, such as occupying the Palestinian areas, or installing Jordanian leaders in Iraq, or driving a wedge between Hezbollah and Iran, never happened.

>>2073040
Why should I look at America if I can see what's happening in Europe? Are you stupid? Look at France. There are more Muslims there than in the USA why aren't they becoming more Americanized?

And American Muslim population is younger than French Muslims. It has nothing to do with time.

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>>2073078
Its a hypothesis, I admit. Do you have a better one?

Jewish NATO General Wesley Clark stated that there would be no ethnocentric monolithic in modern Europe, so there is that.
I forgot I had this compiled, pic related.
>>2073081
Netanyahu rejected PARTS of it, and obviously plans can't remain rigid but need to be flexible and adaptive. Likewise some parts fit- instead of a wedge between Hezbollah and Iran Shia and Sunni relations have been exasperated over the Syrian war, prior to it Hezbollah had high approval ratings among both Shia and Sunni Muslims partly because their successes in Lebanon.

>>2073132
>Its a hypothesis, I admit. Do you have a better one?

Yes.

THEY'RE HELPING THE REFUGEES BECAUSE THEY WERE REFUGEES THEMSELVES IN LIVING MEMORY.

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>>2072467
would you like to talk about history maybe?

>>2073145
Then why don't they accept them into Israel?

>>2073152
Because they're not Israeli? Do you think every Jew is a secret Israeli agent or something?

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>>2073157
do you not?

>>2073157
>Just over 1 million Jews in Europe totally ok with helping the refugees enter Europe
>Almost 7 million Jews in Israel, a nation RIGHT NEXT TO SYRIA, and no Syrian refugees are accepted

Firing my neurons m8

>>2073177
It's almost as if Jew does not automatically equal Israeli!

>>2073189
Why not? Because their house is over here instead of over there?

German Jews made up a small fraction of Jews killed in the holocaust, and German Jews who stayed in Germany from the 1933-39 period a smaller fraction still.

If you fled to the Netherlands (ala Anne Frank) or Poland or a bunch of other European countries, you'd just wind up in an expansionist Germany which treated Jews even worse all over again a few years later.

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>>2073177

Well if this great Jewish conspiracies can finally reform Islam so they stop shooting up our nightclubs, driving vehicles into crowds of people, and flying planes into our buildings I am all for it.

>>2073219
OR we could cut off Israel, expel the Jews, expel the Muslims, and stop wasting trillions on Middle Eastern Wars while preserving Europe's culture.

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>>2073228
>expel the Jews
Oh you. Go back to /pol/.

>>2070260
You don't understand OP. Stuff like this happens to the jews all the time, they just didn't realize THIS time they were actually gonna get fucked really bad. My point is, the Jews were treated like shit everywhere, if they up and moved every time someone threatened them they wouldn't be in Europe in the first place

>>2073228
What a realistic and practical proposal that would definitely have no negative consequences at all. Really got my neurons firin'

>>2073232
But why shouldnt we?

>>2072234
>Germany has some pretty good scientists
>even WITHOUT the Jews
as an american, thats pretty impressive to me
kek

>>2073241
>good scientists
>with one of the defining laws of physics banned

>>2070260
They literally did. Over half of German Jews emigrated from Germany during the pre-war years of the Nazi dictatorship (304,000 out of 522,000)

>>2073232
Jesus Christ I just detailed Jewish subversion of the US government for Israeli interests for the last 20 posts.

>>2073243
He referred to their present day image and haphazardly made a joke, pretty sure Germans know about relativity now...

>>2073259
>thinking Israel needs to subvert the US Government to accomplish that

Iraq and Syria weren't exactly friendly to the US either, anon. The US has been at odds with both since like 1958 when the Hashemite Kingdom of Iraq was overthrown.

>>2073259

No, you brought up a largely rejected plan to deal with Israel's immediate neighbors, which made for policy arguments that Israel has not in fact carried out, and used that to "prove" that Israel subverts U.S. and European governmental decisions.


I suspect that you are rather inbred.

>>2072524
>spout nothing but nonsensical bullshit on a board not dedicated to it

>"you didn't refute my arguments"

>>2070260
Only 1 in 3 german jews died during WW2. This was because even though they were jews they were still technically german citizens granting them some legal protection. Germany was actually one of the better places to be for a jew during WW2 in europe.

>>2071340
This.

>>2072299
>That Kristallnacht was surprisingly well organized for a "spontaneous" retribution doesn't throw up any flags for you, does it.

What exactly is hard about throwing rocks into the windows of jewish owned shops? Plenty of other riots throughout history have been just as spontaneous and resulted in similar levels of damages. Rioting is not hard, and kristallnacht was just a government sanctioned riot.

>Well then, Germans burned down France, so I say we go and burn down all the German-owned business in the world.

But that is exactly what France did during WW2. I fail to see your point?

>>2073272
>Iraq and Syria weren't exactly friendly to the US either, anon. The US has been at odds with both since like 1958 when the Hashemite Kingdom of Iraq was overthrown.

We supplied Saddam with support and weapons and only "turned" on him when he attempted to annex Kuwait.
>>2073275
>largely rejected
>ignoring my point the Israelis used the US as a proxy

Not as inbred as an Ashkenazi.

>>2072275
>when the majority of German jews were conservative, as opposed to the Eastern European jews who are primarily liberal and socialist

That is literally the exact opposite of how things were. Nice try though.

>>2073326
>We supplied Saddam with support and weapons and only "turned" on him when he attempted to annex Kuwait.
Horseshit. We did that when he got into a war with Iran, but that ignores the period from 1958 to 1979 that preceded it. Saddam, like all of the Ba'athists were Soviet-aligned and acted against American and British interests in the region.

>>2073340
>Soviet aligned

Only because LBJ backed Israel

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>>2073370
>implying

You know nothing about the Middle East beyond whatever garbage /pol/ force-fed you. Iraq was originally a British ally/puppet. They were even part of a US-backed alliance with Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, and the UK. The king was seen as a reliable Western ally, and the coup that overthrew him was directly inspired by General Nasser's in Egypt; also a Soviet aligned socialist. One of the first things the new Republic of Iraq did was establish an alliance with the Soviets and the other Ba'athist governments in the region.

So, no, faggot, Iraq was not driven to the arms of the Soviets by Israel no matter how fucking much you want to blame them for literally everything. They became Soviet aligned the moment they extracted themselves from the British sphere.

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>>2073370
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14_July_Revolution

>believing the holocaust actually happened
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

Some of them were genuine patriots, even war veterans and would not believe to be betrayed in this way until the bitter end.

>>2071722
have any charts that explain how are jews simultaneously a poor underclass and a powerful behind the scenes upper class?

>>2074025
Being on /his/ and denying the holocaust. Go back to /pol/ please.

>>2073326

Yes, largely rejected. Or did you miss the part where the plan called for using JORDAN as a proxy and setting up Jordanian rulers in Iraq?

>>2074025
this

>>2072900
A lot of Jews demanded their own state. After the Holocaust, Britain was willing to give them one.

>>2070260
Why aren't the Mexicans willingly leaving the United States?

>>2072345
I bet you think judaism is a race, too.

>>2072867
>the Jews are aiding the people who actively hate them NOW and try to kill them all NOW

They sure aren't trying very hard.

>>2074515
The holocaust is a lie.

>>2074726
Only if you are retarded enough to believe in stormfag memes over evidence and historian consensus.

>>2070260
Not wealthy enough to leave.

Borders shut to them all over the world.

Foreign governments charging exorbitant rates to take them.

>>2070260
Yeah Hitler also took away their financial rights, so most Jews didn't have enough money to do anything but stay put. The other countries wouldn't take them because of a mix of antisemitism and because they didn't want a wave of refugees from Germany. Hitler fucked over the Jews pretty bad.

>>2070260
I always find it interesting how holocaust deniers always pretend that the Madagascar plan would have been some sort of peaceful and humane solution to the "Jewish question" and that it wouldn't haven been one huge concentration camp in form of an SS-run colony

>>2074875

Remember, /pol/ style Holocaust deniers think that KZs were resort spas run by the SS with swimming pools, theaters, fluffy bunnies, and god knows what else, and only had deaths because the evil allies bombed the supply roads!

>>2074515
https://youtu.be/W5JAHvsJVKM

>>2074715
Just because they continually get BTFO doesn't mean the intention isn't there.

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>>2070287
DELET THIS

>>2070287

That solution wasn't very final.

>>2072180
>The trial was planned for 1942 but never took place, primarily because the Nazis (who also sent homosexuals to the death camps) feared it would turn into a gay scandal.
Noice

>>2074836
Nothing stopped them from selling property, and just moving.
But then they moved to German occupied countries, and it was a fun day

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>>2070317
This

>>2070287
Delete this immediately.